RE: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-12 Thread George Henne
>> the program on a real pda, but there is a noticeable lag time between >> when you tap the icon and when the first screen shows up. > >This is the same with NSBasic. I had to put a splash screen up just you the >user would know their palm had not died. Are you initializing a lot of variables in

RE: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-12 Thread Dustin Davis
It sounds like your in a similar boat - except you started with AppForge instead of NSBasic. I just wish the learning curve was not so steep. > the program on a real pda, but there is a noticeable lag time between > when you tap the icon and when the first screen shows up. This is the same with

RE: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-12 Thread David Martin
nal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of David Orriss Jr > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:46 AM > To: Palm Developer Forum > Subject: Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long] > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-12 Thread Matthew Bevan
> > Very professional looking, and uses VB structure. If I was to recommend > > a BASIC product (which I'm not ;) I'd go with this one. > You're kidding right? Only partially. The IDE looks nice. I didn't really look closely at the code any of those systems produced. I only really mentioned

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-12 Thread David Orriss Jr
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:20 AM, Matthew Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AppForg[e] (www.appforge.com) > Very professional looking, and uses VB structure. If I was to recommend a > BASIC product (which I'm not ;) I'd go with this one. > You're kidding right? You might as well have r

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Dustin Davis
> If you can't write in C then by all means use one of the other > programming languages, but don't moan about runtime modules > or code size. This is why I would advocate learning C. There is a learning curve with any language you choose to use if you are new to the Palm. I'm just suggesting

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-11 Thread Stringer
>>Laurent THALER writes: >>It still uses a runtime >> module - and there is no excuse for that when you use C. > >From: Ron Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What percentage of C programs do not contain or use one of: > > libc > stlib > stdio > PalmOSRuntime_2i_A5.lib > MathLib.prc Wow,

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-11 Thread George Henne
>> There is also something called NSBasic (www.nsbasic.com) - >> using the BASIC sytnax. Is that not an IDE or is it not Visual Basics? > >Take the S off of that, and it works ;P I have to admit, NSBasic looks >good. >It seems, however, that is standard BASIC, not Visual Basic in structure.

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-10 Thread Ron Nicholson
Laurent THALER writes: It still uses a runtime module - and there is no excuse for that when you use C. What percentage of C programs do not contain or use one of: libc stlib stdio PalmOSRuntime_2i_A5.lib MathLib.prc etc. ? BTW: As long as people are plugging their own solutions: H

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-10 Thread Jeremy Dewey
IDE = Integrated Development Environment. Being one of the authors of both PocketC and OrbForms, I have a very biased view. If you are looking for a RAD tool, OrbForms Designer is pretty fast (compared to other non-native compilers), and most importantly is very easy to use. It does not require

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-10 Thread Laurent THALER
Matthew Bevan a écrit: OrbForms (www.orbworks.com) It looks surprisingly like... Visual Basic, for C. It still uses a runtime module - and there is no excuse for that when you use C. It also seems to be a subset of C (OC?)... PocketC is a nice tool for very quick (and dirty) developm

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS [long]

2002-12-10 Thread Matthew Bevan
(If you give a short reply to this, be kind and remove the [long] from the subject :) On December 9, 2002 08:27 pm, Micholi Chaikin wrote: > Sorry, I am new at this. What is API? (I presume UI means user > interface?) :-) API = Application Programming Interface UI = User Interface (but you alrea

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-10 Thread Micholi Chaikin
> There are tools available in the API to design UIs at runtime Sorry, I am new at this. What is API? (I presume UI means user interface?) :-) > AppForge is the only IDE that uses Visual Basic for the Palm. Sorry - what is an IDE? There is also something called NSBasics (www.nsbasics.com) -

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-09 Thread George Henne
NS Basic's speed depends what you're trying to do. If it's heavy CPU crunching, C will certainly be much faster (and can be called from NSB). More typical Palm apps, with forms and objects, don't have that much of a speed difference since NS Basic makes heavy use of the Palm APIs. With version

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-09 Thread dustin
NSBasic is okay, but I wish I would have taken the time to learn C. NSBasic probably creates the slowest apps imaginable, plus requites their huge run- time module. It is easy to program though if you're looking to get something out the door quickly. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], George Henne <[EMAI

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-09 Thread George Henne
>As a Visual Basic programmer who recently took an interest in OS >development, I am interested in finding out more about writing Palm >programs in Visual Basics Code (I use v6 Enterprise) ~ the palm development >web site says it is possible but does not give any details. >I am also looking for

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-07 Thread Oliver
> I am also looking for more information > regarding choosing a development environment > in general - I seems most of you use something > called Code Warrior. Not sure if most, but it's one of the main development tools for PalmOS. > I am familiar with both Visual Basics and the syntax > of

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-07 Thread Oliver
> I am interested in finding out more about writing > Palm programs in Visual Basics Code (I use > v6 Enterprise) ~ the palm development web site > says it is possible but does not give any details. Really? Look more closely, e.g. on this page, which can be accessed from the palmos.com homep

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-07 Thread Matthew Bevan
> AppForge is the only IDE that uses Visual Basic for the Palm. Sorry, should have written that differently. AppForge is the only IDE -that comes to mind-... -- Matthew (Darkstorm) Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Margin Software, NECTI. http://www.marginsoftware.com Re-inventing

Re: using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-07 Thread Matthew Bevan
Howdy! I have a personal grudge against VB (it was forced upon me during highschool and I've had an aversion to it ever since, besides the fact that it's from Microsoft) but I love Palm programming. I have heard about VB tools for Palm, though using them would incur a large amount of overhead

using Visual Basics to program Palm OS

2002-12-07 Thread Micholi Chaikin
Hi, As a Visual Basic programmer who recently took an interest in OS development, I am interested in finding out more about writing Palm programs in Visual Basics Code (I use v6 Enterprise) ~ the palm development web site says it is possible but does not give any details. I am also looking for