OST with children...

2002-09-30 Thread Winston Kinch
I would appreciate to be reminded (senior moments increase in frequency) of Open Space events involving children. I recall (I think) Soweto, and I am (kinda) sure Chris has mentioned one or more Winston

Re: OST with children...

2002-09-30 Thread Chris Corrigan
://www.chriscorrigan.com ch...@chriscorrigan.com -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Winston Kinch Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:26 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: OST with children... I would appreciate to be reminded (senior

Re: OST with children...

2002-09-30 Thread Julie Smith
listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Corrigan Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:51 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: OST with children... Hi Winston, et al.: I did write about how quickly my (then) three year old daughter took to OST in a story which you can read a

Re: OST with children...

2002-09-30 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Winston-- Chris Weaver is working regularly with children through a 4-H program which often uses Open Space. Romy has worked with youth in Ireland. I know there are more. . . Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu --

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-01 Thread Winston Kinch
Thanks to Joelle and all for the feedback. The connections are re-wired. Winston * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisest

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-04 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
- From: "Julie Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: Re: OST with children... > Hi Winston, > > I'm not sure how you define "children." I've been playing in open > space with middle school and high school students for almost six

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-04 Thread Toni Petrinovich
4, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: OST with children... > Hi All, > > sorry for sharing ( I hope it is not very big for you ... and an > attachment... ), > as I got my collection of pictures of OS (2 hours at 8-10 o'clock in the > evening... so it is a little bit dark)...on Bai

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-04 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Elena, for the pictures from Ohlkun Island. Where on the island were you? Your pictures bring back memories for me. Paul is going to print the pictures and share them with his Rotary Club here in Shelton. Joelle * * == osl...@lists

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-05 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
f us > > Blessings, > Toni Sar'h > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Elena A. Marchuk" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:05 AM > Subject: Re: OST with children... > > > > Hi All, > > > > sorry for sharing ( I hope

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-05 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
shes elena - Original Message - From: "Joelle Lyons Everett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: Re: OST with children... > Thanks, Elena, for the pictures from Ohlkun Island. Where on the island were > you? Your pictures bring back memories for me. > >

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-04 Thread Toni Petrinovich
have been working with different ideas to assist children in being able to speak and be heard. Your story is so uplifting. Much love and many blessings, Toni Sar'h - Original Message - From: "Elena A. Marchuk" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Re: OST

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-05 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Lena-- I think if I compare your picture with mine, I can see about where you were. The important thing is, you are creating the future of Russia by bringing new ways of working to the children and youth. Thanks, Joelle * * == osl...@list

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-05 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
Hi Toni, here some more picture which I found on the www.rotaract.irkutsk.ru - they have a better picture then me.. best wishes elena - Original Message - From: "Toni Petrinovich" To: Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: Re: OST with children... > Elena,

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-04 Thread Toni Petrinovich
Thank you much - so much coming together - it is SO GOOD! - Original Message - From: "Elena A. Marchuk" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: Re: OST with children... > Hi Toni, > here some more picture which I found on the www.rotaract.irkutsk.ru - they

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-07 Thread Chris Weaver
Dear Elena, Your photographs are very inspirational to me -- the faces of the young people, the light, the sand, the great lake. I will print them to share with the youth who gather here at our camp in the mountains. They will smile to see reflections of their own faces from half a world away.

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-07 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
ot; place, near Kemerovo, not so many exhotic, but I hope - it will be a new kind of meeting for children who never attend OS. best wishes and good luck elena hello to North Carolina! - Original Message - From: "Chris Weaver" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:28 PM Subje

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-08 Thread Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange
Hi Winston an you other good folks exploring OST with children Within the last 2 months I have hosted 3 OST involving children - which not just worked well but the intergenerational energies came into real play. This is a way to go. First was a summer party in my garden with 19 grown

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-08 Thread Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange
Hi Winston an you other good folks exploring OST with children Within the last 2 months I have hosted 3 OST involving children - which not just worked well but the intergenerational energies came into real play. This is a way to go. First was a summer party in my garden with 19 grown

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-08 Thread Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange
Hi Winston an you other good folks exploring OST with children Within the last 2 months I have hosted 3 OST involving children - which not just worked well but the intergenerational energies came into real play. This is a way to go. First was a summer party in my garden with 19 grown

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-08 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
e Text--- From: Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:16:33 +0200 Re: OST with children... Hi Winston an you other good folks exploring OST with children Within the last 2 months I have hosted 3 OST involving children - which not just worked well but the intergenerational en

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-09 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
Re: OST with children...Hi Tova, thank you for sharing with us. I love your pictures and your practice and ideas. best wishes elena - Original Message - From: Toke Paludan Mшller - InterChange To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:16 PM

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-09 Thread Averbuch
Re: OST with children...elena, the sharing and the pictures reflect a wonder that seems to have taken place!...but the thanks are for Toke (clove to my name but not me), so thank you very Elena and thank you very much Toke warm regards Tova -Original Message- From: OSLIST

Re: OST with children...

