Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-23 Thread hard off
hmm, still happens here. no big problem though, i guess. it would be better to find the source of that pd_vmess error, even though it doesn't really seem to do anything much,. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http:

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 23, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 23/05/2008, at 10.30, hard off wrote: > >> if you have a nested abstraction, and edit that abstraction, >> then closing the parent window without saving disables the 'quit pd- >> extended' option in the menubar. > > Hmm. I can't reproduce.

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-23 Thread Steffen Juul
On 23/05/2008, at 10.30, hard off wrote: > if you have a nested abstraction, and edit that abstraction, > then closing the parent window without saving disables the 'quit pd- > extended' option in the menubar. Hmm. I can't reproduce. Pd-extended 0.40.3 22th of May edition.

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread Steffen Juul
On 22/05/2008, at 17.19, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Mac OS X 10.4.11 using Pd-extended v 0.40.3-20080522, I cannot > reproduce that. same here. But i got: - /path/to/pdlua/src/lua.pd_darwin: dlopen(/path/to/pdlua/src/ lua.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _garray_getfloatwords

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mac OS X 10.4.11 using Pd-extended v 0.40.3-20080522, I cannot reproduce that. All of the various ways to quit Pd-extended worked for me. .hc On May 22, 2008, at 4:08 PM, hard off wrote: another small glitch on macintel, 'quit pd extended' only works by closing the console window, b

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread hard off
another small glitch on macintel, 'quit pd extended' only works by closing the console window, but doesn't work from the menu at the top of the screen. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/list

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-21 Thread Achim Bornhoeft
I had to switch to a current nightly-build because the pd-extended 0.39.3 is not willing ot work without clicks with jack and my old mbox under os 10.4.8. Compared to the older release all movements and draggings of objects (especially GUI an GOP objects) are clearly slower. When the CPU load e

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I forgot to mention, on my old G4 800 PowerBook, everything ran much faster and smoother running Debian than running Mac OS X. It was really a big difference between the two. I recommend trying Ubuntu or Debian on your old G4. Pd runs better on GNU/Linux anyhow. .hc On May 21, 2008, at

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Well, it seems that the new look is slower. I think it should be possible to speed things up, but not for this release. I've used this version a bit on a G4 867 and didn't see a big difference, do you have any specific details? .hc On May 21, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Achim Bornhoeft wrote: >

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is one now, the Mac/Intel machine seems to be a little testy, so I need to massage it now and then. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-05-21/ I think I sorted out the import/declare stuff, I am committing that now. So I hope people will test it tomorrow. .hc On May 21

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread hard off
now i have a completely different problem: there have been no autobuilds for intel mac in the last couple of days. the last one was on the 18th of may. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/lis

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 20, 2008, at 7:33 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> It turns out that IOhannes deleted these aliases, they were in the >> flatspace library. > > it turns out that georg has implemented an alias system which > should be used with zexy. Hmm, I guess it wa

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > It turns out that IOhannes deleted these aliases, they were in the > flatspace library. it turns out that georg has implemented an alias system which should be used with zexy. > I restored them: i thought flatspace was abandoned? having zexy's [list2symbol]

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It turns out that IOhannes deleted these aliases, they were in the flatspace library. I restored them: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data? view=rev&revision=9858 .hc On May 20, 2008, at 1:48 PM, hard off wrote: well, if alias's and the zexy objects don't work, then i

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread hard off
well, if alias's and the zexy objects don't work, then i don't think you should release this, because it will break compatibility with a lot of old patches created in 0.39 i dont know how to fix those things, but recently i was given 30 uk pounds for helping someone with pd university homework so

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am sure it's possible, it is just that no one has done the work to make it possible. I don't use aliases myself, so I couldn't tell you what might have changed there. .hc On May 20, 2008, at 12:38 AM, hard off wrote: [l2s] used to work fine in 0.39 extended, you sure it's not possibl

