Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 01:00 +0200, Jeff Rose wrote: > > My real question is how to work with arrays in this manner. I'd like > to use [line] objects to generate small sequences that I write into > short segments of an array. With a for loop this would be straight > forward, but I don't know how

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.3-extended released!

2007-10-23 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:41 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Finally, it's done! The most polished release of Pd yet. We are > further refining Pd into a truly powerful and usable programming > platform. > Congratulations HC! This is a fantastic achievement. I now have Pd working con

Re: [PD] Spectrum graphing amplitude problem

2007-10-23 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:48:32 -0500 "Charles Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That won't work in sunlight for example. > > > > > > Haven't you ever seen it? (in sunlight that is) > > As implied, I'm 99% positive I've seen it before. You might still be > able to convince me that I haven

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jeff Rose hat gesagt: // Jeff Rose wrote: > So I was playing with the FFT example that lets you adjust the gain > for frequency bands that gets applied to a plain noise signal. In > messing around I found that I could actually make some cool sounds > that seemed like rushes of wind and bir

Re: [PD] [pdp_qt][pdp_qt~]: controling the frames

2007-10-23 Thread Javier Garcia
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > pdp_qt will play a frame per bang, so just send it 45 bangs. Thanks but that's not what i was looking for. I was working with [pdp_qt~] so I forgot to check [pdp_qt] help patch..There are many more things explained there and i have discovered what i want: I

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Jeff Rose
Whoah, great! Thanks a lot for the tips Frank and Jamie. footils.org looks like a treasure trove of interesting stuff to learn from. I think with this info I can put together the wind and birds patch. I'd kind of like to dig a little more into the dynamic patch question though. It seems lik

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jeff Rose hat gesagt: // Jeff Rose wrote: > I'd kind of like to dig a little more into the dynamic patch question > though. It seems like a pretty fundamental design decision or > constraint to not handle dynamic creation and deletion of objects within > the synthesis engine. Well, ye

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Hi! Frank Barknecht a écrit : > Hallo, > Jeff Rose hat gesagt: // Jeff Rose wrote: > >> I'd kind of like to dig a little more into the dynamic patch question >> though. It seems like a pretty fundamental design decision or >> constraint to not handle dynamic creation and deletion of objects wit

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Patrice Colet a écrit : > Hi! > Frank Barknecht a écrit : >> Hallo, >> Jeff Rose hat gesagt: // Jeff Rose wrote: >> >>> I'd kind of like to dig a little more into the dynamic patch question >>> though. It seems like a pretty fundamental design decision or >>> constraint to not handle dynamic cre

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Patrice Colet wrote: Also, Jeff, your project about birds sounds very intersting, you certainly know the work of Olivier Messiaen,:). hmm? how does that compare to, say, the work of Roger Whittaker? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mat

[PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I built a Pd-0.39.3-extended release for Debian/testing and Ubuntu Gutsy, try it out and let me know how it works for you: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-23/Pd-0.39.3- extended-debian-testing-i386.deb .hc ---

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread rez
Great!!! I'll try in a pair of hours in a new installed UbuntuStudio 7.10 (Gutsy) 2007/10/23, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I built a Pd-0.39.3-extended release for Debian/testing and Ubuntu > Gutsy, try it out and let me know how it works for you: > > http://autobuild.puredat

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Patrice Colet wrote: > > > Also, Jeff, your project about birds sounds very intersting, you > > certainly know the work of Olivier Messiaen,:). > > hmm? how does that compare to, say, the

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread marius schebella
Frank Barknecht wrote: > Well, yes, it was a pretty fundamental decision. Languages like > SuperCollider, Nova and Csound to some extent show, that dynamically > creating synthesis objects can work in a realtime system as well. and not to forget http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ marius. ___

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread altern
very quick test ... so far so good. thanks for doing it so quickly. enrike Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: > I built a Pd-0.39.3-extended release for Debian/testing and Ubuntu > Gutsy, try it out and let me know how it works for you: > > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-23/Pd-

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:44:09 -0400 (EDT) > Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Patrice Colet wrote: > > > > > Also, Jeff, your project about birds sounds very intersting, you > > > certainly know the wor

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread rez
Ok. running after install, Pidip and Ppd requieres the instalation of liblame and libjasper-1.701.s0.1, but I've already have installed it, so I've made a link to my original libjasper version. Machine: Dell M90 with UbuntuStudio 7.10 (Gutsy) works fine! thanks!! 2007/10/23, altern <[EMAIL PROTE

[PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle: Tuesday, Oct. 30th

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
http://idmi.poly.edu/patchingcircle Come and make some spooky patches for Halloween!! :D vade will be around with his wonderful shaders for Jitter and soon Pd/ Gem, and Marius Schebella will be hacking on shaders for Pd/Gem. I'll be there breathing easier after finally making a Pd-extended

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 14:37 +0200, Jeff Rose wrote: > Whoah, great! Thanks a lot for the tips Frank and Jamie. footils.org > looks like a treasure trove of interesting stuff to learn from. I think > with this info I can put together the wind and birds patch. > > I'd kind of like to dig a litt

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.3-extended released!