2002-10-09 Thread Elena A. Marchuk
Re: OST with children...OK, OK, everybody! best wishes elena - Original Message - From: Averbuch To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: OST with children... elena, the sharing and the pictures reflect a wonder that

Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-27 Thread Chris Corrigan
Colleagues: Memories of buying a goat farm and retiring have flown from my mind. I opened space today for our third of three public legal education workshops with the Aboriginal community in Vancouver today. The workshop was targetted at Aboriginal parents, advocates and service delivery organiz

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-27 Thread Artur F. Silva
Hello Chris: At 00:03 27-01-2001 -0800, Chris Corrigan wrote: (...) and those that were bigger questions, transcendant, even ("Why does our community accept the apprehension of our children?") I have noticed this second type of topic in many of the OST events i have done. In some ways these t

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-27 Thread Harrison Owen
At 12:03 AM 1/27/01 -0800, Chris wrote: For me, this is hugely profound in its implications, because what it says is that community development is most effective when one simply opens space for the community to develop. It doesn't require elaborate planning strategies and particpatory initiativ

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-28 Thread Nino Novak
Hello, somehow I addressed my question (see below) directly to Harrison - and not to the list, sorry. Therefore I bring it up now adding Harrison's answer below it. Nino -- my question At 10:04 1/27/01 +5000 Harrison Owen wrote about the role of the facilita

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-28 Thread Nino Novak
Dear Harrison and list, At 08:46 1/28/01 -0500 Harrison Owen wrote, > Interesting. Holding Space (keeping the space open) is not a totally > passive activity, although it may certainly look that way. and later, > [...] Which is to say that each participating individual is > receiving tons of su

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-29 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 18:57 28-01-2001 +0100, Nino Novak wrote: (Seems to me like the four principles and the law are just descriptions of _your_ _own_ attitude towards the participating people) A really interesting idea, Nino. Seeing the 4 principles as "descriptions of the facilitator's attitudes towards parti

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-29 Thread Nino Novak
Dear Artur, allow me to make just a few remarks, you wrote: > If I would have to > define the "best predictor" of good facilitation skills (as of good > parenthood, good teaching, even good people ) I would say > "congruity" and would add "as it is tacitly recognized by others". (I'd like to re

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-30 Thread Nino Novak
(just to add what I've forgotten) > OST gives the spiritual backing for metanoia. What still has to be done > is to bring all the concrete knowledge and skills about. ... and, certainly, to perform the concrete actions! i.e. to move body AND soul ;-) Nino * *

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-29 Thread Doersam, Laurel
I couldn't resist jumping in to this discussion! I think, if the appropriate stimulus shows up, the change happens faster than one can describe it. If you want to change something, because you _think_ the new way will do it better - it might appear difficult indeed. But what if the desired change

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-29 Thread Doersam, Laurel
e- From: Doersam, Laurel [mailto:laurel.doer...@caphealth.org] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 04:21 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Part three OST with children and families I couldn't resist jumping in to this discussion! >I think, if the appropriate stimulus shows u

Re: Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-30 Thread Artur F. Silva
Hello Nino : some comments on some of your remarks. At 23:29 29-01-2001 +0100, Nino Novak wrote: > >. Some consequences: > > > >1) It is important to recognise that there is a tacit dimension in all > >knowledge, including scientific knowledge. This allows us to understand > >why it is so diff

Another discussion...(was: Part three OST with children and families)

2001-01-28 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 10:04 27-01-2001 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote (in the end): But that might be food for another discussion. Why not? I would like to profit from your suggestion to ask for the claification of some points. Chris, I agree. And it is also a blinding flash of the obvious. In this case, the commu

facilitating metanoia? (formerly "Part three OST with children and families")

2001-01-30 Thread Chris Weaver
Dear Laurel and OSLIST, First, I recommend a wonderful interview with Meg Wheatley and Peter Senge in this month's issue of Shambhala Sun Magazine. I'll refer to it below. There's a short excerpt at http://www.shambhalasun.com/ Laurel, thank you for your addition to this wonderful discussion. T

Re: facilitating metanoia? (formerly"Part three OST with children and families")

2001-01-29 Thread David C. Rupley, Jr., MD(H)
facilitating metanoia? (formerly "Part three OST with children and families")A few thoughts . . . Laurel, thank you for your addition to this wonderful discussion. The firewalking story is a great example of how instantaneous and comprehensive these metanoias can be. Laurel, Great

Re: facilitating metanoia? (formerly"Part three OST with children and families")

2001-01-30 Thread Doersam, Laurel
: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: facilitating metanoia? (formerly"Part three OST with children and families") A few thoughts . . . Laurel, thank you for your addition to this wonderful discussion. The firewalking story is a great example of how instantaneous and comprehensive these m

Re: healing and witnessing (has been:Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-28 Thread Florian Fischer
Harrison Owen schrieb: > Healing and well functioning self-organization add up to the same > thing. > Or put a different way, a self-organizing system is always in the > process of healing itself. . > As facilitators (or whatever it is that we call ourselves) > we are only and ultimat

Re: healing and witnessing (has been:Part three OST with children and families

2001-01-29 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 21:51 28-01-2001 +0100, Florian Fischer wrote: > let me quote again the austrian architect friedrich kiesler > "..any problem, big or little > requires a great humility - > to let it tell you what it wants. > rather than your telling the problem > how it should be resolved. > it will deve