Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?

2011-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I just skimmed your changes, but I think that's a great addition to the docs. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] unexpected behaviour in [route]

2011-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
In your quote of Miller's help patch you left off half the sentence.  Here's the full quote: "Route checks the first element of a message against each of its arguments, which may be numbers or symbols (but not a mixture of the two.)"* The part before the comma is wrong-- that's not how [route]

Re: [PD] Reading and writing binary files

2011-02-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Reading and writing binary files > To: "David" > Cc: "pd-list" , "Martin Peach" > Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 3:31 AM > On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, David wrote: > > > I have another question, though. How

Re: [PD] Download Pd?

2011-03-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/5/11, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > From: IOhannes m zmölnig > Subject: Re: [PD] Download Pd? > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 12:10 AM > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/2011 11:53 PM, George Ker wrote: > > 2011/3/4 Pierre Massat >

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Right. We discussed before somewhere on the list but I couldn't figure out where. Here's the same solution but only using a subpatch. Just use "testab.pd" as an abstraction, give it some args, and bang [pd get-my-args] to get your args. (Then just copy/paste [pd get-my-args] into any abstrac

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any > external? > To: "Miller Puckette" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 9:07 PM > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Miller Puckette > wrote: >

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any > external? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Miller Puckette" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, March

Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on analogindustries.com

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on > analogindustries.com > To: "chris clepper" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 10:45 PM > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, chris clepper > wrote: > >

Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on analogindustries.com

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on > analogindustries.com > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "chris clepper" , "Mathieu Bouchard" >

Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on, analogindustries.com

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on, > analogindustries.com > To: "Mathieu Bouchard" > Cc: "Peter Kirn" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 12:43 AM > > On Mar 7, 20

Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on analogindustries.com

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Toughts on PD vs. Max stability on macintels on > analogindustries.com > To: "Max" > Cc: "PD list" > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:34 AM > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Max wrote: > > > just to throw in a equa

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Chris McCormick wrote: > From: Chris McCormick > Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any > external? > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 5:56 AM > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:07:08PM > -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > On

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
1) You're seeing one model of the economics of free software in action on the Ardour website.  Click the link to the "news" page and there's a status bar that shows the amount of donations given per month relative to the amount it would take to fund full- time development of the software.  Th

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
SHA1 > > On 2011-03-08 06:34, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > > I think a better question would be put to Miller or > Hans, or the other > > admins-- can someone please explain how the patch > review process works?  > > it's very simple: > each patch is

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review

2011-03-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Have you looked at the [switch~] object? It doesn't allow you to create/destroy the abstractions, but it does allow you to turn off dsp in each of them as necessary. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Jérôme Abel wrote: > From: Jérôme Abel > Subject: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review >

Re: [PD] new Pd Tutorial in English

2011-03-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
In the "Basic Sintax" (sic) section, you say: "Data types in Pd are basically: float, symbol, list bang." But throughout that section you refer to anythings as lists: [my 3 dogs 4 you(  <-- Note: this is not a list! | [route list] | [bng] In 02.Selectors.pd: "These gives (sic) us three possibl

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, dmotd wrote: > From: dmotd > Subject: Re: [PD] The economics of Open source > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:41 AM > On 03/18/2011 11:46 PM, Pierre Massat > wrote: > [...] > Still I believe Ardour has had limited contributors to the > code, so if

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? > To: "ailo" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:27 PM > > sorry, my following reply sat a long time in my email > account. > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, ailo wrote: > > >

Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] The economics of Open source > To: "Bernardo Barros" > Cc: "pd-list" > Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 8:34 PM > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Bernardo Barros > wrote: > > > Hello , Mathieu! Well, I did not ref

Re: [PD] math + music examples

2011-03-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[pd twinkle-twinkle-or-something] | [expr $f1 ???] <- put operators and numbers here! | [pd some-oscillator~] | \ [dac~] Or just have them use arbitrary binops in place of expr if you want to go that way. In other words, give them a way to just hack away at a specific part of the object chain

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? > To: "ailo" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 6:24 PM > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, ailo wrote: > > >

Re: [PD] overriding objects

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] overriding objects > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Frank Barknecht" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 6:50 PM > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wi

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "ailo" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:42 PM > On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote:

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "ailo" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 10:15 PM > On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes > wrot

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "ailo" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 11:19 PM > On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: &

Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any external?