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:23 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:41 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> Finally, it's done! The most polished release of Pd yet. We are >> further refining Pd into a truly powerful and usable programming >> platform. >> > > Congratulations HC! T

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Jamie Bullock wrote: BUT, I don't think dynamic patching in Pd as it currently stands is officially supported (by Miller), It's quite useless to say that, unless you are interested in the philosophical aspects of whether dynamic patching is a feature of pd, what is a fea

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread marius schebella
Roman Haefeli wrote: > dynamic patching in pd is done by sending messages to canvasses > (patches, subpatches or abstractions). you don't need any externals for > dynamic patching. but you _can_ use externals, too. [dyn] will give you the opportunity to create objects dynamically and also del

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I can't find any code in pdp or pidip that includes the jasper headers. What needs jasper? .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:01 PM, rez wrote: Ok. running after install, Pidip and Ppd requieres the instalation of liblame and libjasper-1.701.s0.1, but I've already have installed it, so I've ma

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Patrice Colet wrote: > >> Also, Jeff, your project about birds sounds very intersting, you >> certainly know the work of Olivier Messiaen,:). > > hmm? how does that compare to, say, the work of Roger Whittaker? > > _ _ __ ___ _ ___

[PD] generating a list of aliases for pdpedia

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I know that some people where working on generating a list of objectclass aliases for importing into pdpedia (i.e. f = float). Here's my contribution, I wrote a quick sed regexp that pulled the name from anytime addcreator() was used, which is the function that defines the alias

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Actually, it would be good if you did push the idea. :D I think if we aren't switching to SVN, we really should consider a distributed system. I am just not sure which one is the best one for the Pd community. While Linus' personality is

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread rez
wow... I don't know. Maybe I will perform a new installation in other machine with only Gutsy 7.10 (no ubuntstudio). I'll inform you. regards rez 2007/10/23, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I can't find any code in pdp or pidip that includes the jasper headers. > What needs ja

Re: [PD] scroll bug

2007-10-23 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
> It did happen to me before, cf. [1]. But it seams to be "fixed" in > later versions of Pd-extended-0.39.x I'm reproducing it in PD-Vanilla 0.40.2 on Windows XP. I don't know what the "scroll with two fingers" option is, however i get the error (only sometimes, at random times) when scrolling w

Re: [PD] scroll bug

2007-10-23 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
> actually matteo just wanted to point out that he has already submitted a > bug-report to the bug-tracker [1817858] > i think he only wanted to raise the priority on a social level. I am really sorry if I annoyed anyone with the double post, but posting the issue to the bug tracker and to the

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread patrick
salut, error on ubuntu gutsy: 2007-10-23/Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip.pd_linux: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory pidip: can't load library after the installation of liblame, i have this error: /usr/local/lib/p

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:35 PM, patrick wrote: > salut, > > error on ubuntu gutsy: > 2007-10-23/Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb > > /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip.pd_linux: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > pidip: can't load library > > after th

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Sounds good to me! I think my biggest "blocker"-level issues with the extended 0.40.3 builds are the mismatched font-cursor handling in object-boxes with the new fonts, and the inability to use >~/ mtx_*~ and so on (though I believe IOh

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle: Tuesday, Oct. 30th

2007-10-23 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Awesome... Wish I could join you all. ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > http://idmi.poly.edu/patchingcircle > > Come and make some spooky patches for Halloween!! :D > > vade will be around with his wonderful shaders for Jitter and soon Pd/ > Gem, and Marius Schebella will be hacking

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle: Tuesday, Oct. 30th

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Maybe you can... ;) I'll try to stream it :D .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: > Awesome... > > Wish I could join you all. > > ++ > > > Jé > > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> http://idmi.poly.edu/patchingcircle >> >> Come and make some spooky patches for Halloween!! :D

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, you don't have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono working/installed. It has a distinctive lower L. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Here's a new pic demonstrating the issue, by the way (I'll add it to the tracker) The 1px wide canvas is demonstrating where I am clicki

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
The following lines: sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_width = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 3, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_height = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 4, argc, argv); are how Pd finds out the

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
Drat, we need some way to list the available fonts by the appropriate names so that Tk will find them. I don't know a simple way to do that at the moment! M On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 06:10:24PM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: > I guess that is not correct, since it changes to the same font no matt

[PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ben Bogart had this problem as well, basically the font wasn't recognized by the system. Can you use that font in anything? I think he solved it by reinstalling x-ttcidfont-conf. On a Debian- esque machine, you do this: apt-get install --reinstall x-ttcidfont-conf .hc On Oct 23, 2007,

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Monaco is anti-aliased on bigger sizes, at least on the machines I've tested on.  I attached an example..hcOn Oct 23, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:You're right.  It looks like it's using regular Bitstream Vera Sans rather than Mono?I have this line in my .pdrc-font-face "Bitstream Vera

[PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Here's my analysis of this: We want to have patches be laid out the exact same on all platforms, pixel-by-pixel. This is necessary to have decent GUI layouts that work. Part of this is having the box sizes be the same. If you can get the code to use the automatic sizing, and produce boxe

Re: [PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size on all platforms (and also that it agree at least approximately with the sizes of the old fonts used). But, as a fallback, when the font shows up at the wrong size, I think it's better to fall back to the old behavior of adjusti

Re: [PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am fine with that as long as the box sizes for the default font face and standard font sizes are the same to the pixel on all platforms. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size > on all platforms (and a