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On 06/20/2011 01:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ingo,
thanks
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:05:01 +0200
Ingo i...@miamiwave.com wrote:
BTW these take years of practicing!
Its an important point IMO. One cannot invent
a new instrument or style without becoming proficient.
You have to stand as an example to what is possible
and it takes a long time.
Many
Sorry Marco,
but I can see that you have never played jazz!
Marco,
Unfortunately not Ingo. Would love to.
I play regularly electroacoustic free improv.
So perphaps we are talking a different language?
Definitely!
Could you elaborate your answer?
If I'm missing something about the
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On 2011-06-20 22:01, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Any idea?
you might want to get the SVN-version of 0.92 [1], which has all these
bugs fixed.
this SVN branch is really only a bug-fixing branch, so it is quite safe
to use it (rather than the
Marco's disappointment is understandable (sorry if I
misinterpret this Marco). When I watched Top of the pops
as a teenager, like many kids of that age I was outraged
that the performers mimed. Sometimes you could see their
instruments were just props.
It is amazing that even most poeple in
i think ftgl and libfreetype should be removed from the binary
On 6/21/11, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
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On 2011-06-20 23:53, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Ah, yes, I have fink installed and use it for Pd builds. I included
FTGL
I think it's a shame that in this day and age we are still promoting the
concept of high and low culture and so protective of peoples narrow
definition of what Pd is and for.
I do a fair amount of improv with Pd and it's a hell of a simpler gig
playing to 18 chin-scratching middle class people
Hi,
I've found out that Pd takes a lot longer to load big patches when run
without the -realtime option (or if you prefer, it is a lot faster in
loading patches if run with the -realtime option). A lot means an
order of magnitude and a half.
This is on Linux. Does this happen on Mac too?
I
hi list,
i have a patch window with a (big) image, using günther geigers image
external (win xp), and with some data structures. using the clear message for
the window a couple of times and then reloading the image (between 10 and 25
times of clearing and reloading), it doesn't load anymore.
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On 2011-06-21 11:43, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
I guess this is because realtime gives it a higher overall priority, but
I wouldn't expect this to affect the loading of patches, would you? I
no, i wouldn't have guessed that either.
don't know if
glad the provocation went through.
You also used that word when posting an unrelated url on LinkedIn today.
Seems to be a mood that you are in.
sorry Mathieu, don't know what you are talking about. I even checked my
Linkedin and there's no provocation in there.
You might be confused with
In TED performance we see how interfaces would be used to interpret
electronic music, unfortunately the player doesn't seem to have a lot of
culture in electronic music, but maybe someone else with a lot more
experience and knowledge would show a performance like great improvisators
we know,
I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all
kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the
audience has of the performance.
[snip]
It's great how you explain simple problems..
thanks :)
--
Marco Donnarumma
Independent New Media and Sonic Arts
Well, I really don't know why there is a reason fort he audience to know
what is going on.
They do not need to know. They want to know.
The performer and audience seek an emotional relationship.
Maybe Kraftwerk have already answered this, but if at the end of
the TED performance they
What I have seen on your videos is very good and interesting but has
absolutely nothing to do with jazz - obviously!
Obviously not, I believe the two thing to be not even comparable because
deeply different in terms of creative outcome and perspective.
When playing jazz
[snip]
In case
Onyx,
I really appreciate you chiming in here! I just happened to read your blog
after I wrote what I've described to the pd-list what you are doing with
your controller. Luckily I was 100% right.
I have been thinking about a controller very similar to your's since several
years. I know exactly
I dare someone to show me something more entertaining than that built around
pure data and pduino.
Greg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Ingo i...@miamiwave.com wrote:
Onyx,
I really appreciate you chiming in here! I just happened to read your blog
after I wrote what I've described to the
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a horn
player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly into
an arrangement then deconstruct and reconstruct on a musically relevant
trajectory. There was
Hey List,
(I've been looking at what Onyx does with his BeatJazz. This annoyingly cool
and exciting.)
One simple question about arduino : can I use more than one board on the
same computer? If I can, is there any drawback (slower speed, etc.)?
Another question : do you think that using a
Tee hee
Welcome to the list Onyx, and well done for cracking open yet another
super-juicy can'o'worms for the list to chew on.