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Get list of a the arguments of a patch without using any > external? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 3:40 AM > On Mon, 7 Ma

Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's a hack to get around the hacky creator names of the list objects (I also added "list", but I'm not sure if you want to use aliases.) Is there no way to just get a list of all the creator names that are available when Pd loads up? -Jonathan --- On Sun, 4/3/11, yvan volochine wrote: >

Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "yvan volochine" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 11:38 PM > > To get all available o

Re: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD

2011-04-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Billy Stiltner wrote: > From: Billy Stiltner > Subject: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD > To: "pd-list" > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 9:37 PM > Hey > > I didn't know you could GOP data structures. > This opens up a new world. > Where is an up to date tu

Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 10:55 PM > On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Jonathan Wil

Re: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 4/5/11, João Pais wrote: > From: João Pais > Subject: Re: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD > To: "Billy Stiltner" > Cc: "pd-list" , "Jonathan Wilkes" > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 6:22 PM > > The other messa

Re: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 4/5/11, Billy Stiltner wrote: > From: Billy Stiltner > Subject: Re: [PD] Data Structures GOP and installing latest PD > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "João Pais" , "pd-list" > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 8:36 PM > João > Thanks

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new Pd music release on GOSUB10

2011-04-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Also see the PDDP docs related to [expr] ( http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/doc/pddp/ ): expr-help.pd all_about_expr_functions.pd all_about_expr_and_value.pd all_about_expr_if.pd all_about_expr_multiline.pd -Jonathan___ Pd-li

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new Pd music release on GOSUB10

2011-04-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
There are links to them in each relevant help patch (like expr-help.pd in this case).___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Making a Realtime Convolution External

2011-04-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 4/7/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Making a Realtime Convolution External > To: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 5:15 PM > On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, IOhannes m > zmoelnig wrote: > > > using "threats" d

Re: [PD] threaded soundfiler / loading soundfiles into arrays without clicks

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028678.html So if the dsp tree gets resorted when you load the soundfile, wouldn't this still produce dropouts with the threaded version?___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-managem

Re: [PD] Toggle Status

2011-04-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Saul wrote: > From: Saul > Subject: Re: [PD] Toggle Status > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 6:00 PM > Hi All, > > I'm sure this has been asked many times, but nothing comes > up in an archive search. > > I'm using a multiple toggles to activate each

Re: [PD] Switch from PureData!

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
That would be excellent to hear about useful forgotten patches. In the meantime maybe I can hijack this thread with a practical question. Look at the supercollider and pure data example at the beginning of the following tutorial: http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/ch002_graphical-programming

Re: [PD] Switch from PureData!

2011-05-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 5/11/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Switch from PureData! > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Derek Holzer" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 12:53 AM > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonathan Wil

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] canvas get method

2011-05-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Patrice Colet wrote: > From: Patrice Colet > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] canvas get method > To: "pd-list" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 1:28 AM > lol, it's fun, your file misses YZM's > canvas_cl

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED > To: "Marco Donnarumma" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 3:50 PM > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma > wrote: > > > it seems quite sad to me that the first

Re: [PD] pd crashed

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > From: IOhannes m zmölnig > Subject: Re: [PD] pd crashed > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 9:22 PM > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/18/2011 06:57 PM, Funs Seelen wrote: > >> > > I also had this proble

Re: [PD] pd crashed

2011-06-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 6/20/11, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig > Subject: Re: [PD] pd crashed > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:29 AM > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2011-06-20 03:04, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 6/21/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Marco Donnarumma" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 3:39 AM > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan W

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED > To: "Onyx Ashanti" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 5:08 PM > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Onyx Ashanti > wrote: > > > The thing is, nobody asks a violin player wha

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Dear Miller, B07.sampler.pd is a technological parody. Thanks, Jonathan Please tell me whether that means that a) Miller should remove that tutorial, b) he should revise it to be better, c) it's a waste of time for Miller to read it at all, c) something else. If you didn't choose a or b, then p

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
ampling was a technological parody.  There are lots of things you can do with samples and loops that you wouldn't be able to do with whatever was being sampled. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Dear Miller, B07.sampler.pd is a technological parody. Thanks, Jonathan Pl

Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
How is the guitar hero example not just an example of locked down proprietary consoles vs. free software ideals? Put another way: if the console/game were free and open, guitar hero would be the equivalent of a starting point, or maybe (even a tutorial like B07.sampler.pd), that you do befo

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
set of parodies that have to do with technology.  As a term of derision I think it's confusing/confused. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 6/22/11, ALAN BROOKER wrote: From: ALAN BROOKER Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED To: "Jonathan Wilkes" Cc: pd-list@iem.at, "Cody Loyd"

Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
You're right-- the creator's intentions don't matter here, that's beside the point. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Charles Henry wrote: From: Charles Henry Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , pd-list@i

Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
#x27;s the point, really-- if you could it we'd be talking about free software, and technological parody or no, we'd quickly be doing some cool things with that game. :) -Jonathan --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Charles Henry wrote: From: Charles Henry Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] technological pa

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Certainly could be. :) Or on the other hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuuRG6-IT8 -Jonathan --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Tyler Leavitt wrote: From: Tyler Leavitt Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED To: "Jonathan Wilkes" Cc: "ALAN BROOKER" , pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursd

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The only point that's not irrelevant is that you can load up soundfiles without needing a new physical object for each one. It's not musically interesting that it takes up less room. That the patch can become something else is a distraction from the particularly narrow point I'm making, which

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[ unpack ] [ unpack ] | | | | | | [unpack] [unpack] [unpack] [unpack] | |   | etc. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Pagano, Patrick wrote: From: Pagano, Patrick Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED To: "Jonathan Wilkes" Cc: "Mathieu Bouchard" , "p

Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I tested the patch from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3030159&group_id=55736&atid=478070 with pd-l2ork (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-l2ork-20110427) and every time I clicked the tgl in the parent patch it put me into edit mode. (Doesn't do that in pd vanilla). Also, selecting an

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 5:33 PM > > On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:39 +0200, "Ivica Ico Buk

Re: [PD] route - pack issue

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[route] outputs an empty list which, for simplicity's sake, is supposed to be interpreted as a "bang" message. But [pack] isn't doing this: [list( | [pack] | [print] Should be a pretty easy fix-- just check for an empty list in pack_list and if so, call pack_bang. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 7/7/1

Re: [PD] route - pack issue

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
More specifically, a simple conditional in pack_list in x_connective.c seems to work: static void pack_list(t_pack *x, t_symbol *s, int ac, t_atom *av) { if (ac==0) pack_bang(x); else obj_list(&x->x_obj, 0, ac, av); } -Jonathan --- On Thu, 7/7/11, Jonathan Wilkes

Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Christian Haines" , Pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 9:10 PM > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 09:32 -0700,

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "Ivica Ico Bukvic" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 9:2

Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: RE: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue > To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" > Cc: "'Christian Haines'" , Pd-list@iem.at > Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 4:54 PM > > Ok, now

Re: [PD] route - pack issue

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: RE: [PD] route - pack issue > To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 4:54 PM > > static void pack_list(t_pack *x, > t_symbol *s,

Re: [PD] route - pack issue

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: RE: [PD] route - pack issue > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 8:12 PM > > > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > >

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [...] > The problem with forks is if improvements don't migrate > upstream. I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of. > Then we don't benefit from sharing the > fixes.  Making things migrate upstream takes time in > itself. How does o

Re: [PD] route - pack issue

2011-07-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: RE: [PD] route - pack issue > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:33 AM > > > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > >

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10

Re: [PD] reorg of puredata.info/docs/developer

2011-07-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] reorg of puredata.info/docs/developer > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > Cc: "PD List" > Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 5:05 PM > On Sun, 3 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph > Steiner wrote: > > > One goal for me i

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" , pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, July 11, 2011,

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Martin Peach wrote: > From: Martin Peach > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "pd-list" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 6:42 PM > On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wil

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Peach > wrote: > > On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >> But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip > string... > > > > Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the  > assist method receives a number corresponding to the inlet > or ou

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
chard > wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Martin Peach wrote: > >> On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >>> But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip > string... > >> > >> Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the > ass

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of > new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Martin Peach" , "Mathieu Bouchard&

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "Martin Peach&q

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Mathieu Bouchard" , "Martin Peac

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Mathieu Bouchard" , "Martin Peac

