Re: [PAYCO] Determing A Good Standing Branch

2014-10-13 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrades Comrade Ray what Apa communicated it is a true reflection of the discussions held. That is why already there is a fabrication about the meeting outcome because the effect of that unity and its expansion thereof as you put it will go a long way in assisting stabilising the party. I also

Re: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein

2014-09-28 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
MoAfrika Vusie You are simply playfull and enjoy this party going up and down with no programme. There is nothing genuine and noble to what you are saying. You are behaving like someone who is idling in politics so anyone can make you say and do what he wishes. On Sunday, September 28, 20

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-10 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
sion about the state of the Party, which is not the >>>>>new state. Same state prevailing since the sixties. We do not expect a >>>>>perfect Annual Conferences. Nevertheless, we make our small contribution. >>>>>I must say this in closing, Tshwane

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-10 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
ions used to be better organised and strong, not its weak and divided! Comrades, want money and positions-prestige, zi-politicki se parliament privileges! Izwe lethu Ndima On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:20 PM, 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress wrote: Cde. Ndade >

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-10 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Cde Mvakali Maybe you are right son of the soil ngoba kuya gezwa apha kwa PAC On Monday, September 8, 2014 10:08 AM, "mvakalijust...@gmail.com" wrote: Cde I suggest u call a venting out meeting the nitshelane indaba zenu kahle, nishayane manishayana but at the end the Pac must move for

Re: Fwd: Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-10 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
ure seconding members not individual (including individual office >>bearer) - this is democratic centralism not dictatorship labeled democratic >>centralism. >>Revolutionary regards, >>Sbusiso Xaba >> >>On Sep 8, 2014 4:52 PM, "'Mbuyiselo Kantso&

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-09 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Cde. Ndade Before I go anywhere with your points let me make you aware of one thing that this subject does not involve you as Ndade as Sedibeng Regional Chairperson as you identified yourself so. I am talking of what happened on the court and what is recorded in the IEC whether it satisfy you

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrade Ndima Since the unbanning of the PAC I have never come cross the PAC being in this pathetic state of affairs especially towards congresses. Even if there were differences in structures and NEC itself our congresses showed maturity of members and NEC towards them. Any normal human being

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-07 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Dear Smal Zondo The main problem here is that you clowns running the party and hope you will get the PAC progressive. You say Mphahlele is out and I think you suggest the SG is this messiah of whom I am told he is supporting you financially and hence you don't suggest he is not out. Unfortunat

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
hat makes one not to see the light at the end of the tunnel, is that out >>>>of all these discussions we hardly find a convergence point in terms of the >>>>wayforward. Neither side presents any concrete plan and steps to rescue the >>>>party from th

Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
that we are in crisis, we all >>contributed to it and we need everybody's shoulder on the deck to get our >>movement out of this mess. >>Izwe lethu! >>Linda Kwame Ndebele >>Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>From: &

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-04 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
up >>our movement. We need leaders who would be hands-on, selfless and who can >>rise above the problem. >>I believe PAC can be rescued only if we accept that we are in crisis, we all contributed to it and we need everybody's shoulder on the deck to get our movement out of t

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Cde. Ndima In Sesotho they say tlala ke manyala because people who are hungry and desperate for alcohol they will be rented for everything. I think Thomas Sankara was right to say that a soldier with no proper ideology is dangerous and I think this is what you are sharply raising. It is true

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Cde. Raymond I think it is order that you clarify the situation surrounding Cde Moloto. In the first place when an NEC of PAC is divided how will it function and at the same time did those people put at leadership helm at Butterworth never learned the past mistakes and errors committed by the

Re: [PAYCO] INVITATION TO PAC NATIONAL CAUCUS - CONFERENCE/CONGRESS

2014-09-04 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
ress The Caucus is not a Constitutional Structure of the PAC of Azania but is open to all PAC Members and Cadres. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device From: "'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-04 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Cde Kutie It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the people they serve out there. Let me assure you pretending there is no need to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather pre

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-03 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Morning Cde. Raymond I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an individual in the form of an S.G who thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others. By the way you are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC which operates somewhere in a building in Jobur