Props,
Jb
On 21 June 2011 13:10, Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com wrote:
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being
nice update, thks
a few suggestions :
in the exemple section
basic create, +turn on renderering
+turn off rendering, destroy window
in [pd more window properties]
+ [border $1 border 0/1 create a window with/out borders
+ [create remotehost:8.0 when using X-windows, you can also create a
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
It's not about having cables or not, it's about claiming to have
discovered the future. quote from his video read we MAKE the future.
Ah, well, when you were complaining about the cables, you see, I thought
you were talking about the cables.
It
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, J bz wrote:
Welcome to the list Onyx, and well done for cracking open yet another
super-juicy can'o'worms for the list to chew on.
Worms are quite nourishing : they are a tremendous source of proteins.
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote:
Marco's disappointment is understandable (sorry if I misinterpret this
Marco). When I watched Top of the pops as a teenager, like many kids
of that age I was outraged that the performers mimed. Sometimes you
could see their instruments were just props.
Hi,
On Mac OS, pix_film seems to ignore the alpha channel of videos encoded
with the Apple Animation codec. It works fine on Linux (same patch, same
video files), but on Mac OS transparent pixels are displayed as opaque
black.
I have already sent [pix_film] the colorspace RGBA message.
Is
On 06/21/2011 03:16 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
I have already sent [pix_film] the colorspace RGBA message.
No I hadn't :$:$:$:$ sorry for the noise
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welcome to the list onyx,
i liked your performance, and commend you for getting exposure for it.
my only question is, how annoying must it be to get asked to play Throw Ya
Guns at every gig ;)
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, J bz wrote:
I think it's a shame that in this day and age we are still promoting the
concept of high and low culture and so protective of peoples narrow
definition of what Pd is and for.
Reminds me of the idea that a social problem can't be solved by
technological
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
On Mac OS, pix_film seems to ignore the alpha channel of videos encoded
with the Apple Animation codec. It works fine on Linux (same patch, same
video files), but on Mac OS transparent pixels are displayed as opaque
black. I have already sent
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Mirko Maier wrote:
i have a patch window with a (big) image, using günther geigers image
external (win xp), and with some data structures. using the clear
message for the window a couple of times and then reloading the image
(between 10 and 25 times of clearing and
hi,
i need to track a dancer to project and map videos on him (one of the
video is a human body on a black background).
I am trying the kinect at the moment thinking first that it would be
the easiest solution because it has the infrared camera and no need of
infrared light. So, I have made a
Perhaps look at the pix_/pdp opencv libraries, they might help you more
pp
On 6/21/11 10:28 AM, manecante maneca...@googlemail.com wrote:
hi,
i need to track a dancer to project and map videos on him (one of the
video is a human body on a black background).
I am trying the kinect at the moment
2011/6/21 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Mirko Maier wrote:
i have a patch window with a (big) image, using günther geigers image
external (win xp), and with some data structures. using the clear message
for the window a couple of times and then reloading the image
Hi list,
I have a serious issue with a patch that loads and displays images and films
sequentially in a loop of about 5 min.
Everything works fine, but after two hours, we got blank screen and Pd says :
[pix_image] : Unable to find file ...
The path displayed is always the correct one, so the
LOL KLF. period. enuff said!.
I don't think you're in danger of going OT, the authenticity
thing is right at the heart of this worm feast isn't it?
If Onyx Ashanti's showed up to make a good defence of performance
authenticity, there's actually a danger of constructive debate :)
We laugh at
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
That's why, conceptually, my favourite two performances are XTC's Making
Plans for Nigel, in which they made a point of hitting a gong that doesn't
sound like one,
IIRC there was a similar thing with Vince
hi,
i need to track a dancer to project and map videos on him (one of the
video is a human body on a black background).
I am trying the kinect at the moment thinking first that it would be
the easiest solution because it has the infrared camera and no need of
infrared light. So, I have
Hi list
A link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
cheers
JmA
Le 21 juin 11 à 17:33, Andy Farnell a écrit :
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
That's why, conceptually, my
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On 2011-06-21 17:36, david lemarechal wrote:
Is this a bug of pix_image ? Is there a limit of opened files somewhere ?
How can I avoid that ?
it's a bug in Pd, that has been fixed with 0.43
unfortunately, Gem will also have to adapt to the fix
To loosely echo my favourite cowboy philosopher Rick Roderick:
If you have an ideology the people most dangerous are those
close to you with similar ideas, because they might hold you
to your own values. ( it's a great gift to those in the business of
divide and conquer that minor differences
Awesome. Thanks Hans!