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" , "Martin Peach&q

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: implementing tooltips WAS: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Mathieu Bouchard" , "Martin Peac

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Martin Peach" , "pd-list" > Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 3:51 AM &

Re: [PD] reorg of puredata.info/docs/developer

2011-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] reorg of puredata.info/docs/developer > To: "Mathieu Bouchard" > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "PD List" > Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 11:00

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Martin Peach" , "pd-list" > Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:54 PM &

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > Cc: "pd-list" , "Martin Peach" > Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 6:11 PM > On Mon, 11

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Mathieu Bouchard" , "pd-list"

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[inlet~] and [outlet~] already take the args "hold" and "lin" for upsampling/downsampling. -Jonathan --- On Sun, 7/17/11, András Murányi wrote: From: András Murányi Subject: Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features To: "PD List" Date: Sunday

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Martin Peach" , "pd-list" > Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 8:22 PM &

Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
So does adding to struct _widgetbehavior count as adding to t_class? --- On Sun, 7/17/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] implementing tooltips WAS: Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots > of new editing features > To: "Jonat

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd Convention - Data structures workshop: Taking your requests

2011-08-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
How well do these things scale without having a low level way to delete/copy scalars or insert/remove arbitrary array elements? -Jonathan > >From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >To: Frank Barknecht >Cc: pd-list@iem.at >Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:23 PM >Subject:

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd Convention - Data structures workshop: Taking your requests

2011-08-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
There's also the (currently) underutilized "send-window" method of [pointer], which forwards a message to the canvas of the scalar that [pointer] is currently pointing at.  Additionally, you can use the "traverse" method to point to the head of a glist (which doesn't even need to contain a scala

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Aw c'mon, Miller, you didn't even try. It's just a little sprintf hacking and that idiosyncratic recursion that outputs everything backwards. -Jonathan > >From: Miller Puckette >To: Alexandre Torres Porres >Cc: pd-lista puredata >Sent: Wednesday, August 3

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
tand the relationship between # of objects in recursive chain and max # function calls before stack overflow. -Jonathan >____ >From: Alexandre Torres Porres >To: pd-lista puredata ; Jonathan Wilkes >Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:44 AM >Subject: Re: [P

Re: [PD] pd message order?

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Technically it seems to be this: they output in reverse creation order. (The last [receive] you created in the patch will output first.) Conceptually, imagine an evil demon changing the order in real-time to screw up your patch.  Thwart the demon by using wired connections, trigger, and subpat

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I don't understand what you're saying about receive symbols.  How do you get the single characters in the first place? -Jonathan > >From: Mathieu Bouchard >To: Jonathan Wilkes >Cc: Miller Puckette ; Alexandre Torres Porres >;

[PD] search plugin update

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Search plugin revision: *added status bar shows link locations and search text (if searching for a keyword tag) * quoted text works, e.g., "it's a secret to everybody" * regexes seem to work, e.g., "outlet.*symbol" will match all objects that output a symbol * pd-style word boundaries, e.g., "cl

Re: [PD] stuff/synth

2011-08-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I wouldn't attribute any didactic purpose whatsoever to peculiarities in unattributed patches that live inside a directory titled "7.stuff". If you want to revise those patches, feel free. -Jonathan > >From: Ludwig Maes >To: Pd List >Sent: Saturday, August

Re: [PD] Turing Tarpit (was Re: (breaking symbols))

2011-08-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
athan     > >From: Mathieu Bouchard >To: Jonathan Wilkes >Cc: Miller Puckette ; Alexandre Torres Porres >; pd-lista puredata >Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:18 PM >Subject: Turing Tarpit (was Re: (breaking symbols)) > >On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Jon

[PD] Sing like the stars

2011-08-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
(attached) -Jonathan signal-chorus.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
1 - right.  You can't fix this without refactoring the canvas_motion stuff in g_editor.c.  I'm still not sure why these events are handled in c and not with tk bindings. 2 - There isn't a key combination that will delete it (and doesn't cmd-Backspace just delete the previous word anyway?).  Th

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hm... I'm not sure I understand the danger. Isn't this: [noise~] | [*~ 99] | [dac~] an implicit version of: [noise~] | [*~ 99] | [clip~ -1 1] | [dac~] ? Doesn't the signal generated by either of these create the greatest perceived volume-- something approaching a bunch of square waves

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