Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread Andrea Quanchi
I put the last recorded weight which will be that recorded as birth weight whenever it was done Andrea Quanchi On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 02:54 PM, maxine hardinge wrote: > a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how > do you complete the guthries card? it is

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-09 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Thank you deeply, Debbie. My eyes are opened further, along with my mind.   Aviva  The point is that - and I'm sure no-one would doubt it - that scans have their place.  In retrospect, I wish that I had had more scans with my second child - he may then have had the chance that my third did.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread Mary Murphy
The Guthrie card in W.A. asks for birth weight. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread maxine hardinge
a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how do you complete the guthries card? it is my understanding that the weight and age are both needed for the Newborn screening test. maxine _ Join the world’s la

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-09 Thread James & Stephanie Fairbairn
Has anyone had a pregnant woman complain of heat or pain at the site of a rountine ultrasound? My friend was always very uncomfortable with U/S and said that the baby would always move as if to get away. This happened in both her pregnancies - although she never refused the treament as she f

Re: [ozmidwifery] SMH Letter

2002-09-09 Thread Dr Penelope A Barrett
Check out Bettina Arndt's comments on childbirth today in the Sydney Morning Herald - page 11 - In her bit on 'combining motherhood and politics harder than a triple twist with a flip' - she goes on to describe her own experiences and (I am supposing she means well but really) compares having a ba

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread Sandra J. Eales
Irene You can probably guess my advice about weighing on day 3 - STOP it! It only causes stress to mothers and many midwives and doctors. Observation of feeds, output (passage of mec and transitional stools) and baby condition and behaviour is much more useful than day 3 weight to assess how wel

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-09 Thread Ann green
Dear List, Having had the situation of needing a vaginal U/S for gyno. problems I found Robyn Noble's description of this being like "medical rape" ringing in my ears!Anyone who does not think that this is an accurate term has not had the experience.Fortunately the results rule out fibroids, tumou

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread Mary Murphy
How would I know? I never weigh babies at day 3. In a well population, even if not feeding too well on the first few days they usually pick up. One can tell by looking at them if they are not doing well. Weigh on day 10 is a good measure and even then I don't worry tooo much. Most of the time I

[ozmidwifery] Re: [ozmidwifery AIMS and Ultrasound Unsound

2002-09-09 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello, This publication is still available, now in an updated edition - http://www.birthinternational.com/product/book/bk131.html Hoep this helps! Cheers Andrea At 19:38 9/09/2002, Leigh Evans wrote: >AIMS stands for Association for Improvement of Maternity Services. >Ultrasound unsound wa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper

2002-09-09 Thread alastair tawns
Hi Debbie, there was a case similar to this yonks ago in the uk ..the foetus was smaller and not found until the 'carrier' was quite a bit olderand only accidentally...an x-ray for something or other. The opinion was that it was a twin. Sorry I cant remember any more details, but it was a de

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread jireland
This is so simple that I don't mean to insult any one babies don't need to be weighed at birth the next day if the parents want to know is better also believe it or not I now suggest all mothers in the private system have their babe weighed on the SAME scales ie wait till they go to PN ward .I hav

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-09 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
These were homebirth babies, weighed on day7. Most babies born in the USA (at least in Washington) in hospital would be discharged between 24 and 48 hours after birth, so they would not have a day 3 weigh either. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Irene Munro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[

Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper

2002-09-09 Thread JoFromOz
Yup, I've heard of foeal hair growing in someone's back before... Jo - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper There is such a beast as a ter

Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper

2002-09-09 Thread DebSlater
Yes - I've heard of those (saw a whole TV program about it not so long ago).  It was talking about the role of stem cells in development of the fetus).  Very interesting, but, as you say, I had understood that these were just extra bits of organs etc. (not whole bodies). Debbie Slater Perth, WA

Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper

2002-09-09 Thread Kirsten Blacker
There is such a beast as a teratoma, I believe where all or part of a twin can grow within the other, but it's usually just a small part ie a toe or something   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, Sep

RE: [ozmidwifery] Sacred Singing

2002-09-09 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message Dear Edwina,   Thankyou for your enquiry... The "Ïntuitive Midwifery" workshop is open to all women and you would be most welcome. It is a big day, Sat 28th September (and another on the 29th when that fills) going from 8am registration for a 9am start until 9 0çlock at nig

[ozmidwifery] Web page referral

2002-09-09 Thread kirstenblacker
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Read in the newspaper

2002-09-09 Thread Rhonda
I saw on "ripley's believe it or not" about a man who had a sort of second head - it was teeth and part of the scull on the side of his head.  And another with teeth in his arm which continued to grow after birth -  Sort of like a part of conjoined twins yet not

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-09 Thread Monica Hook
09/09/2002 at 0732 Debby wrote:   -snip- However I personally would question how many women actually have terminations at this stage even if they are told bubs condition is fatal. -snip-   Hi Debby, Where I work there is a small

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-09 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 9/09/02 10:59:39 AM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like an interesting read.  What does AIMS stand for?  Any idea when it was published (roughly)? Thanks, Jen Hi Jen...AIMS stands for the Association for the Improvments In Maternity Services ...

RE: [ozmidwifery] horrified

2002-09-09 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message Aint it scary?   Working with women and babies at home for the past 14 years and I've never seen a babe not go to the breast ... It is not unusual for a babe not to feed for some time...some come out ravenous and some want to rest...after 24 hours or so they all tend to get a

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-09 Thread Leigh Evans
AIMS stands for Association for Improvement of Maternity Services. Ultrasound unsound was published in 1993. Leigh - Original Message - From: "Jen Semple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound >

Re: [ozmidwifery] horrified

2002-09-09 Thread Sally Williams
This sounds awful!! I also work in a level 3 referral hospital and we NEVER do any of these things!!   Sally   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 09 September 2002 05:47:53 PM To:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Sacred Singing

2002-09-09 Thread Vance & Edwina
Title: Message Hi Vicki & Nic,   Where, when and cost?   Cheers, Edwina (SA)   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Vicki Chan Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery]

[ozmidwifery] horrified

2002-09-09 Thread Barry MacGregor
Dear All Having moved from a relatively large regional hospital with ?midwifery care to a large city referral hospital, I  am becoming more and more amazed at interventions that some midwives see as normal.  Women come to the postnatal ward following a forceps delivery of their baby and our