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread hard off
[l2s] used to work fine in 0.39 extended, you sure it's not possible to get alias's working? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 19, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On May 17, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> Hey all, >> I've been fixin

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Dan Wilcox
I have noticed this in older patches using mux as well. When I upgraded to 0.40.3 those objects were borken, although once I renamed them to multiplex, everything is fine. On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 03:31 +0900, hard off wrote: > more zexy troubles: > > [l2s] doesn't work, unless a [list2symbol] obj

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Enrique Erne wrote: > should i file a bugreport for... uhm.. > expr or 0x3c0x7e.pd ? for the hexloader fgmadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks, I am glad you like it. The design was a group effort, though I suppose I did almost all of the coding. My aim was to make it easier to read patches. Hopefully I acheived that goal without breaking things in the process. .hc On May 19, 2008, at 2:27 PM, hard off wrote: by the

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, I get that too, but I haven't found the source, and it doesn't seem to cause any problems. .hc On May 18, 2008, at 8:34 PM, hard off wrote: next error: i keep getting messages "pd_vmess: only 5 allowed" when opening subpatches ---

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Aliases currently aren't supported in Pd-extended. You have to use the real objectclass name, in this case "list2symbol". .hc On May 18, 2008, at 8:31 PM, hard off wrote: more zexy troubles: [l2s] doesn't work, unless a [list2symbol] object is created first. i made a patch with a single

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's due to the troubles with the hexloader. I just reopened the bug report: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1637460&group_id=55736&atid=478070 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-05/011653.html .hc On May 18, 2008, at 7:57 PM, hard off wrote: o

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On May 17, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Hey all, > I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the > P

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread hard off
by the way, it looks really fantastic now. hans, the work you did on the fonts etc, has been really worthwhile. big ups! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Jack
Le 18 mai 08 à 19:57, hard off a écrit : > on my 10.4 intel mac, the zexy [>~ ], [<~ ], [&&~ ], [||~],[==~] > objects aren't working. Same thing here on 10.4.11 PowerBook G4. Enter 'zexy' before like [zexy/>~] doesn't work too. ++ Jack > > > other objects in zexy (such as [abs~], [msgfile],

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread hard off
next error: i keep getting messages "pd_vmess: only 5 allowed" when opening subpatches ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread hard off
more zexy troubles: [l2s] doesn't work, unless a [list2symbol] object is created first. i made a patch with a single l2s object in it, and the object cannot be created when i load the patch. a patch with a single [list2symbol] object loads fine. a patch with a single [list2symbol] object create

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread hard off
on my 10.4 intel mac, the zexy [>~ ], [<~ ], [&&~ ], [||~],[==~] objects aren't working. other objects in zexy (such as [abs~], [msgfile], etc) work fine. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/l

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 17, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the Pd- extended 0.40.3 release. It's g

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas ranked into of difficulty: - file a bug report when a help patch is not working - write and improve help patches, and submit them to the patch tracker - add a search pane to the help panel - help design and code a library format th

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Rich E
Working here too. Thanks, again it looks great! I wanted to mention that one of the most intimidating things for me when I was first learning about all the externals in pd is that nothing was working by default and I didn't know how to get it working. Pd-extended has come a long way since then,

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the Pd- >>> extended 0.40.3 release. It's getting pretty much ready, so please >>> test it heav

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 15, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Rich E wrote: The May 9th build doesn't have the same problem. I've also tried the newest nightly build on both Gutsy and Hardy, they have the same "stacksmashing" error. Today's build gets rid of the stacksmashing error (for me at least). Please test! :D

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 13, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 13/05/2008, at 20.09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> 1) at the moment if one modifies the preferences of i.e. vanilla pd >>> the pd-extended looses all path and startup preferences

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, It's great that you are stepping up and starting to work in the SVN. There is a very important rule to observe when doing this: if you are going to commit a file that you are not the original creator of, always ask the original creator if that is ok! This is essential to preventi

