Oh, wasn't the metaphor clear, really?
well, no problem, here you go then... once more...
We don't care to know if someone says; "Hey, I got a clarinet", we wanna
know what he is doing with it, in a sense that it'd make more sense if the
person would come and say; "Hey, check out, look what I do
Hello Honki,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki wrote:
> hi,
> i am honki.
> i do some designs about puredata.
>
> illustration:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
>
> gui:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4522863658/
>
>
The designs are cool!
I just don't
András Murányi wrote:
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets
are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such
kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however, about migrating
to another GUI toolkit.
Really? Which one?
As a comment on t
Sorry, if you receive that mail twice. It seems it didn't make it
through the list the first time. In the meanwhile, Frank already
mentioned it: A clock-exact phase reset is needed. I'm happy to see that
I'm not the only one seeing that need.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 02:10 -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
Btw- I don't mean "this will be a 'Hello World' for Pd at some future
point in its development." I just mean it's a good way for users to
test how flexible and expressive their software is in a live setting.
I mean let's face it-- you crash at
Ah yes. This is a really good point. I just read
through your whole email Roman and this brings back
all those times I was trying to get a click free
phase reset in an oscillator but never bothered to
debug it in enough detail to see that this was indeed
a block boundary problem.
You are right
ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too:
in german there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der
badehose"
translated somehow: "when the farmer can't swim it's because of his bathing
trunks"
so it's about swimming not dancing!
crossfading salutis
ø
& don't
>Oh, wasn't the metaphor clear, really?
nope
>well, no problem, here you go then... once more...
there you go
>We don't care to know if someone says; "Hey, I got a clarinet", we wanna know
>what he is doing with it, in a sense that it'd make more sense if the person
>would come and say; "
segmented and curvy cords comes with another patching design,
like in maxMSP where almost all the time the messages order doesn't have an
importance.
Also it's said by some users that max patches works better when everything is
in the same subpatch,
and that is not the case with pd.
Many ot
This (rather pointless) discussion is really clogging the list since
ages now, whithout IMHO giving any real suggestion on improvements for
Pd... It started IIRC with someone coming to mailing list about software
A and sayng "hey software B is much better ("smoother", uh?) than A
which sucks"..
Hi everyone
Is the bin_ambi library available for linux? Does anybody knows where to
download it?
Thanks
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On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
"mixing"? Then I'd be also interested in what way Pd fails and how
another software (you name it) succeeds in doing it c
> Actually, I think (it's not the first time I say that, I guess), that
> all inlets of object classes, which have signal outlets (or all
> objects that convert from message domain to signal domain) should
> take the exact timing into account.
Yeah! No object should be left out! Every single obje
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 20:23 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> Actual dance floors musics needs a very large handset of tools that also
> require
> best technologies for avoiding sound loss
> and having the sound responding correctly through all sound systems.
Are you implying there was no dan
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 16:00 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
> > Actually, I think (it's not the first time I say that, I guess), that
> > all inlets of object classes, which have signal outlets (or all
> > objects that convert from message domain to signal domain) should
> > take the exact timi
just uploaded 2 vanilla workouts. these are not tracks. just me jamming in
the staffroom of the school where i work. not sure if they will change
anyone's mind on anything, but i think they show a bit of dynamic range and
the possibilities offered by vanilla pd and perseverance.
http://soundclou
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Konstantinos Benardis wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Is the bin_ambi library available for linux? Does anybody knows where to
> download it?
>
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iem_bin_ambi
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IOhannes
>>> Matteo Sisti Sette a ?crit :
Frank wrote:
> It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music
> sound good.
That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one of
them.
>
> sorry, I might going to be rude,
>
> but I've never heard some musi
I'm really asking about the use of puredata, what places could it have in the
sound process,
for the moment it is very good for making some noises or fx processing, and so
cool for driving openGl or sdl.
But I'd like to put this software at a more important place, like mixing all
intruments, s
There is little doubt that dance music dominates popular music, and has
done so for eternity, but it certainly does not encompass all that is
"good music".
Just because you feel the urge to move your body to music that is not
dance-centric, i.e., you rock to Beethoven, or Liszt, or Charlie Par
thank you for those pieces,
this show what pd is good for, electroacoustic music...
I'd like to ask you about the first one called 'Makeitmakeitmakeit'
are cymbals pd made?
also why there is no structure, did you make this choice by your own, or did
the tools
you've used where too limited t
hi
Right. There is [vsnapshot~], which does something similar, though it's
> not truely converting from audio domain to message domain, since only
> the resulting value is taken from the audio domain, whereas the timing
> still comes from the message domain. From what I know, the message comes
>
ypatios escribió:
There is [vsnapshot~] [...]
