Re: Web api

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen Price
Really? the only way to call Rest API's is with a third party add on? I was kind of looking for the out of the box way. But will have a look at RestSharp, always handy to know whats out there. They invent this stuff faster than anyone can learn it all. :) On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Mark

Re: Web api

2013-02-01 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
WebAPI are just normal urls like web pages. You can call using HttpClient http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.net.http.httpclient.aspx On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Really? the only way to call Rest API's is with a third party add on?

RE: Web api

2013-02-01 Thread Mark Thompson
Absolutely, there's nothing locking you into using a third-party tool to access a REST endpoint. For me RestSharp had too many nice features in it that made it an easy decision for me to justify using, but YMMV. NuGet also makes it nice and easy to add this stuff to your projects, but it's

Re: Web api

2013-02-01 Thread Heinrich Breedt
.net client: httpclient Webpage: ajax get/post On 1 Feb 2013 18:16, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Really? the only way to call Rest API's is with a third party add on? I was kind of looking for the out of the box way. But will have a look at RestSharp, always handy to know

RE: New Web API project

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
I believe it is an artefact of wanting to enable SPA (Single Page applications). That is, a web app, using mostly a single page, comprised of a lot of javascript calls to a WebApi backend. It will be rationalised soon enough I believe. - Glav From:

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: Web api

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
HttpClient as already suggested but, the framework does suffer from a myriad of choices (mostly due to historical choices). HttpWebRequest can do it too, any number of proxies as well. Or you can go lower level but I would suggest getting familiar with HttpClient. That way of working is the way

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
Webapi is a reaction to attitudes as described below. People were foregoing WCF due to complexity and a variety of other reasons. MVC was being used (with a bit of code) to produce simple JSON/XML Rest api's. The team took this onboard, altered their view of world as they were writing the Web

Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Davy Jones
I must be getting old. XML-rpc (simple XML http) XML-soap complex ish Wcf. Really complex Rest/Jason complex ish Web API simple A full turn of the wheel in 12 years. I get a new intern on my team next week, I wonder what new ideas he will bring. Maybe flat text config files? Davy the Older

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Katherine Moss
But then with all of these, you have to also think of Microsoft's new Service Bus for Windows server (used to only be on Azure). This supports I think some of the things that WCF never did such as publish/subscribe. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On

Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.comwrote: Webapi is a reaction to attitudes as described below. [ ... ] Ofcourse WCF can do REST too, you just have to twiddle a few hundred different knobs on the right way. I would argue WCF is not bullshit. WCF

Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I'm pleased to see that other people here are irritated by the number of choices we have for communication and by the complexity of WCF. I was also pleased to see someone else was bewlidered by having WebAPI buried inside MVC and found a way of starting with a managable skeleton project.

Re: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen Price
I must be getting old too Greg. Your rants are starting to make sense. I'm even nodding my head as I read. I've said it before, they invent this stuff faster than anyone can learn it. Lets hope its heading in the right direction. For the children's sake. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Greg

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RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
I actually fully agree. I have been in the industry for a while now as well and have seen the circle of dev life :) Kinda like clothes….. one day, those blue spandex shorts will come back into fashion :) - Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
Your kinda missing the point. Abstracting is not just so you can swap out another tech in its place. In fact, that aspect of abstraction is somewhat of a practical fallacy but that is another thing. Working with WCF and MSMQ is quite easy. Using the same principles, you can work with TCP

RE: SPAM-LOW Re: WCF service best practises

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Glavich
At the risk of being argumentative, we asked for this. Maybe not you or me specifically, but the community at large has. I agree the number of technologies at play, particularly in this space is large but it makes it all the more *interesting* to make those architectural choices. In some ways,