Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread Enrique Erne
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: - with self explaining naming? The problem with that is that long names still don't say how it works, and as people learn how it works, they don't need long names anymore, and it gets in the way a bit. What you need is not lon

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > How about this project: > Beginners Building Blocks. A lot of the goals you describe overlap with goals of the RjDj library, that the RjDj team (like Gunter Geiger, Amaury Hazan, Paul Brossier, myself and others) is working on. It's gen

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread hard off
i think this idea of making a unified library of patches is fantastic. but i don't think it should be a project given to a student with little experience in pd. i'd be more than happy to help out. what would be the best way to set up communications between us, if we take this on? that would be

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: - with self explaining naming? The problem with that is that long names still don't say how it works, and as people learn how it works, they don't need long names anymore, and it gets in the way a bit. What you need is not long names, it's a system so

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread Enrique Erne
hi Kyle i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?) BBB - Beginners Building Blocks WSP - (Where to Start with Pd) WSP - warm swimming pool :) for me the first step would be to write some specs: - coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention, howto contribute and also

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-13 Thread Hans Roels
In fact I'm working on a very similar project (called 'abunch') since a year, I hope to release it in one of the following weeks. Everything is in pd vanilla. I tried to make it as user friendly as possible, I've been testing and using it a lot in my lessons. It contains a lot of the units that

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-12 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks. Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece to

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application >>> is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, >>> you >>> j

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-08 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:30 AM, marius schebella wrote: > >> chris clepper wrote: >>> My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and >>> accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. >> >> I was planning to do this for years now, adding

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think we need to have a range of projects, from simple to complicated, so that we get a range of students. I would really like to have a solid, clean, easy to use blosc lib, so I think it would be worth it. Plus the devil is in the details on this one. Its not too hard to put togethe

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:30 AM, marius schebella wrote: > chris clepper wrote: >> My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and >> accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. > > I was planning to do this for years now, adding to dereks FLOSS > Documentation or just

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, sounds like a good project, add it to the wiki. Do you want to mentor it? Or if you are a student, then you could find another mentor and do it yourself. .hc On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:33 AM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: > The same with me. > > interested in coding but just very rare skills.but

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-08 Thread hard off
i just added a pd patching idea, to build a library of filters. i think this idea would also work really well if merged with the 'blosc' one, because frankly $4500 for a student to make some bandlimited oscillators is pretty expensive! http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PurePDFilters ___

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
sorry, the subject of the mail was : 'why should i collaborate with google?' not : 'why should i speak to señor bouchard?' right? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: hey you're almost as a bad as as me. I didn't want any of your mail, I don't want any of your mail, and I won't want any of your mail. that's all. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
oh sorry, have to add we had a good laugh with alexei shulguin once saying 'Google is GOD' i find it more accurate now xiaoo, sevy ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > ola, >> >> Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like >> both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, > > Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both > are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end. > hey you're almost as a bad as as me. i would say 'fuck off corporate google collaborating on censorship in china', and 'you're still in a me

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: what about MoreGUIs since that is kind of related to DD, isn't it? Due to the GUI API being used by that project proposal, no, it's probably less related to DD than most any other GSoC submission. I mean, it's negatively related, whereas other proposal

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Enrique Erne
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: >> how about LibPDEngine? :) > > That's not really related to anything I do. Well, I did a quick test of > making and using libpd.so in DD, but I didn't have any real use for this > in mind. is there any reason why you shouldn't

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Why should I add my name? you could be mentor for a project. I mean, why should I be mentor for a project? how about LibPDEngine? :) That's not really related to anything I do. Well, I did a quick test of making and using li

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Enrique Erne
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: > >> Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? > > Where should I be? > >> add your names, hurry! :) > > Why should I add my name? you could be mentor for a project. how about LibPDEngine? :)

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread marius schebella
chris clepper wrote: > My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and > accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. I was planning to do this for years now, adding to dereks FLOSS Documentation or just as a separate project. there are a lot of unsorted patches o

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Andy Farnell
Sorry for the silence, I am quite busy at the moment, but to explain the situation viz GSoC mentoring, Google unilaterally and without warning disabled my account. Attempts to contact Google to remedy this result in a cul-de-sac web form that refuses to accept the email I registered with. I woul

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread marius schebella
Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application >> is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you >> just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll >> choose projects and

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? Where should I be? add your names, hurry! :) Why should I add my name? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montr

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Roman, actually GEMVeeJay is also a patching project. But yes, either propose a new project (the more the better!!!) or sign up as proposed mentor for Undead or GEMVeeJay. Having spare mentor shouldn't be a problem, I think the idea was to have two possible mentors for each one... best, D.

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application > > is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you > > just need to put down your name. Then once the projects

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application > is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you > just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll > choose projects and who will mentor them. >

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-07 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! > i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just > in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of. Yes of course, feel free to add you to the projects ! I think we should have at least two mentors for each project, at least for the application no

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
True that! I would be way more useful writing documentation than code. If there was an opportunity like GSoC for that, I'd jump on it. ~Kyle On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, chris clepper wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: > >> I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Derek Holzer
Agreed in full, my wish too d. chris clepper wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer > wrote: > > I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I > would have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for >

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread chris clepper
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: > I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would have > pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the > GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff! That is really a shame since most open source projects need

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Derek Holzer
I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff! d. chris clepper wrote: > My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and > accompanying manual

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread chris clepper
My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, a

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Derek Holzer
That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: > I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level > stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can > have more than one mentor though. > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread chris clepper
I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: > Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclT

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi all, i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of. gr~~~ Am 03.03.2009 um 21:23 schrieb Georg Holzmann: > Hallo again ! > > I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: > http://pur

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Markus ! > The same with me. > > interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. > > maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be > interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. > > if there is interest I put some things toge

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread brandt
The same with me. interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. if there is interest I put some things together tjis weekend. markus

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Derek ! Nice projects - I also think that we need more patcher-only projects ! LG Georg Derek Holzer schrieb: > Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or > otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be > general enough to attract st

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-06 Thread Derek Holzer
Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.in

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Wow, nice, very thorough. I think this wiki will end up being a good reference for people who want to take on projects no matter if we get it or now. Dan, could you add your name and gmail account to the list of mentors (yes, it has to be gmail): http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-05 Thread danomatika
Ok, I added it to the project wiki: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Debug64Bit On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 15:38 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > Yes, that's a great project. Add it to the wiki! > > > .hc > > > > On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:52 PM, danomatika wrote: > > > > > > > D

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, that's a great project. Add it to the wiki! .hc On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:52 PM, danomatika wrote: Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd+externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the curren

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-04 Thread danomatika
Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd +externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the current state. It's something rather boring, but would be quite useful for the future ... the next OSX (Snow Leaop

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-03 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo again ! I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 Please look through them and correct my bad english and/or add additional resources and ideas ! @Hans: I added you to some projects as mentor, I hope

Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!

2009-03-03 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the foll