Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93% of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was suggested. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie.
Sent from my Windows Phone ------------------------------ From: David Connors Sent: 12/11/2013 8:38 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: NBN Petition On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: > (Mind you, this is what is supposed to be in the NBN plan - > > The NBNCo Corporate Plan contains these examples on page 67: > * The 1Gbps AVC price will fall from $150 to $90 (40% decrease) while the > average speed increases from 30Mbps to 230Mbps (760% increase) > * CVC pricing starts at $20Mbps/month when average data usage is > 30GB/month and falls to $8/Mbps/month when average data usage is > 540GB/month. Price falls by 2.5 times, while the average data usage grows > by 18 times, which means 720% growth in revenue from CVC when accounting > for price falls. > > ) > Are you talking about this: http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/nbn-co-corporate-plan-6-aug-2012.pdf ? Page 67 says nothing of the sort. I *think* what they're saying is that they are factoring in the 'no charge until 30001st premise in an area gets installed' as a form of discount, which is pretty rubbery accounting. To put page 67 in laymans terms, the first 150mbps of capacity in the service area (keeping in mind that might be 70,000+ premises) is free. I believe I read in the draft NBN document that they were intending the > wholesale price to be $150 per month for a 1Gbps FTTH connection in > Australia. So the least deceptive answer is that you could have a 1Gbps > connection for $150 per month plus the cost of the ISP service. > Nope. $150 of AVC + the ISP Service + CVC. Even if the price of CVC dropped to $8/mbps/month, then that would still be 800% higher than the forecasted cost of getting data from Europe to Australia next year. i.e. 1mbps CIR from overseas to Brisbane = $1, getting it across Brisbane, $8. FAIL. > They didn’t broadcast the fact because they assumed that everyone would > expect the same behaviour that they are getting from just about every > single internet connection in the country at the moment, and that is, you > are likely to get speeds of 1Gbps from your ISP and then you’ll share a > pipe to the rest of the net with the other customers of the ISP. > I have to admit, you're the first advocate for CVC I've ever met. Once explained to most people they are mortified. No one expects the NBN to deliver ANYTHING like what they are getting today ... otherwise they would not advocate for the $ spend. > Given that FTTN is going to suffer the exact same issue, do you think > Malcolm Turnbull is going to stand on a podium and declare that there is > also going to be capping or shaping within the new FTTN network? Oh, right, > I forgot, they’re untouchable. > Hey? I hang Turnbull out to dry on CVC earlier today on this very thread. He is on the record, as is hackett, now we get to watch what happens. The fact we're even discussing a scenario where I can get data from Japan to Brisbane for 1/20th the cost of getting it across Brisbane - and you're saying this is somehow sane - beggars belief. The glimmer of hope I am hanging on to (as I said earlier) is that the outspoken comments from the current board and from Turnbull re CVC stick (i.e. Hackett has called for it to be scrapped or dropped to $1/mbps/month). If they want to revolutionise comms in the country, then they would have a single access speed of heaps, kill CVC and offer layer 2 intercap services at next to nix. That would be interesting and would truly enable things like a national LAN for a soho business, remote workers in country towns seamlessly on the corporate network, etc. Here is Simon Hackett’s preference, by the way. I believe it’s pro fibre: > > http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/ > I wasn't aware we were talking about fibre. David.
