if they want the code anyway
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up
anyway
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up
June 2010 3:07 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
code.
After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source code.
After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's
...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:11 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Eazfuscator is OKaccording to the reverse-engineering forums pretty much
all the .NET obfuscators can be broken, but they seemed to rate
SmartAssembly
on a goldmine. :-)
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Dylan Tusler
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 09:21 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Disclaimer: IANAL
Employee - Any
On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Dylan,
Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a specific
customer(s), can be a gold mine. I am not sure what owning the code
means, anyone and everyone (competent programmer) can reproduce the
Hi Iain,
Curious what you are classing as exorbitant. Are we talking $200?
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Dylan,
Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a
Yes, it's around the $200 per hour.
I guess it's all relative. I know that, given the source code, I could make
the changes just as quickly as the contractor.
My hourly rate is nothing like the $ he charges, and we wouldn't have to
wait for his availablility to make the changes. So in terms of
Also now that Red Gate have acquired both Reflector and Smart Assembly
they’re in a unique position in the obfuscation market.
It's fair to say they have both ends of the market covered.
Craig.
Different approach,
Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
Then attach a restrictive usage license.
Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
critical systems.
Then audit their site a few years on, determine if your license has been
breached
On 4 June 2010 11:19, Jason Finch jason.fi...@gmail.com wrote:
Different approach,
Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
Then attach a restrictive usage license.
Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
critical systems.
Then audit
genius! :)
On 4 June 2010 11:19, Jason Finch jason.fi...@gmail.com wrote:
Different approach,
Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
Then attach a restrictive usage license.
Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
critical systems.
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Simon Haigh
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 9:34 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
I always thought that being a contractor is similar to being an employee and
therefore the codebase would belong
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Hi Anthony,
Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Well i treat software like a car. When you buy a car they don't give you
the blueprints...
That is true for software too - sometimes. A car is one of thousands of
identical vehicles on sale. Each purchaser owns the car but
]
On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Hi Anthony,
Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate, I assume
that at the end they would
Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
]
On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Hi Anthony,
Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
practice
Of Michael Minutillo
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
code.
After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already
.NET Obfuscator Software..free!
http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx Is your website being
IntelliXperienced?
regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)
Is your website being IntelliXperienced?
Er, Anthony - even spam is more useful than this email; at least they
tell me where I can buy, hope and pray for the penis enlargement pills
that will cost me my entire life savings :)
On 3 June 2010 12:47, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
.NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Is your website
Oops..after some free .NET Obfuscator Software for my winform vb.net
project.
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Sam Lai
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 12:53 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free
Why are you looking at obfuscating you're binary?
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Oops..after some free
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.net+obfuscation+free
Cheers,
Dylan.
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Oops..after
?
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Why are you looking at obfuscating you're binary?
-Original Message
code?
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Why are you looking at obfuscating you're binary
-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:32 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Wrote below in a hurry, bad grammar and wording.
I didn't mean to indicate that a .NET binary (it is a binary format
That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept isn't it?
Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something I'm not
sure it's a great idea.
That's a pretty weird point of view.
After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time immemorial
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source code.
After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what compiled
code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language, pretty
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