Re: [ozmidwifery] Compulsory heelpricks for newborns plea - MJA

2003-10-19 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I wince at compulsory testing too. Surely as Sally says, encouragement from midwives for the test to be done and good education on the benefits of screening, ensurance that the test is not omitted through pratitioner/health system neglect, a domicillary midwifery effort to document and collect the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Compulsory heelpricks for newborns plea - MJA

2003-10-19 Thread Jo Bourne
We passed on pretty much everything but this test and it was a complete non-event, my daughter fed through the test without even wincing, I can't really understand why you wouldn't do it. But the idea of making it compulsory scares me, I wonder what would be next - many people can't understand w

Re: [ozmidwifery] Compulsory heelpricks for newborns plea - MJA

2003-10-19 Thread Sally Williams
Personally, I believe that parents should be encouraged to have this test on their babies. Surely a moment's discomfort is worth a lifetime of illness, or no life at all!   Sally - Original Message - From: margaret schmidt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October

[ozmidwifery] Nathaniel's birth story.

2003-10-19 Thread *G and S*
Hi Everyone, Before I begin the onslaught of questions I just want to say 'thank you' to the many people who took the time to e.mail me both on and off list. Writing my birth story has been very therapeutic and so too (in no small way) has been all of your wonderful feedbac

Re: [ozmidwifery] Compulsory heelpricks for newborns plea - MJA

2003-10-19 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
You can read the full article in the MJA at:   http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/179_08_201003/met10152_fm.html   Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - From: margaret schmidt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Com

[ozmidwifery] Compulsory heelpricks for newborns plea - MJA

2003-10-19 Thread margaret schmidt
Hi everyone   Found this snippet this morning.  Going to be published in MJA this week.  Will make for some interesting conversation at work.  I hope I have pasted the link correctly.  The word mandatory always sends shivers down my spine.   http://news.ninemsn.com.au/Health/story_52510.asp

RE: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald

2003-10-19 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Any study of this nature is bound to be deeply flawed for the reasons you state Lynne. There would also be a lot of bias attached to this kind of a study because any centre willing to participate would already have a leaning towards intervention and caesarean section or they would find the whole id

Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald

2003-10-19 Thread Lynne Staff
We know the flaws in the touted breech trial were the location and quality > of staff chosen to assist in womens pursuence of vaginal breech. The lack of > familiarity or experience itself was somewhat prohibitive. Not much is made > of this in the official critiques of this now perceived benchmark

Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald

2003-10-19 Thread Lynne Staff
Hey Nigel! Welcome back! - Original Message - From: "Selangor Maternity Centre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald > Hi All, > > Thanks Lynne whereas I agree with the main theme of the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nathaniel's birth story...Warning Long.

2003-10-19 Thread M & T Holroyd
Sonia, Your story had me crying, but I could not stop reading. Thankyou for sharing with us. I believe I have learnt a few things from you for my life as both a mother & a midwife. Thankyou again & god bless your family. Tina H. (Brisbane). - Original Message - From: "*G and S*" <[E

RE: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald

2003-10-19 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Lynne, this is so true and especially so for certain religious groups. For instance, As a Christian I was brought up believing that labour was a curse becaue Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden. When I was pregnant with Daniel I found out that this was a false interpretation of the scripture with "pai