>> From what I know, the message comes one block late.
but you can bang vsnapshot~ faster than the block rate and it seems it
works fine. so there must be no one-block delay.
I don't know whether the messages come a block later or not, but the
what if a timer between bang and vsnapshot's reaction shows 0?
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what if a timer between bang and vsnapshot's reaction shows 0?
I'm not sure whether this proves or disproves the one-block-delay
hypothesis. Experts of the insides of how Pd's data/dsp processing loop
works can certainly answer on that - and I'm very curious too
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Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
> Hey Jack,
>
>
> You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
> 07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it
> like you regularly do.
Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand] (wi
Hello Jaime,
I would like to use your Mano Controller, but encounter some problems.
I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the [pix_hand] object.
However, when i try to open main.pd (from /hand/track), i get in Pd
console :
/home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux:
/home
uh I missed roman inputs, fortunately there are the archives
"
Are you implying there was no dance music since the 80's? How bad will
actual 'best technologies' will be in a few years? Is that a discussion
about certain aesthethics you're looking for or about technical
possibilities?
"
I took d
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 12:53 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> >> show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
> > That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
> >
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> To sum it up, in most cases exact timing can be achieved, but the exact
> timing for the phase reset is _really_ missing (and is actually
> essential).
Well, Mike's version for a clock-accurate phasor~ clone actually is
pretty good a
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 03:19:50PM +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> segmented and curvy cords comes with another patching design,
> like in maxMSP where almost all the time the messages order doesn't have an
> importance.
Huh? Maybe in Max there is no difference between x-y and y-x?
Ci
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 02:18:17PM +0200, olsen wrote:
> ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too: in german
> there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der
> badehose"
I didn't know this one, it's very good. As we've started the quoting
business, I recentl
Hey List.
Just came across Zen Garden:
http://wiki.github.com/mhroth/ZenGarden/
Seems like the RJDJ crew is re-implementing PD in C++, in it's full
object-oriented glory.
I'm excited about the idea of a more object-oriented approach, and
especially with the idea of ditching all the Tk/Tcl garba
>
> > I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are
> > you using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but
> > can't remember what version i have in my linux box.
> Pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
>
could you try vanilla and gem alone?
J
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Lorenzo wrote:
- Switch to some other greater, uhm.. smother :), software
Wait, what is this thread about :
[A] make Pd smoother
[B] make Pd smother
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can someone tell me if one instance of pd (with gem) can use more than
one core on multi-core processor?
Beyond the new stuff with [pd~], there is also threading in
new versions of [soundfiler], and there is some threading in the
input/output modules of GEM, such as cameras.
There is also
Hey Jack,
You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the 07-apr-10-current
folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it like you regularly do.
about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and you can put it
in the extra folder or make a path to ../externals/best_match/
Oth
>without a good media, we can't get good results
Guess my point wasnt clear yet. I'm saying every media has its potential,
there's no "good" or "bad", anything can be best applied for some purpose,
even a "shitty" clarinet... it can produce sounds irregularly and with
spectral content that other c
I just opened the patch you sent me and have no problems...
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> mmh,
>
> I've never gotten that.
> are you in 64 bit?
>
> the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480 and it
> is just too much.
>
> what happens if you open
On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:45 AM, András Murányi wrote:
Hello Honki,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki wrote:
hi,
i am honki.
i do some designs about puredata.
illustration:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
gui:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4522863658/
On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote :
IMHO, the best plan going forward for all these great network
objects would to make them a standalone library based on externals/
template.
Instead of talking like that, can you just state your agenda abo
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:43 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
> mmh,
>
>
> I've never gotten that.
> are you in 64 bit?
No 32. Ubuntu 9.10, pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
>
>
> the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480
> and it is just too much.
But i don't use
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM, red honki wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> i am honki.
>> i do some designs about puredata.
>>
>> illustration:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/sets/72157607652279654/
>>
>> gui:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/honki/4522863658/
>>
>>
> The designs are cool!
> I just
Thanks for the mac support - nice stuff! :)
Thanks to Patrick Boivin for his work on better OSX support, and on making
packages for OSX and Ubuntu.
For the upcoming version, 9.9, there is another wave of additional OSX
support, which is still not going to be as much supported as Ubuntu but
>From: colet.patr...@free.fr
>
>sorry, I might going to be rude,
>
>but I've never heard some music completely made with PureData that really
>sound good.
>From: hard@gmail.com
>
>just uploaded 2 vanilla workouts. these are not tracks. just me jamming in
>the staffroom of the school where i
"(sorry to continue this thread)
Matt"
By the way, I am Really sorry too... please forgive me.
alex
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
"mixing"?
