Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread FamilyFirm
Thanks Harrison. Your thoughts give me a sense of peace and balance in the midst of my anticipation (sometimes anxiety). My limited experience has been that creating and holding the space is one of the more subtle aspects of the art. Joe * * ==

So now what.

2001-10-16 Thread FamilyFirm
911 has prompted me to look for ways to be philanthropic with my work. I have decided to volunteer economic development oriented consultation in third world nations. As a pilot project I have called upon contacts in a German foreign aid organization in Nepal. I had been told by several Nepali busi

Re: Paul's words

2001-09-27 Thread FamilyFirm
Thank you for your clear thinking and direct words Paul. You are not a lone wolf in this space. I see these things much as you do. I have an image of the people that were on the fourth plane that crashed in a field in Pennsylvania instead of into a building somewhere else. My guess is that most

Re: The Way of the Warrior

2001-09-25 Thread FamilyFirm
"Reliance on intelligence alone results in rebelliousness. Exercise of humaness alone results in weakness. Fixation on trust alone results in folly. Dependence on the strength of courage results in violence. Excessive sternness of command results in cruelty. When one has all five virtues together,

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 9/23/01 10:11:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, owe...@mindspring.com writes: << The Way of the Warrior. >> Amen, Harrison Joe Paul * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe,

Re: Dear OSLIST

2001-01-09 Thread FamilyFirm
Dear OS List, As the recent culprit in the at least one of the direct messages to another person on the list I what to concur that this is not the best media for that kind of communication. My posting in that regard was an accident. I thought I was sending a message directly to the person and sen

Re: Opening Space in Portland

2001-01-08 Thread FamilyFirm
Joelle, The URL for PSCC is www.psccoregon.org Joe * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/o

Re: Open Space Training in Toronto

2001-01-06 Thread FamilyFirm
One of the members of this group is hosting a training event in Toronto this winter. I have misplaced information about that event and would like to pass it on. Please post contact information again here. Thanks so much. Joe Paul * * == o

Opening Space in Portland

2001-01-06 Thread FamilyFirm
I am looking for a seasoned OS practitioner in Portland, Oregon. Is anyone on this list serve a Portlander or know of a practitioner who is? The gig is to do a teaser 2 hour OS that is meant to lead up to a 2 day event within a few of months Thanks for the help Joe Paul * * ==

Re: Seeking Input/Advice/Learning from Your Experience

2000-12-07 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 12/7/00 5:14:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, bjpet...@amug.org writes: << There are definitely other things I see that need to be addressed in this situation before deciding that open space would be appropriate. >> BJ, I work exclusively with family businesses and their advisors.

Re: Seeking counsel on how to introduce OS in a very short time

2000-02-15 Thread FamilyFirm
Susan, Since this is a educational/marketing event you have set up, you might just take them through the first couple of hours of an OS event (circle talk, market place, etc) using the sign up wall as if it were going to actually be a three day event. (You would need to give as much attention to t

Re: Assistance with first OS meeting

2000-02-10 Thread FamilyFirm
Very nicely done website Kerry Joe

Re: Assistance with first OS meeting

2000-02-10 Thread FamilyFirm
Nancie, Once upon a time I sold the concept of hiring Harrison Owen to facilitate the annual conference of my own professional association in OS. The Board of Directors (made up of Investment Bankers, Lawyers, CPA's, & Management Consultants) who made the decision found it helpful to be able to

Re: Knowledge Management

1999-10-05 Thread FamilyFirm
I greatly appreciate the recetn very insightful postings on knowledge management issues. There have also been several links that will be of great interest to any drawn to this subject. To those links I would add http://www.outsights.com/systems/kmgmt/kmgmt.htm There is a very clear discussion of s

Re: Knowledge Management

1999-10-03 Thread FamilyFirm
Brigit and David, You seem concerned that the process of knowledge management is some kind of spiritual rip off. I am not suggesting that OST might be used to capture the essential essence of people and leave them less than they were, or their system less that it was. The truth is that knowledge

Knowledge Management

1999-09-30 Thread FamilyFirm
I am expanding my consulting practice into the area of "Knowledge Management". I am especially interested in the transfer of knowledge and knowledge systems during the succession process (transfer of leadership, ownership, management between generations in family owned businesses). Some of my cli

Re: OS and Personality Type?

1999-04-30 Thread FamilyFirm
Here is a response from a strong "J" type (exec director of an professional association) when I ask how the recent OS even went. "The open space design seemed to go very well. At times, I wondered about the value, but the participants loved it. That's what's important. There are things division

Re: OS and Personality Type?

