RE: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Karen Arthur
Marilyn I agree with you 100%. I've posted a response to Andrea's article on her website for anyone interested in this subject. Kind regards Karen Arthur -Original Message- From: Marilyn Kleidon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[ozmidwifery] Re: Public Indeminity

2002-09-05 Thread Jan Robinson
Title: Re: Public Indeminity Dear Darren et al; Your concern came to me in a round-about way but I could not help myself and reply to you via ozmidwifery as most of the recipients of your message use that list. You should not be concerned as there is ample evidence available in this country. T

[ozmidwifery] vbac

2002-09-05 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
Hi guys!  Just a quick question for all you wonderful people out there: is there any evidence or incidence of a uterine rupture in a vbac being managed in a birth centre anywhere or any time? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Andrea: I am going to bight on your controversy re doulas. I totally understand your apprehension to yet another American phenonmenon and your inference that it is just another way to make money. Though I have just returned from the USA after almost a quarter century, I am hardly an advocate

[ozmidwifery] Friends in Light

2002-09-05 Thread Maria Helena
I have just joined the list and the first e-mail I get is Ricardo`s! Ric is a dear friend and a knight in shining armour that fights galently in favour of all women giving birth in Brazil. He was telling you about our project `Amigas na Luz` which could be translated to Friends in Light, but in B

Re: [ozmidwifery] Menstruation

2002-09-05 Thread Ann green
Dear Jo, >From the same mother,there were 2 babes on the 90th,1 on the 50th and 3 on the 10th.The paed., who saw the smaller ones said "well someone has to be on the 10th"Ann --- Jo Slamen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm, was talking to a friend last week whose > youngest is 3 weeks older than my

Re: [ozmidwifery] Bottled water

2002-09-05 Thread Ann green
Dear Aviva, Having lived in South Aus. for 11 years(Pt Augusta, Glencoe West and Clare) I don't have to imagine the awful taste of the water I remember it even 30 years later.Fortunately the house in Clare had 2 large tanks and we used those for drinking water.I remember all too often filling the

[ozmidwifery] virus

2002-09-05 Thread Robin Moon
i"m sorry, it's me spreading the virus via Outlook Express. It's Klez H. and it has actively blocked our Norton Anti-Virus from working. (thanks kids for downloading it *sigh* ) It works by sending mail from an address IN my box to one in YOUR box. Nasty stuff. We're working on it, but we have to

[ozmidwifery] Greetings from Brazil

2002-09-05 Thread Maria Helena
Hello my new friends, My name is Maria Helena, I have just entered the list and I would like to present myself. I am an Ob&Gyn from Brazil, involved with the Humanization of Birth movement in my country, and eager to interact and learn from people involved with childbirth all over the world. I wo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
Andrea the email I got from you has an attachment too Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06,

[ozmidwifery] Friends in Light

2002-09-05 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Denise my dear:   The guy is Caldeyro-Barcia, and he is from Uruguay, right besides my state, Rio Grande do Sul, in the extreme south of this huge country Brasil. We have had, in the northern Brasil,  one of the most fantastic obstetricians in this conteporary world: Galba Araujo, that worked

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2002-09-05 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear Ricardo and list,   Great to have you on the list Ricardo, and more power to you and Rehuna.  At last, a very human obstetrician!!   Last year, when the "Best for Women" conference was announced, I wrote to them asking if there was midwife representation, as we really (??) wanted the sam

Re: [ozmidwifery] workshops

2002-09-05 Thread P & A Koziol
Great timing Pinky I'm off to facilitate a reunion class tonight and I'll be able to share this info with the group. Not too far from your venue so you may see some new parents from us. Thanks for the info Regards Alesa   Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne - Original Messa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Doulas in Brasil

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I travelled around Sth America including Brazil when I was younger and Ricardo's Kisses!! brought memories back of my fabulous time particularly in Rio.  so thank for the warm fuzzies     As the continent that brought the world Kangaroo Care and Caldo-Barcia we know we can learn from

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello Ric No, I am not aware of any attachments to my messages - the list doesn't handle attachments. My emails are all virus checked before they are sent, so no idea what the attachment is all about (and I don't use Outlook Express either!). Hug, Andrea At 09:32 6/09/2003, Lynne Staff wr

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Andrea I love your turn(s) of phrase particularly that which ends your diary entry on Nurse and midwives! Always the midwifery advocate Thank you Denise - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:00 AM S

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Lynne Staff
Especially as it has the title "Best for Women"! Says a lot about decision-making in Australian obstetrics, doesn't it? - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Br

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Lynne Staff
Hi Andrea - did you send an attachment with this email, because it came with one and I just wanted to check - Original Message - From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here.

