Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > But you type the same with both layouts. To not have to type the prefix, > you just add the "prefix" directory directly to your path with a pd-path > setting, declare, import or whatever. The issue of help files not being > found is not related to that

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Rich E wrote: > > > >> Both layout 1 and 2 would be nice to have, for different situations. > >> > > > > i would be interested in the situations where layout 2 wou

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread Rich E
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich E wrote: > >> Both layout 1 and 2 would be nice to have, for different situations. >> > > i would be interested in the situations where layout 2 would be nice to > have. > i don't see any. > For the same reaso

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Rich E wrote: > Both layout 1 and 2 would be nice to have, for different situations. i would be interested in the situations where layout 2 would be nice to have. i don't see any. mgsdf IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-21 Thread Rich E
Both layout 1 and 2 would be nice to have, for different situations. Concerning patches that are included in pd extended, it seems best to use layout 1 that you mention, which is compatible on everyone's system, as of right now. [declare]/[import] seems like something for personal patches, where s

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Pd-extended did not introduce namespace prefixes, Miller did that > probably before I even heard of Pd. Pd-extended is just organized > around that idea. Pd-vanilla fully supports namespace prefixes. I > don't kn

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 20, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > >> Frank Barknecht wrote: >> >>> It's a packaging problem, you can do nothing about it. >> >> you can help the packager solve the problem. > > But not by changing the h

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > It's a packaging problem, you can do nothing about it. > > you can help the packager solve the problem. But not by changing the help file or the object itself, only by changing the packaging or

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: > It's a packaging problem, you can do nothing about it. you can help the packager solve the problem. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Martin Peach hat gesagt: // Martin Peach wrote: > I open it manually it won't make [tcpclient] either. So I'm just > wondering what I can do about that... It's a packaging problem, you can do nothing about it. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 19, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Martin Peach wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On May 18, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> Ha

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Martin Peach
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On May 18, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> i'm not a developer

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Steffen Juul
On 18/05/2008, at 12.16, Roman Haefeli wrote: > i don't see a benefit in having to tell _in_ a help-file where to find > the class. I agree. And the same goes for the other way around. That would be very good for giving the help browser a bash, especially (dynamically creation of) the refer

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 18, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: >> Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare >> i

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 18, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas ranked into of difficulty: - file a bug report whe

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 18, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Rich E wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas >> ranked into

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Enrique Erne
Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd then it would work with pd vanilla too. >>> The declare/namespace/i

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas ranked >>> into of difficulty: >>> - file a bug report when a help patch is not working >>> - write and improve

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 02:30 -0700, Rich E wrote: > > > > Personally, I would use namespace prefixes: > [mrpeach/packOSC]. > This will make more sense when there are libraries organized > around > concepts rather than authors. So something like [osc/packO

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 12:09 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: > > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > i'm not a developer but i would vote for declar

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare > i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd >

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-18 Thread Rich E
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas > >> ranked into of difficulty: > >> - file a bug report wh

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > >> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare > >> i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd > >> then it would work with pd vanilla too. > > > > The declare/namespace/import stuff is

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare >> i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd >> then it would work with pd vanilla too. > > The declare/namespace/import stuff is still very undefined, so I > think some experiementation would be good. I

Re: [PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas >> ranked into of difficulty: >> - file a bug report when a help patch is not working >> - write and improve help patches, and submit them to the pat

[PD] help files was: Re: call for testing on the nightly builds!

2008-05-17 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas ranked > into of difficulty: > > - file a bug report when a help patch is not working > - write and improve help patches, and submit them to the patch tracker is there a convention about how to make