1999-04-29 Thread FamilyFirm
Pete, Your question stimulates me to suggest William Bridges' book, "The Character of Organizations". He has formulated a typology based on Meyers Briggs concepts and identified 16 organizational types that correspond to the 16 individual types. In addition to the question of whether OS resonates

Re: Open Space facilitators

1999-03-01 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 3/1/99 12:14:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, stillin...@aol.com writes: << Joe, I'm just saying that I think I'm hearing that OS is about trusting the process which constantly acknowledges the inherent wisdom of the group and the individuals. And that's very different from the w

Re: Open Space facilitators

1999-02-25 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 2/25/99 12:07:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, ralp...@earthlink.net writes: > "intuitive and idiosyncratic judgement on the spur of the moment." I thought I read: "One of those times, I did sense that I had relatively little credibility on the topic in question, so I might as wel

Re: Open Space facilitators

1999-02-25 Thread FamilyFirm
This question of having a dual relationship as an OS facilitator seems an issue of professional responsibility that is analogous to the issue of therapists having dual relationships with their clients, which is strickly and unequivocally prohibited by all behavioral science licensing boards that I

Re: A case for training

1999-01-26 Thread FamilyFirm
It sounds like you have created a wonderful learning environment for your group of 8 facilitators. When I did my first two Open Space events I engaged a consultant to coach me through them. But I didn't think to have here come to the event itself to coach me in the midst of the experience. That

Re: Autopoiesis

1999-01-21 Thread FamilyFirm
Earlier references to self-orgaizing systems drew me to something I read a while ago that is relevant to OS. It is from "A Simpler Way" by Margaret Wheatly (page 46-47) "Life wants to happen. It calls itself into existence. Out of all information and all possibilities, an entity comes into form.

Re: Re[2]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 1/21/99 9:05:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, dferr...@placer.ca.gov writes: << One of the things that caught my attention most in the whole Open Space meme is that self-organizing systems don't need a facilitator to organize them. >> But they often need someone to assume the respo

Re: continuity and change

1998-10-30 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 98-10-29 12:10:44 EST, you write: << The movement between chaos and order. The movement between change and continutity?? >> Your question causes me to think about what is doing the moving. It also leads me to speculate that it is only our version of consciousness that makes th

Re: OS in low trust environments

1998-10-28 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 10/27/98 4:39:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, birg...@worldchat.com writes: << I would like to understand your offering of "between the forces of continuity and forces of change". I see continuity and change as similar to each other, part of the same force. I would love to hear

Re: OS in low trust environments

1998-10-28 Thread FamilyFirm
Sounds really good to me Karen. Brigitt you asked me to say more about continuity and change. (that phrase is very much with me because I put on a confernce that Harrison Owen facilitated for us called Continuity and Change: Expanding the Possibilties. It was a huge success and as the co-chair of

Re: OS in low trust environments

1998-10-27 Thread FamilyFirm
Also Bert, I speculate from your nickname that the A in AV stands for Albert. However there is a long line of AV Elliotts (Amerigo Vespucci) in one branch of my family and I am wondering if you might be a long lost cousin? If you are or have intrest in Elliotts with two l's and t's contact me at f

Re: OS in low trust environments

1998-10-27 Thread FamilyFirm
Bert, My experience is that all living systems live in a dynamic tension between the forces of continuity and the forces of change. It is predictable that movement in one direction creates a balancing response in another. The important thing is that people trust each other enough (or at least th

Re: Invitation, with Story

1998-10-27 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 10/26/98 4:17:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, ldek...@primenet.com writes: << issues, ideas or suggestions >> for web site Make it a 3-D environment Joe

Re: Open Space in Cyber Space

1998-06-22 Thread FamilyFirm
I would greatly appreciate any words of wisdom any of you may have in combining Open Space and CyberSpace. I am co-chair of an international conference for an organization. It is our annual conference and the association's members are advisors and consultants from many disciplines who serve famil

Re: Connective Tissue

1998-06-17 Thread FamilyFirm
Peg, I think that the group I am part of ( http://www.aspenfamilybusiness.com/";> http://www.aspenfamilybusiness.com ) as a self organizing system. The group is 10 years old, there are 5 of us in the group, there is no heirarchy, we all live in different parts of the country, and we only meet fa

Re: "purity"

1998-04-21 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 98-04-21 10:55:49 EDT, you write: << If people are turning away from Open Space because they saw what they were told was Open Space and were turned off by it, that is a problem. However, since "Open Space" and "OST" are not trademarks, there's little that can be done to preve

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-21 Thread FamilyFirm
Birgitt, Without permutations, we would still be one celled organisms hanging out in a hot spring somewhere. It seems to me that evolution needs to have lots of experiments that don't work. Just as much so in the evolution of mind, and social systems as in biology. There is a bigger Open Space w