Interesting, I was more concerned by the use of the word « corre
I have to leave right now.
I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are you
using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but can't
remember what version i have in my linux box.
I also know i am using 64 bit, but that shouldn't be a problem if you're
compil
Hey Jaime
i can only talk for me ;-) I like it a lotthe MANO controller.
And its just one object ???
Very cool work... please organize concerts in europe, or better germany
Thumbs up
ciao luigi
Am 16.04.2010 um 23:46 schrieb pd-list-requ...@iem.at:
> hello everyone,
>
>>>
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 19:24 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> uh I missed roman inputs, fortunately there are the archives
>
> "
> Are you implying there was no dance music since the 80's? How bad will
> actual 'best technologies' will be in a few years? Is that a discussion
> about certain a
Thanks, Frank, for mentioning it again and confirming that it works.
I'll definitely check this one out.
Also many thanks to Mike who provided the patch.
Roman
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 20:19 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > To sum it
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:59 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
> I have to leave right now.
OK.
>
>
> I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are
> you using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but
> can't remember what version i have in my linux box.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> there is some threading in the input/output modules of GEM, such as
> cameras.
>
Could someone say a little bit more about this?
J
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Jaime Oliver wrote:
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
there is some threading in the input/output modules of GEM, such as
cameras.
Could someone say a little bit more about this?
yeah, but *which* little bit more do you want ?
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Hey Luigi,
It is only one object that does the tracking. there is another one to
achieve continuity between the variables and across frames. (i.e. to know
that a finger in one frame is the same finger in the next frame...)
other than those two objects, it is all vanilla pd and latest gem.
>
> Ve
What do you mean by "some threading". I am particularly interested in the
input modules (cameras), but in general to know what threading is being
accomplished there. perhaps a general blurb of where and how is this being
accomplished in gem.
furthermore, and this is a general question.
If there we
mmh,
I've never gotten that.
are you in 64 bit?
the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480 and it
is just too much.
what happens if you open a blank patch and create a pix_hand object?
J
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jack wrote:
> Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:1
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Jaime Oliver wrote:
What do you mean by "some threading". I am particularly interested in
the input modules (cameras),
pthread is used in [pix_film], [pix_image], [pix_movie], and also in the
V4L, V4L2 and DV4L modules of [pix_video]. Pthreads may also be used
implicitly
thanks...
J
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "some threading". I am particularly interested in the
>> input modules (cameras),
>>
>
> pthread is used in [pix_film], [pix_image], [pix_movie], and also in th
In every field of art and also in apllied arts, the aesthetics is always
related to the means of production available. This is true for music, for
achitecture and even for industrial design.
Let's take the concrete, for example. Some of the early architecture
produced with concrete, was attempts t
I apoligize for the perhaps poor choice of words. I wasn't bashing tcl in
general, but only meant that there seems to be a fairly large sentiment that it
doesn't belong in the interface between client and server processes.
-s
On Apr 16, 2010 9:02 PM, errordevelo...@gmail.com
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Ariane stolfi
wrote:
From: Ariane stolfi
Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS:
Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
To: colet.patr...@free.fr
Cc:
"pd-list" , reduzie...@yahoo.de
Date: Saturday,
April 17, 2010, 1:49 AM
In every field
of art and also in apllied arts, the aesthetic
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
From: Jonathan Wilkes
Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
To: colet.patr...@free.fr, "Ariane stolfi"
Cc: "pd-list" , reduzie...@yahoo.de
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:30 AM
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Ariane stolfi
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Spencer Russell wrote:
I'm excited about the idea of a more object-oriented approach,
Pd's implementation was made with an object-oriented approach. You can't
get much more object-oriented than that. If you mean that the
object-oriented approach has been implemented usin
I've been complaining that we should be able to use "$0" in messages for
the sake of simplicity. Apparently you can if you use "\" before it...
BUT... Pd does not allow you to write it... as if it REALLY did not want
you to do it...
there are many things wrong with the backslash. if i put 92
so, is it a random bug? I thought it was on purpose... because of the no
"$0" on messages philosophy...
more on that, if you type $0 in a sumbol box, the backlash appears there...
if the message is sent through this symbol box, the $0 can actually function
as it should on messages...
cheers
2010
>if i put 92 through [makefilename %c]
oh, 44 gives back wierd stuff too "\\,"
2010/4/17 Mathieu Bouchard
>
> I've been complaining that we should be able to use "$0" in messages for
>> the sake of simplicity. Apparently you can if you use "\" before it...
>> BUT... Pd does not allow you to wr
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