Re: [ozmidwifery] Pelvic u/s to determine pelvic size and birthing ability???

2002-11-29 Thread Judy Chapman
Doesn't sound to VBAC friendly to me. I don't have references with me but the only way to try out the size of a pelvis is to try it out. I wrote recently of a primi scared sh.less by being told her pelvis was too small and she would need a CS. She birthed vaginally, easily in good time. Judy

Re: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-11-29 Thread Judy Chapman
To me the expression 'girls' has more than the meaning of young woman these days. Seems to me that it can mean a group of woman who are friendly and have a common bond of one sort or other. I actually don't mind being 'one of the girls'. Guess it helps me feel young again. Judy From: "Pinky

Re: [ozmidwifery] ttfn

2002-11-29 Thread Jan Robinson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ttfn On 29/11/02 1:09 AM, Vicki Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With great reluctance, I am going offline for now (I miss you all already!) I am just so tired at the moment...it's been a big year and being on the computer til 1am and later every night is wearing me down.

[ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Jan Robinson
On 27/11/02 10:30 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need to comment on little and older children with their mum and day at the very special family occasion - birth of a new baby. Flexibility, inclusion, patience, discussion, eye contact, listen, touch, talk and be very

[ozmidwifery] Re: [Maternitycoalitonmidwives] meeting and questionnaire

2002-11-29 Thread Jan Robinson
Dear Denise and Robyn I'm not sure what you are saddened about when ASIM, HBA, ACMI already come under the umbrella of Maternity Coalition and support the concept of the midwife choice for every Australian woman totally. In fact ASIM was involved in the writing and endorsement of the Maternity

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Jan and Robyn: I think your stories have captured the essence of children and animals at birth beautifully. Where else but at home could the family pets be there too. Imagine the birth suite if the family dog/cat/cockatoo also showed up with the two year old. Of course it would literally be a zoo

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Hey Jan This is what we can do for starters we are a good team. Lets write the stories that have been notable with children and animals. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:37 AM To: Robyn

[ozmidwifery] National get-together/Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi, I've changed the subject on this one - nearly missed Robyn's post... can we please change the title when the content changes from the original string? Robyn wrote: Why don't we through Ozmidwifery organise an outstanding NATIONAL CONFERENCE with All the interested and supportive groups

Re: [ozmidwifery] Pelvic u/s to determine pelvic size and birthing ability???

2002-11-29 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Melissa What this Obs is asking for does not show him to understand how the pelvis baby and mother can alter and work together or be blocked in efforts in labour to accommodate each other and the differences between that and a non-moving non-labouring pelvis which is what would be seen in a

[ozmidwifery] Maternity Coalition campaign and the role of other groups

2002-11-29 Thread Justine Caines
Hello All Jan, Bravo! As a former trade union official I certainly learnt that in unity is strength, however there is often a need for specialist representation during any campaign. So the answer is for all small groups to get behind and support the Maternity Coalition campaign to secure

Re: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-11-29 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear PinkyRight on gals I like from my US friends. I also have discomfort when people must use a title on a form or in person! I feel Mrs Hynd was my mother in law Why should woman and not the men have a title which indicates their matrimonial status any way??M/s I will use if I must!!

RE: [ozmidwifery] National Assembly/Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Andrea Thanks for your support for midwives and women once again. I put myself forward to assist in whatever you think is appropriate. Your experience to coordinate something of large dimension will be invaluable. If the responses are good let me know what you want. We will need adequate time

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-29 Thread Denise Hynd
dear Tina I congratulate not only on your belief but more importantly that it leads you to act and I am cheered by it and the cohesion of the BMid group!I also have the same hopethough my experiences have jaded me I still act and beleive that good things will come not only to our

Re: [ozmidwifery] National get-together/Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi Andrea, I think this is a great idea!. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] National get-together/Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Malavisi, Pete
Yes Robyn, I think it would be great to have a national conference and really put some fire into things, am happy to do what I can from this end, Andrea your offer sounds great and yes well done for the getting the future birth program going with the push for NMAP, yours in midwifery pete malavisi

RE: [ozmidwifery] National get-together/Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Ok Pete We can combine our resources from this end and I am sure MIPP and others will also be involved. Robyn www.melbmidwifery.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malavisi, Pete Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:49 PM To: '[EMAIL

RE: [ozmidwifery] Maternity Coalition campaign and the role of other groups

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Dear Justine I also believe this is how it should be. Unity in strength with specialist representation under the umbrella of Maternity Coalition. The only problem with placing homebirth in the background of NMAP right now many midwives are being forced to drop by the wayside because of the lack

RE: [ozmidwifery] Conference

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Tina With all your skills and honesty you would be the ideal personto lead the way for the BMid Student Collectivearound Australia,to be represented at a National Assembly/Conference. love Robyn www.melbmidwifery.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Seeking dopplers ...

2002-11-29 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
Robyn, The doppler is available from Cottman SBA (surgical supply place) in Adelaide,Perth and Melbourne I think. The contact I have here in Adelaide is Andrew, and you can find their website at http://www.cottmansba.com.au/ Hope this helps Tania . -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE

RE: [ozmidwifery] Seeking dopplers ...

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Thanks Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Seeking dopplers ... Robyn, The doppler is available from Cottman SBA