In a message dated 5/4/01 1:27:16 AM, gb...@beckground.hu writes:
<< The "individual's relationship to the unknown" is a bit intangible for me,
however I agree with you, that it is important.
>>
I was thinking about the challenge of selling the idea of Open Space to
potential clients who want to
Joelle Lyons Everett schrieb:
> ... I believe that the key factor may be the individual's relationship
> to the unknown, whatever position he or she may hold in the organization.
i like your idea, joelle,
and i think that relationship to the unknown is growing and is oscillating
during life,
whi
Joelle,
You are right, that the types I explained are not absolute, but I found
them very useful, when thinking in organizations and people in the
organizations.
The position and profession of the managers concerned help me to have some
hints about how to handle them.
The "individual's relationshi
Gyuri--
I believe in the truth of your hypothesis, but I think the personal type of
the individual is much more important in this than the job they hold. It is
true that producers are drawn to manufacturing, but some manufacturing
managers are creative risk takers. And some people in marketing o
Let me have an other angle to see this issue.
I think it would worth to collect our experience on, who will buy the OS?
Here is my contribution. There is a classification of managers by Ichak
Adizes, who talks about 4 types of managers. Of course this 4 types are not
appearing clearly, but in a mi
In a message dated 5/1/01 5:35:04 AM, owe...@mindspring.com writes:
<< Actually I really like "numbers guys" along with engineers and other
practical sorts. they understand (or at least the best of them) about
getting on with the business -- which definitely appeals to my pragmatic
nature. >>
Man
joelle, yes, that´s it.
never to believe something what we heard or thought about
"majority", "people", "guys", "", "..".
beause every (human) beeing has a lot of complete different
possibilities in himself, and every being has (perhaps hidden) a deep need for
space.
its on us as facilitat
I agree that my relationship to the sponsoring organization and the
participants shifts while I am engaging with a "client". In the planning
leading up to an event (especially and Open Space, but others as well), my
primary relationship is with the sponsors and possibly the cross
organization plan
At 01:25 AM 5/1/01 -0400, you wrote:
Harrison--
Don't believe everything you hear about numbers guys. A friend of mine who
has been CFO for a couple of large companies proposed Open Space to a client
last year (my friend had never seen OS in action, but got excited reading the
User's Manual).
At 09:52 PM 4/30/01 -0400, Doug. Germann wrote:
Harrison--
Well, maybe the "numbers guy" has had an epiphany--or is seeking one. I
know several recovering accountants and lawyers
Wonder why they do it, the first time? What reasons do they tell you? What
do you suspect are the real reasons?
Harrison--
Don't believe everything you hear about numbers guys. A friend of mine who
has been CFO for a couple of large companies proposed Open Space to a client
last year (my friend had never seen OS in action, but got excited reading the
User's Manual). He and I worked together on the plannin
well and those present have what is needed.
>
>I agree with your comments about "Who is the client?" Whoever I talk with in
>exploring a new project, I am straightforward about letting them know that I
>am working for the group, not the person who set up the appointm
Harrison--
Well, maybe the "numbers guy" has had an epiphany--or is seeking one. I
know several recovering accountants and lawyers
Wonder why they do it, the first time? What reasons do they tell you? What
do you suspect are the real reasons?
Is it the age of the Baby Boomers, finally getti
At 11:18 AM 4/30/01 -0400, Harrison wrote:
<< Those are guaranteed! I will tell folks that enabling the group to
become
<< inspired, innovative, creative, responsible, charged up, turned on
etc...
<< is a no-brainer. Living with such folks afterwards can be a little
<< difficult. Choose.
Doug wrote,
> But maybe that is what life is: a scary challenge. We can sleep or we can
> throw something into the reactor and see.
like ourselves.
-chris
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Harrison--
<< Those are guaranteed! I will tell folks that enabling the group to
become
<< inspired, innovative, creative, responsible, charged up, turned on
etc...
<< is a no-brainer. Living with such folks afterwards can be a little
<< difficult. Choose.
Yes!
And so we scare off the majori
At 12:32 AM 4/30/01 -0400, you wrote:
Harrison--
What do I think? I wonder (not at all facetiously) about the next question:
How then do you sell OST? Put another way, What gets the check writer
beyond our "What you want does not count, only what your people want"?
Harrison--
What do I think? I wonder (not at all facetiously) about the next question:
How then do you sell OST? Put another way, What gets the check writer
beyond our "What you want does not count, only what your people want"?
:-Doug. Germann
Harrison--
What I think is that the facilitator, mindfully holding the space, makes a
huge difference. And that mindful inaction conveys, more powerfully than
anything we can say, that all is well and those present have what is needed.
I agree with your comments about "Who is the c
A propos of what I am not quite sure -- but as our discussions have gone on
recently, I found my self thinking about Who is the client?" The easy
answer, and one that I subscribed to for a long time -- "The person who
pays the bill," doesn't seem so easy any more. I am find
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