Re: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread David Connors
On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: (Mind you, this is what is supposed to be in the NBN plan - The NBNCo Corporate Plan contains these examples on page 67: * The 1Gbps AVC price will fall from $150 to $90 (40% decrease) while the average speed increases from

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Wright
Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93% of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was suggested. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: David

Re: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread David Connors
On 12 November 2013 20:36, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93% of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was suggested. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie. Now

Re: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Barnes
Adding Simon Hackett given there seems to be a lot of speculation as to his input here .. :) On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: “The price in other countries seems irrelevant. Those conditions don't exist here, otherwise the service would exist already,

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Wright
Actually it was you trying to propagate Malcolm Turnbulls lie that a 1Gbps was going to cost every household $20,000. But keep going trying to reflect from this lie, by all means. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: David Connors Sent: 13/11/2013 9:04 AM To: Tony

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Wright
Deflect. Damned autocorrect. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Tony Wright Sent: 13/11/2013 9:23 AM To: David Connors Cc: ozDotNet Subject: RE: NBN Petition Actually it was you trying to propagate Malcolm Turnbulls lie that a 1Gbps was going to cost every household

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Evrat
Turnbull's point was - 'don't anyone think that the Labor NBN was going to give everyone 100% always available unfettered 1 Gbps' .. There's no lie in that .. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Wright
It's still a lie. The whole premise is bogus. The lie is in claiming that this was ever reasonable. I have Bigpond cable. It is supposed to give me 100Mbps down and 2Mbps up. Does it always give me that? Of course not. It would never make business sense. I share my capacity with others on the

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Joseph Cooney
I'm still confused - based on what we know now of the published nbn pricing, once all the sweetheart deals and honeymoon periods are over, what will a dedicated GB connection to my house cost under the nbn? What will an 'allocated' or whatever you want to call it 1gb connection cost? On Nov 13,

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Wright
Quite the contrary – what I am saying is that most of what you are saying is simply irrelevant. If a home user is offered 1Gbps for 200Gb per month download for $200 per month, they don’t give a rats whether I understand the underlying technologies or not. Just stop suggesting that

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
If the NBN lasts for as long as the copper network, then won’t these prices fall over time? First we used to pay for a line that had no internet capability at all. Then we started paying for 56bkps what we pay for 8mbps now. Is there anything to suggest that over the longer term this trend

Re: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread David Connors
On 13 November 2013 10:56, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If the NBN lasts for as long as the copper network, then won’t these prices fall over time? First we used to pay for a line that had no internet capability at all. Then we started paying for 56bkps what we pay for 8mbps

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
Even over 20+ years? I don’t think, 20+ years ago we had any real idea how compute, storage, network and other infrastructure technologies were specifically going to fall in cost per unit, but they have been rather relentlessly. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com

Re: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread David Connors
On 13 November 2013 11:14, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Even over 20+ years? I don’t think, 20+ years ago we had any real idea how compute, storage, network and other infrastructure technologies were specifically going to fall in cost per unit, but they have been rather

RE: NBN Petition

2013-11-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
Half of what you’re talking about (aka the charges) are a simple financial construct that can be changed at any time. In 20 years a government might simply decide to change the way things are charged, and if required take a hit to the budget bottom line – it’d probably make a great election