Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-01 Thread Barry Owen
Just some random thoughts because I was a bit unsettled . . . This is probably "nothing" but then . . . I have heard several stories of Open Space events having to move from one physical space to another - successfully . . . Can this be done in virtual space? I guess the "standard response from

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-01 Thread kenoli Oleari
Barry -- I'm confused by your note. It would help me if you could be a bit more direct. I've been trying to read through your note to fully understand what you are saying. Are you questioning the relevance of the dialog that has been going on? Are you suggesting setting up another dialog? Anot

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-01 Thread florian fischer
kenoli Oleari schrieb: > Barry -- I'm confused by your note. It would help me if you could be > a bit more direct. I've been trying to read through your note to > fully understand what you are saying. Are you questioning the > relevance of the dialog that has been going on? Are you suggesting

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-01 Thread Barry Owen
Hi Kenoli, You said: "Are you questioning the relevance of the dialog that has been going on?" Not at all. "Are you suggesting setting up another dialog? Another listserv? Is there another OS listserv happening that I don't know about?" NO - NO - Not that I know of "Are you referring to the

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-02 Thread Jeff Aitken
Barry, thanks for your clarifying words. The crisis brings up questions about this list that we have not asked before. We have never in my memory had sustained dialogue about anything other than OST, except maybe God and poetry. ;-) I think we are all invited to play two roles here: facilitator

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-02 Thread Toni Petrinovich
. It is such a grand journey, is it not? Toni Petrinovich - Original Message - From: "Jeff Aitken" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . . > Barry, thanks for your clarifying words. > > The crisis brings

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-04 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 18:29 02-10-2001, Jeff Aitken wrote: The crisis brings up questions about this list that we have not asked before. We have never in my memory had sustained dialogue about anything other than OST, except maybe God and poetry. ;-) You are right in what concerns "sustained dialogue", Jeff. B

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-04 Thread Harrison Owen
At 10:49 AM 10/4/01 +0100, Artur wrote: In what concerns me, even if my "knowing" of OST has not changed, I tend to think that some of my ideas about it have been slightly "readjusted" this days. If we consider, as I do, that Harrison's Guide, and some of his other books, are the genuine OST, may

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-04 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 12:49 04-10-2001, Harrison Owen wrote: Artur -- and anybody else -- I think it is always import to remember (at least for me) that OST was the product of two Martinis, born out of frustration by way of a joke. That it is powerful, I cannot deny. And I confess to a certain pride of discovery -

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-04 Thread Toni Petrinovich
Thank you, Harrison, for the conceptual integrity that is included in this message. You speak to my heart. Toni Petrinovich - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 AM Subject: Re: Moving Open Space

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-04 Thread Harrison Owen
At 02:21 PM 10/4/01 +0100, Artur wrote: Are the pinciples the main reason why OST works (I mean, are they real "principles") as it it stated in the chapter on OST of Senge's "The Dance of Change" (to mention only that)? Or the foundation of OST is elsewhere? Maybe the Circle, the Boletim Board,

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-05 Thread Ingrid Olausson
citerar "Artur F. Silva" : > At 18:29 02-10-2001, Jeff Aitken wrote: > > >The crisis brings up questions about this list that we have not asked > >before. We have never in my memory had sustained dialogue about anything > >other than OST, except maybe God and poetry. ;-) > > You are right in wha

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-05 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 23:18 04-10-2001, Harrison Owen wrote: It is certainly quite possible to Open Space and never mention either the 4 Principles or The Two Footed Law -- and it will work quite well. The reason, I think, is that both are simply an acknowledgment of what was going to happen anyhow. Thus, the Prin

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-05 Thread Erich Kolenaty
helps to be aware of them. Have a nice weekend Artur, and I am curious of what comes up next. All the best from lovely Vienna Erich - Original Message - From: Artur F. Silva To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Moving

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 10/4/01 2:52:32 AM, artsi...@mail.eunet.pt writes: << Finally in my opinion it is important to maintain only one list for the OS dialogue, and not different ones for different flavors, so that all experience is shared among all the OS community, and it will not be replaced by ma

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Artur, Harrison, Erich and others-- I'm enjoying this conversation. I agree that the "Law of Two Feet" is most important--even though people may exercise that law in other meetings, either by leaving a meeting, or being late, or by being physically but not emotionally or spiritually present. But

Re: Moving Open Space without closing it . . .

2001-10-09 Thread Artur F. Silva
Hello Erich and all: I am answering to your post to clarify to you and other lists members one or two small things. At 17:25 05-10-2001, Erich Kolenaty wrote: (...) where the hell do you take the time and the energy from to write this all? As the majority of the "independent consultants" I h