RE: Mark II

2013-09-25 Thread David Connors
experience. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com

Re: Mark II

2013-09-25 Thread Scott Barnes
2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the AppStore in Windows 8.1 .. ** ** You're dead right. Moreover I don't

Re: Mark II

2013-09-25 Thread mike smith
it as the ‘one true path’ at the expense of the general desktop experience. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II

Re: Mark II

2013-09-25 Thread Stephen Price
of the general desktop experience. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes

RE: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread David Kean
Subject: RE: Mark II Eh? Microsoft brings in ~$20bn in revenue, and ~$6bn in profits every three months.[1] Surface Pro is a rounding error in the grand scheme of Microsoft’s overall portfolio of products. [1] http://www.google.com/finance?fstype=iiq=NASDAQ:MSFT From: ozdotnet-boun

RE: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Nathan Chere
2013 3:41 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II I wonder who is doing all the research for the Surface Pro Marketing… a giant that can’t find its home any more! I believe Microsoft needs to something quickly if it wants to stay a giant player ..except for business, devs etc no needs to buy MS

RE: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:06 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II “they can’t even get IE to conform to the HTML standard..when I develop web apps

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Nathan Schultz
, September 24, 2013 3:06 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** “they can’t even get IE to conform to the HTML standard..when I develop web apps….IE is always where the problems occur” ** ** On a related note, I’ve been focusing on getting up to date again with web UI

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Scott Barnes
-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 10:58 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** Eh? Microsoft brings in ~$20bn in revenue, and ~$6bn in profits *every three months*.[1] Surface Pro is a rounding error in the grand scheme

RE: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread anthonyatsmallbiz
] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 10:03 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II To be fair nobody has a clue how much impact Windows Client has... its all rubbery numbers around what the actual breakdowns are. In that out of that 55% of Microsoft's total revenue for Enterprise

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread David Connors
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the AppStore in Windows 8.1 .. You're dead right. Moreover I don't really know what problem the Windows 8 app store is solving. It has never been hard

RE: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Nathan Chere
(as I understand) it is forcing it as the ‘one true path’ at the expense of the general desktop experience. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II On Tue

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Scott Barnes
:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the AppStore in Windows 8.1 .. ** ** You're dead right

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Stephen Price
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Scott Barnes
...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check

Re: Mark II

2013-09-24 Thread Stephen Price
Connors *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the AppStore in Windows 8.1

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2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barnes
I think technically nothing really exciting as much as that sounds weird.. Yes you have a multi-touch laptop now with the Microsoft logo officially stamped on but HP, DELL etc aren't idiots and will fight them head to head on retaining relevance. Not only that they have to find a way to convince

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Ian Thomas
That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover is also usable on the Surface Mark I. The review leaves out extra RAM,

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Nathan Chere
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two different products. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II I reckon

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Nathan Chere
The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II Are you talking about the Surface RT

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barnes
about boils down to Windows Store, so both.* *** ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** Are you talking about the Surface RT

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread mike smith
*To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. ** ** Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need *exclusive *apps… and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barnes
, will they want v2? ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** I reckon Microsoft would be happy

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Nathan Chere
At least they didn't call it The New Surface (see: iPad 3). From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:49 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II 3 products... all with the same name.. nope nothing wrong

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barnes
2013 2:49 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Mark II ** ** 3 products... all with the same name.. nope nothing wrong with the marketing here :D --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com ** ** On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Tony Wright
I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** Are you talking about

Re: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barnes
PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Mark II ** ** Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two different products. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Nathan Chere
such a big deal about no more service packs) has done near enough to nothing to alleviate it. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:16 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The issue I have with that position

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread anthonyatsmallbiz
] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II … except that their phone/tablet strategy and all the failings that go with their metro/Windows Store/whatever-they-decide-to-call-it-tomorrow vision are leaking fail all over the desktop

RE: Mark II

2013-09-23 Thread Ian Thomas
Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:41 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II I wonder who is doing all the research for the Surface Pro Marketing… a giant that can’t find its home any more! I believe Microsoft needs to something quickly if it wants to stay a giant player