P
2011/6/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Multiple arduinos is no problem. I suppose they would start to slow each
other down if you had like 10+, but for 3 I don't think its an issue. If
you want low jitter, reliable connection, go with wireless.
.hc
On
Multiple arduinos is no problem. I suppose they would start to slow
each other down if you had like 10+, but for 3 I don't think its an
issue. If you want low jitter, reliable connection, go with wireless.
.hc
On Jun 21, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Hey List,
(I've been
I just fixed the linking. Budi, its pretty easy to do, if you use
Fink for libfreenect and libusb, then I can give you a script with
makes the /Library/pd/fux_kinect package. Its the same as the one for
readanysf~
.hc
On Jun 21, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Budi Prakosa wrote:
i think ftgl and
On 06/21/2011 03:58 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
I think I recall that you can get it with GridFlow,
Never mind, it was my fault, I wasn't setting the colorspace correctly.
Since in linux it worked (because the colorspace is already RGBA by
default) I assumed the patch was OK and didn't
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
What's a « technological parody » ?
It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do
Oh my god that's bad news... How many files is the limit?
Do text files opened with [textfiles] also count?
On 06/21/2011 06:43 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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On 2011-06-21 17:36, david lemarechal wrote:
Is this a bug of pix_image ? Is there a
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:08:48 -0500
Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote:
2. an unwarranted degree of specialization or wasteful usage of hardware
Anybody else got one?
Chuck
Kind of. How about a computer marketed as
a intuitive people's communication tool
that took me 35 festering
As Ingo said in a PM to me (sorry my bad on the cc Ingo),
Ooops! That wasn't ment to be a private mail. I thought I had it sent to the
pd-list, also. I guess I pushed the wrong button! Sorry!
Ingo
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Jean-Marie Adrien j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
Hi list
A link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
cheers
Thanks for sharing this.
I loved the starting remarks on connecting,
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:10:00 +0200
Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com wrote:
If that sounds like it is hard to do,
you're right.
How long did you practice with that arrangement
of controllers Onyx?
Did you become human cyborg unit six of seven, tertiary adjunct of unimatrix
twelve-O-five?
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:12 +1000
Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
We could look at TED as a kind of media
iceberg. The ideas showcased may often be
interesting but the substance of
their presentation is often lacking,
Seems a fair and insightful point. TED is populist.
The
Hi,
The limit seems to be 1024.
However I think I fixed the problem using [pix_buffer] for all the image I
need to load a lot of times.
Thanks.
David
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Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
Is it bleeding or is that just something said from the perspective of
innocence, as if in a previous world, logic would have been complete ?
If a complete and consistent self-referential logic system is
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On 06/21/2011 07:11 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Oh my god that's bad news... How many files is the limit?
dunno, probably depends on your system
Do text files opened with [textfiles] also count?
no.
the problem is, that pd and an external
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
What's a « technological parody »
Hello,
Gangplank is a nomadic workshop involving independant/freelance European
artists and technicians from the dance/theatre/performing arts scene,
sharing a common interest for the shift happening in dramaturgy due to
the rise of digital tools, removal of hierarchy, free culture as well as
Has someone already made a PPA for libpd?
If not, I might have a go.
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I think it is super nice that Onyx joined the list and explained himself his
device.
Still in the subject of performance authenticity and validation of
performance... and also about audience/performer...
Onyx, do you think that perhaps all these questions that were raised about
what exactly you
Sorry to make you repeat yourself if it wasn't a typo Hans, but did you say
if you want low jitter, reliable connection, go with wireless? This sounds
counter-intuitive to me and I'm interested in the answer
Thanks,
Tyler
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
I haven't seen one, I say go!
.hc
On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:26 PM, august wrote:
Has someone already made a PPA for libpd?
If not, I might have a go.
-august.
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Ha, yes, thanks for catching that. go with WIRES! :-D
.hc
On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote:
Sorry to make you repeat yourself if it wasn't a typo Hans, but did
you say if you want low jitter, reliable connection, go with
wireless? This sounds counter-intuitive to me and
Is there a version number for libpd?
I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
should I use pdlib git repo or aalexs repo?
I haven't seen one, I say go!
.hc
On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:26 PM, august wrote:
Has someone already made a PPA
could you send me the script? thanks
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
I just fixed the linking. Budi, its pretty easy to do, if you use Fink for
libfreenect and libusb, then I can give you a script with makes the
/Library/pd/fux_kinect package.
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