Re: OsmAnd Live - struggling with the basics

2020-08-10 Thread Mario Cassar
Ok, observation 4 I found how to change it from the profile. Progress. On Tuesday, 11 August 2020 at 03:04:29 UTC+1 Mario Cassar wrote: > Dear all, > > I have OsmAnd Live which is as delightful to use as much as frustrating. I > have just returned from a two week tour on my motorbike in Europe

OsmAnd Live - struggling with the basics

2020-08-10 Thread Mario Cassar
Dear all, I have OsmAnd Live which is as delightful to use as much as frustrating. I have just returned from a two week tour on my motorbike in Europe and tried to use it as much as possible. However, there were many moments where I had to switch it off and use other Navigators. I do not know i

Re: Is this a routing bug?

2020-08-10 Thread A Thompson
Thanks, folks, that's really informative! I can see that OsmAnd's behaviour towards gates and inaccessible driving destinations is intentional and likely to be helpful with typical OSM data. The situation I described is unusual, and some announcement beyond "Turn right" (down a hypothetical roa

Re: Map update

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Jefferson Silveira writes: > the map of the state of Mato Grosso in Brazil was updated on > 06/30/2020. Can you tell me when the next update will be? Almost always, a new global database snapshot is taken on the 1st of the month at 0Z (hence last of previous in west longitude, e.g. .us, .b). I

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread 'Xavier' via OsmAnd
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:31:17PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:29:31AM -0400, 'Xavier' via OsmAnd wrote: OSM has tags for both number of steps (step_count tag) and handrails (handrail:*). But, usage is slim. Sorry - i meant ramp:bicycle=yes which is the rail to pus

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:29:31AM -0400, 'Xavier' via OsmAnd wrote: > OSM has tags for both number of steps (step_count tag) and handrails > (handrail:*). > > But, usage is slim. Sorry - i meant ramp:bicycle=yes which is the rail to push up your bike. With that most people will be happy except t

Map update

2020-08-10 Thread Jefferson Silveira
hello, the map of the state of Mato Grosso in Brazil was updated on 06/30/2020. Can you tell me when the next update will be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OsmAnd" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: Max Heights Ignored

2020-08-10 Thread 'gareth.l...@googlemail.com' via OsmAnd
Hi, I've tried a few bridges, but used these two for testing: 54.06711, -2.81458 53.76551, -2.62154 (small road under the A59) They both have heights shown on the max height map...

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread 'Xavier' via OsmAnd
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 03:29:40PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi Greg, On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: Florian Lohoff writes: > But still using a rail should be an option to select for the routing > profile not just assume that aunt tilly can carry her 30kg ebik

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
See my other post. Default should be IMHO the ability to overcome stairs, with reasonable penalty, as most bikers can do that and do it frequently even out of routing scenario. Stairs can be opted out. But as I do not use OSMand bike routing, my opinion does not matter much. :-) Dne 10. srpna

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Like, how many minutes of riding should be equivalent to 1 minute on stairs ? And think about scaling of this ratio too. 30 secs versus 15 minutes does not look the same as 4 mins versus 2 hours. I do not consider cases stairs are hard show stoppers, stair can be disabled completely here. Dn

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
You have not understood me correctly. Preferences should indeed be included, like for push penalties still preferring riding at the same time. But penalization should not be overdone. It applies to any penalties, like unpaved surface. Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:29:33 Greg Troxel napsal: Poutnik

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 03:11:33PM +0200, Poutnik Fornntp wrote: > It should be compared by the time for both activities, including > mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. > 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. > Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Poutnik Fornntp writes: > It should be compared by the time for both activities, including > mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. > 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. > Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would > be boring. The proper metric for ro

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Greg, On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Florian Lohoff writes: > > > Not just deprefer. Without user consent there should be NO usage of > > steps AT ALL. > > I can see that view, but there is another which is that if you want to > get from here to there on a bik

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It should be compared by the time for both activities, including mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would be boring. Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:01:34 Greg Troxel napsal: sort

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
As an author of BRouter bike profiles, regarding access issues and fallbacks to foot access, the optimal approach is a balanced trade off: What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect disabling access and what is the impact ? What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect allowing

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Florian Lohoff writes: > Not just deprefer. Without user consent there should be NO usage of > steps AT ALL. I can see that view, but there is another which is that if you want to get from here to there on a bike, sometimes you need to carry it. Surely it's better to do that 10m on steps than r

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 07:28:52AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Florian Lohoff writes: > > > Hi, > > > > last week i had the issue that OSMAnd tried to sent me through a > > highway=steps with my bike. I just quickly opened an OSM Note > > convinced that it must be a tagging issue: > > > > https:

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Majka
Not sure about your version - I am using latest from FDroid, resp. latest beta. You can set there the bicycle profile to avoid steps (Navigation > Settings > Avoid...) If you cannot find it, you need to wait for the update :) Majka On Monday, 10 August 2020 13:17:54 UTC+2, Florian Lohoff wro

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Florian Lohoff writes: > Hi, > > last week i had the issue that OSMAnd tried to sent me through a > highway=steps with my bike. I just quickly opened an OSM Note > convinced that it must be a tagging issue: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2296491 > > The way in question only carries a hi

Re: Is this a routing bug?

2020-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
A Thompson writes: > It has a barrier=gate at the start of its service road, but nothing in OSM > to say that it is inaccessible: My long-term osm view has been that barrier=gate without any access tag implies no access, rather that access yes/permissive. I agree that the current wiki text im

highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, last week i had the issue that OSMAnd tried to sent me through a highway=steps with my bike. I just quickly opened an OSM Note convinced that it must be a tagging issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2296491 The way in question only carries a highway=steps and yes - in bicycle profile

Re: Display elevation profile of gpx file

2020-08-10 Thread Dmitry Prodchenko
Hello! You need to open Menu – My places – Tracks – open selected tracks and you will find all information about the track. On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 6:39:52 PM UTC+3 keta...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, i can import in osmand+ my gpx files without problem (i usually use > a gps logger) but i

Re: To access OsmAnd through PC

2020-08-10 Thread Peer
In an android emulator (I use Genymotion) you can use the app Fake-gps to emulate a gps receiver. OsmAnd runs ok (a bit slow) in genymotion Op maandag 10 augustus 2020 09:58:10 UTC+2 schreef Max1234Ita: > > Hi Lijana, > > OsmAnd app is only for Android and iOS. > > There was an attempt of porting

To access OsmAnd through PC

2020-08-10 Thread Max1234Ita
Hi Lijana, OsmAnd app is only for Android and iOS. There was an attempt of porting, several years ago, but as far as I know it has been discontinued. However, you can install in your PC an Android emulator such as Nox or BlueStacks, and then have OsmAnd running in the emulated environment. Bu