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Flext isn't part of the automatic builds, that is why they are not included. .hc On May 15, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Rich E wrote: I also noticed that [fluid~] and [pool] are missing. Is this because of flext? These are two of the most used externals that a regularly have to make from source

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-15 Thread Rich E
So I have my svn copy fixed now, but I can't commit any changes. I requested/received dev privileges, but I don't know if that carried over to the svn switch. Anywho, I found a couple more libraries that aren't included in the loadlib section of the default.pdsettings and for now I am just listin

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-14 Thread Rich E
I also noticed that [fluid~] and [pool] are missing. Is this because of flext? These are two of the most used externals that a regularly have to make from source, yet they are built fairly easily. Just wondering why they aren't in pd-extended (but the help files are). On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-14 Thread Rich E
The May 9th build doesn't have the same problem. I've also tried the newest nightly build on both Gutsy and Hardy, they have the same "stacksmashing" error. So now that I've ben searching around in the new Pd-extended, here are some things I noticed: - The new hotkeys (clear console, open help b

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds! (Windows)

2008-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Oops, thanks for catching that, that was a mistake on my part. I just committed a fix. .hc On May 14, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Hans, on Windows 0.39.3 you could [ctr] [click] to change values while in edit mode. That made working and checking quite fast. Now it o

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > You can now file bug reports from the Help menu in Pd-extended. > Please file a bug report for this. i cannot: "/usr/bin/gnome-open 'http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=55736&atid=478070' Error showing url: There was an error launching the defaul

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds! (Windows)

2008-05-13 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hans, on Windows 0.39.3 you could [ctr] [click] to change values while in edit mode. That made working and checking quite fast. Now it only opens a context menue which is already there if you [rightclick]. Please put it back to the old behaviour. This would also make sense on Linux in my opi

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Steffen Juul
On 13/05/2008, at 20.09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: >> 1) at the moment if one modifies the preferences of i.e. vanilla pd >> the pd-extended looses all path and startup preferences (this is on >> osx i don't know about win or linux). >> >>

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 13, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> Hey all, >> I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the >> Pd- extended 0.40.3 release. It's getting pretty much ready, so >> please test it heavily so we can find any outstanding bugs

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just my luck, I made an announcement and break things at the same time :D. I was only testing builds on my own machine. I did some testing, this build seems to work for me, and I'll work on fixing this crash now: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-05-09/ .hc On May 13, 20

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Let's keep this on the list, since it's a generally useful discussion. I think it's something like this with Debian packages: mkdir /tmp/pd dpkg -x /path/to/Pd-extended.deb /tmp/pd cd /tmp/pd/usr/bin/ ./pd Or since they are regular packages, you can easily install the new one, test it, then

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the Pd- > extended 0.40.3 release. It's getting pretty much ready, so please > test it heavily so we can find any outstanding bugs! > > Jack just pointed out that pdp on Mac OS X/PowerPC

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread Rich E
> hmm, does it work if you start it with "pd -noprefs"? > i would suspect the problem to be in the "libdir" loader. > Pd will start this way, but if I do just about anything, it will show similar errors. For instance, I got this error message when I rightclicked-help on the number box (and might I

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Rich E wrote: > > Not good results; pd terminates immediately as fallows: hmm, does it work if you start it with "pd -noprefs"? i would suspect the problem to be in the "libdir" loader. mfgafrt IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE an

Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-12 Thread Rich E
I just tried installing Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080512-ubuntu-hardy-i386.debon a fresh install of Ubuntu Hardy, running the rt kernel. Well, almost fresh; I installed all the packages for compiling Ard

[PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I've been fixing quite a lot of bugs in preparation of making the Pd- extended 0.40.3 release. It's getting pretty much ready, so please test it heavily so we can find any outstanding bugs! Jack just pointed out that pdp on Mac OS X/PowerPC is having problems loading videos, and i