[ozmidwifery] Doulas in Brasil

2002-09-05 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Dear Denise:   Next month (october) I will be in Cleveland, giving a lecture about Humanization on Childirth in Case Western University, showing my own experience with birth. It will take several years to transform birth in Brasil in a women centered and cientifically based assistance, and I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello Ricardo, Terrific to hear from you and to have you on the list. I hope you'll find the midwifery scene in Austrlaia interesting to read about. As you know, I've been able to have a first hand look at what is happening in Brasil and I am very excited about the work of REHUNA. Can I just s

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Lynne Staff
Hello to you Ricardo I have taken the liberty of forwarding your posting on to a coleague of mine and will ask that he table it at the next meeting of RANZCOG (Royal Australia and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists). You are right - the humanisation of birth IS a glob

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear ricardo Welcome Are you coming to the International meeting of OBs in Sydney next month??Denise hynd - Original Message - From: Ricardo Herbert Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:29 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here

[ozmidwifery] ABA contact

2002-09-05 Thread barbara glare & chris bright
Dear Denise,   Phone me on (03) 5565 8602 or e-mail me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Love, Barb

Re: [ozmidwifery] ABA contact

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Thank you Denise - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ABA contact I have a sister who is a counsellor if you are just looking for contact addresses Kirsten

Re: [ozmidwifery] sleepless night

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Barbara I have sent at least three e-mails to the national ABA president asking the board to consider endorsing NMAP as the breastfeeding outcomes of this option are excellent. But so far I have not had a response?Can you please help??Denise hynd - Original Message - From: ba

Re: [ozmidwifery] Premature

2002-09-05 Thread Margie Perkins
Hi Darren Cranio osteopathy or chiropractic might help if there is any problem with the skull bones. Has the child been assessed developmentally? Does the child have any other 'odd' behaviour. I've known a fair few children/people who bang their heads - because I worked in the disability fiel

Re: [ozmidwifery] sleepless night

2002-09-05 Thread barbara glare & chris bright
Dear Denise,   Yes, I am.   Love, Barb [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

[ozmidwifery] Pregnancy program on "Discovery" channel

2002-09-05 Thread Julie Clarke
  Hi Deb Yes I watched some of “World Birth” on Discovery very late last night – after class – it was on at 10.30pm too. Similarly to you I noticed the underlying medical tone in the narrator’s comments was very much risk and doom and gloom.  They are very careful to edit the footage to

[ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil here...

2002-09-05 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Hello everybody:   My name is Ricardo Herbert Jones I am an obstetrician from Brasil, and had the pleasure of meeting Andrea Robertson this year in a Congress about Humanization of Childbirth in São Paulo, Brasil. As an obstetrician I would like to share experiences with midwives and doulas a

Re: [ozmidwifery] sleepless night

2002-09-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Barbara Are you on state or national executive of ABA my mebership has lapsed (and until I settle I am not rejoining many groups as i can not carry or bare to leave copies of magazines and journals behind) Any way are you?? Denise  Hynd - Original Message - From: barbara

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: head-hitting

2002-09-05 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Add to this, Kasia's a beautiful dancer...maybe it has to do with rhythm and physical sensation. How about dancing with the headbanging child in arms??? Aviva - Original Message - From: Vance & Edwina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [o

Re: [ozmidwifery] sleepless night

2002-09-05 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Gorgeous, Barbara! Nothing's more beautiful than breastfeeding, and it's 12 years since I did it last. Where are the wetnurses? Aviva - Original Message - From: barbara glare & chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] s

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: head-hitting

2002-09-05 Thread Rhonda
If there is a medical problem - as suggested - if the skull is not growing at a normal pace then this may be causing headache from pressure (this should be checked.  Also, if a dose of panadol stops the head hitting one can presume that pain (head pain in particul

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: head-hitting

2002-09-05 Thread Vance & Edwina
My daughter was a headbanger from the time she could sit up until well after she could walk.  Many people suggested autism but I was inclined to think it was either attention seeking behaviour, or she liked the noise her head made when it hit the wall/floor.  She eventually grew out of it a

[ozmidwifery] Pregnancy program on "Discovery" channel

2002-09-05 Thread DebSlater
Watched some of this afternoon.  Looked at births happening around the globe on one single day - China, Ethiopia, Germany, US. Without exception every lady was birthing in hospital and lying down.  The nearest to an active labour was the German lady who spent the early part of labour in the hospit

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: head-hitting

2002-09-05 Thread Jen Semple
Probably a stupid question from someone who doesn't have kids yet, but how can you determine if an 18 month old has a headache if she can't speak? I know that babies are excellent communicators & do feel pain, but how can an adult isolate with certainty where the pain is coming from? Cheers, Jen

Re: [ozmidwifery] ABA contact

2002-09-05 Thread Brenda Kittelty
Denise,   I am an ABA Counsellor, and I am sure there are others in here too.  Barb Glare is ex-Vic Branch Vice President.   Brenda Kittelty   - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: [ozmidw