Hi
the papers on http://www.klippel.de/pubs/papers.asp where quiet
interesting. But the page went down.
It looks like it went to:
http://www.klippel.de/nc/know-how/literature/papers.html?sword_list[0]=paper&sword_list[1]=speaker
Greetings
Am 16.10.2010 06:46, schrieb Martin Schied:
> Hi!
>
> I'm
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, - wrote:
By the way it is kind of sad that everyone (including me) always uses
tanh, while there are much much more functions out there which could be
better suited, produce less high harmonics (aliasing!) or just sound
better. A while ago I took a small dive into this top
Hi Mathieu -
again, sorry for the big delay. I was a bit busy the past 2 weeks.
On 22.10.2010 07:35, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
Isn't the heat proportional to the mean power ? Then you just
do [*~] with itself and then some kind of [rpole~] to a
On 22.10.2010 06:05, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
I wanted to use a fairly high a < 1 because then the phase for all
frequencies is approximately 90° off like for the ideal a=1. Using
slightly smaller factors and comparing input / output didn't satisfy
my
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
Isn't the heat proportional to the mean power ? Then you just do [*~]
with itself and then some kind of [rpole~] to account for the
accumulation thereof. After that I don't really know what to do with that.
one could feed the output of thi
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
I wanted to use a fairly high a < 1 because then the phase for all
frequencies is approximately 90° off like for the ideal a=1. Using
slightly smaller factors and comparing input / output didn't satisfy my
expectations. maybe that would't matter at all
On 22.10.2010 03:10, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
yeah, but this is often the case when messing things up in pd. I
tried rpole~ 1 with sinewaves first which worked as integrator, but
already had different results for the output of rpole~ if the wave
start
Hi!
I agree with Martin Peach in most points and want to add some sentences.
On 22.10.2010 01:17, Martin Peach wrote:
A perfect speaker will reproduce the sound exactly by transforming the
instantaneous voltage to a displacement in or out. That's called
'compliance' in the speaker biz. The id
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
yeah, but this is often the case when messing things up in pd. I tried
rpole~ 1 with sinewaves first which worked as integrator, but already
had different results for the output of rpole~ if the wave started at 0
or pi/2 (which is logic, but I didn't t
Hi!
On 21.10.2010 07:17, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
It shouldn't be too hard to do this integration with basic pole /
zero objects. A problem using integration only is the lack of
mechanical damping. A real speaker goes back to x=0 if no signal is
pres
A perfect speaker will reproduce the sound exactly by transforming the
instantaneous voltage to a displacement in or out. That's called
'compliance' in the speaker biz. The ideal speaker has zero mass and is
totally rigid.
So nonlinearities will show up:
1> when the speaker is massive and can't
Hi!
Looking at power and air pressure - we don't have to care about them
as long as we don't want to include thermal effects
Isn't the heat proportional to the mean power ? Then you just do [*~]
with itself and then some kind of [rpole~] to account for the
accumulation thereof. After that
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
It shouldn't be too hard to do this integration with basic pole / zero
objects. A problem using integration only is the lack of mechanical
damping. A real speaker goes back to x=0 if no signal is present. A
simple integrator doesn't
right. That's why
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
The peak output voltage of the amplifier is equal for all frequencies
and defines the maximum acceleration the cone can experience. So we can
say the acceleration is
Alright, I should have thought about it. I mean, it's great that you wrote
it, and i
It shouldn't be too hard to do this integration with basic pole / zero
objects. A problem using integration only is the lack of mechanical
damping. A real speaker goes back to x=0 if no signal is present. A
simple integrator doesn't - so the 'simulated' cone would just fly
away slowly. So som
Hi!
Sorry for answering this late. And I was wrong in my last mail. The
signal doesn't have to be differentiated but integrated (like you
already did in your first post).?
The signal in pd represents the current flowing through the speaker's
coil (if we assume it isn't capacitive or inducti
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
using the first deviation as modulation should be more physically
correct but sounded very tinny and thin.
how do you compute that ?... how is the pressure wave supposed to relate
to the digital wave ? I don't expect it to be a 1:1 mapping... my
mech
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Pierre Massat wrote:
Sounds really cool with a guitar and with high gain (around 50). What's
nice is the change in the spectrum depending on the volume of the input.
But all waveshapers also do change the spectrum according to the volume
(except those that are linear, whi
really nice distortion. I just fed it a few drum loops and it sounds
very similar to drunken DJs at 5am...
I added a lop~ 200 before the modulation going into vd~ to reduce harsh
sounds a bit, emphasizes the nice "pow" sound for bassdrums.
using the first deviation as modulation should be mor
Sounds really cool with a guitar and with high gain (around 50). What's nice
is the change in the spectrum depending on the volume of the input.
Le 18 octobre 2010 20:13, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Pierre Massat wrote:
>
> This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did y
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Pierre Massat wrote:
This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did you do this with vd~?
C'est juste ça (en attachement). En fait, ma vraie patch est plus
complexe, mais j'essaye pas vraiment de reproduire le phénomène physique
de toute façon. Mes formules de vitesse s
This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did you do this with vd~?
2010/10/18 Mathieu Bouchard
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
>
> field) and also time variant (temperature) and modulation (doppler effect
>> / amplitude modulation) effects. I don't know which effects have a stron
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote:
field) and also time variant (temperature) and modulation (doppler
effect / amplitude modulation) effects. I don't know which effects have
a stronger or weaker influence,
for a sinewave, a peak of ±1 millimètre at 1 kiloHertz travels like
y = 0.001
Hi!
I'm no speaker modeling expert at all, but I can try to describe what
produces sounds in an overloaded speaker. There are various sources of
distortion, symmetrical (mechanic suspension) and asymmetrical (magnetic
field) and also time variant (temperature) and modulation (doppler
effect /
Thank you for your answer,
but as I wrote I don't want the sound of simple clipping like clip~,
tanh~ or overdrive~. I want the sound of a speaker crying for mercy
because you put just too much through it.
But I don't know where to start. I know there are complex distortion
effects, which are able
Hi,
does anyone know how to simulate the sound of an overdriven speaker? You
know the crunchy sound when you torture it with a strong bass. It's
nowhere near the sound of an normal overdrive with some kind of clipping.
Greetings
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