Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-06 Thread Judi Richardson
.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Hi Mike, I think you had it right the first time. Becoming centered and remaining at peace amidst huge turmoil does not require that you lose your humanity, though it probably does mean you transcend your current conc

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2003-11-06 Thread Alan Stewart
Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)- Original Message - From: florian fischer To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Am 04.11.2003 19:12 Uhr schrieb "Judi Richardson" unter : ... t

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-06 Thread Julie Smith
erv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:23 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Thanks Harrison You have just blown my idea of Nirvana. I've always thought there must be a place where I can be centre

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-05 Thread Judi Richardson
434-6695 fax (902) 435-1085 Reap the Rewards! -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Joelle Lyons Everett Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:12 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control In a message dated 11/3/0

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-05 Thread florian fischer
Am 04.11.2003 19:12 Uhr schrieb "Judi Richardson" unter : > ... to see that my buttons can only be pushed if I have them in the first > place. > > You push my button > I have a button pushed > In my interaction with you, in our difference, I choose to have a button > pushed > I see I have a

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-05 Thread Leah Kininmonth
MessageHi Judi: I found these words of yours excellent: "You push my button I have a button pushed In my interaction with you, in our difference, I choose to have a button pushed I see I have a button to push I pushed my button in the interaction Noticing you, in your difference, liberates me!" I

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-05 Thread Mike Copeland
: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:19 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Beautiful words everyone You have all brought me to the guts of my initial enquiry: Finding that balance come

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-04 Thread lebelland
e Copeland To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Beautiful words everyone You have all brought me to the guts of my initial enquiry: how does one find the balance between fear/control and letting go/

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-04 Thread Judi Richardson
! -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:19 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Beautiful words everyone You have all brought me to the guts of my

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-04 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Judi! Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/os

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Copeland
rld's. That's all Mike Copeland -Original Message- From: Peggy Holman [mailto:pe...@opencirclecompany.com] Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2003 9:35 a.m. To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Fw: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Robyn -- lovely image! This conversation reminds

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-04 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 11/3/03 2:36:00 PM, florianfisc...@ff-wey.com writes: << it´s my real experience in planning and organizing change that we cannot imagine something which isn´t already on the move, we cannot wish something, wich isn´t already on the move we cannot intend something which isn´t

Fear and control

2003-11-03 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Florian-- Excellent way with words you have, my friend! :-Doug. * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@l

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-03 Thread florian fischer
Am 29.10.2003 23:08 Uhr schrieb "Fr Brian S Bainbridge" unter : .. > One "wit" writes that there are three phases to change The third stage - wonder of wonders - involves> applying the very change which was proscribed - sometimes out of> desperation because . > Some reflection from a v

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-03 Thread Robyn
RE: If you close those two hands - you end up with two fists. Definitely not what we want. ~ (delighted laughter!) I pictured the closing of two open hands, like an almond. The result, according to a dear and wise women that I know, is the mandorla, which has become a very powerful symbol for me

Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical)

2003-11-03 Thread Harrison Owen
ehalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:19 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) Beautiful words everyone You have all brought me to the guts of my initial enquiry: Finding that balance comes back to being a co-creator with spirit f

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2003-11-03 Thread Peggy Holman
om because the space is too open. Peggy ----- Original Message - From: "Robyn" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:22 AM Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing lyrical) > RE: > If you close those two hands - you end up with two fists. Definitely not > what we want. &

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-03 Thread Harrison Owen
want. And if you turn the hands upside down you loose the whole enchilada. Harrison -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Meg Salter Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:42 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-02 Thread Meg Salter
sibility THis could bea nifty little list. Anyone want to continue? Meg Salter MegaSpace Consulting (416) 486-6660 m...@megsalter.com - Original Message - From: "Robyn" To: Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Fear and control > Hi > > RE: >

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-02 Thread Robyn
Hi RE: Beautiful the story of the 'Tibetan' coin. I have learned, quite some time ago, to do the same mental imaging with just plain white sand. What I like though about 'your' coin is that it has a face which can look up to the sky! ~ What I like about sand is that it can still slip through you

Re: Fear and control

2003-11-01 Thread Vliex, Carla (cvl)
Chris a.o. Beautiful the story of the 'tibetian' coin. I have learned,quite some time ago, to do the same mental imgaging with just plain white sand. What I like though about 'your' coin is that it has a face which can look up to the sky! from rainy and cloudy Holland Carla * *

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-30 Thread Aart Groothuis
essage- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:06 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Fear and control G'day Chris With the time differences I seem to get your profound e-mails first thing in the mornin

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-30 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
Dear Mike - and Chris, of course Nice context of topics, I reckon : fear and control. I have a couple of things to add. 1. Maybe I haven't yet gotten to the stage of real "letting-go" for my own part. I suspect we have always to be working at that, and it's a continuing

Re: fear and control

2003-10-30 Thread Jim Metcalf
Good morning to all from West Michigan! Please forgive me if I've overlooked a part of this discussion. It seems that those interested in control over others ought to take a good look at three questions and a proposition: Q1) Has it worked well, i.e. up to your hopes and dreams for your fami

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-29 Thread Jack Ricchiuto
u] On Behalf Of Joelle Lyons Everett Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:33 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control In a message dated 10/29/03 3:54:18 PM, bria...@mira.net writes: << Maybe I haven't yet gotten to the stage of real "letting-go" for

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-29 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 10/29/03 3:54:18 PM, bria...@mira.net writes: << Maybe I haven't yet gotten to the stage of real "letting-go" for my own part. I suspect we have always to be working at that, and it's a continuing challenge. BUT the biggest delicacy seems to me - both in myself and in organiza

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-29 Thread Ilse Debler
between the lines. I can learn a lot from ALL your replies. Not just about the subject but about you as people as well. Ilse - Original Message - From: Julie Smith To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Fear and control

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-29 Thread Mike Copeland
Thanks Chris You are a wise man and this is precisely what I was hinting at. I struggle with fear and control in my life and hence my irkdness when I encounter it in others: spot it you got it sort of stuff. While I would like to say I'm beyond fear and control I am still having a

Fear and control

2003-10-29 Thread Mike Copeland
love and trust instead of fear and control? No matter what I come across these days it seems when I hit closed space, power, control and ultimately fear are lurking somewhere in the background. A penny for y,alls thoughts Mike Copeland -Original Message- From: Chris Corrigan [mailt

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-28 Thread Julie Smith
Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:49 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Fear and control Thanks Chris You are a wise man and this is precisely what I was hinting at. I strugg

Re: Fear and control

2003-10-28 Thread Chris Corrigan
For me every one is different. I keep a log of them, some of which I turn into stories which I share here, others of which just sit in my journal as statistics with the little gem that makes it unique noted. Fear and control dance in a positive feedback loop. The more you have of one, the more