Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Simon Iten
why not just create a new object with correct symmetry and no dc? call it sin~ or cycle~ or whatever… i don’t think a compromise is a good way. On 25 Nov 2015, at 00:01, Robert Esler wrote: > > Okay, here is a compromise. What may be a fix, or a new feature. It changes > the oscillator to do

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
We can all create any external we like i guess, but this is a matter of discussing the workings and the update/fix of internal/vanilla objects such as cos~ osc~ and tabosc4~ most of us we're surprised with this behaviour and think they should be updated/fixed. I personally strongly don't think it

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread martin brinkmann
On 24/11/15 18:39, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Does anyone have an example of a working patch that depends on the current > behavior? i would not be surprised if changing osc~ would break (or at least alter the sound of) many patches which rely on fm and feedback etc. bis denn!

Re: [PD] band limited (anti-alias) techniques

2015-11-25 Thread cyrille henry
Le 24/11/2015 18:21, David Medine a écrit : Välimäki and Houvilainen have published a number of articles about something called 'differentiated parabolic waveforms'. Basically, you square a digital sawtooth and put it through a one-zero differentiating filter (y(n) = x(n) - x(n-1)). What yo

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I'd be really surprised if it'd "break" - that's a strong term. Alter the sound a bit, maybe, sure, to a not desirable effect, maybe yes or maybe just not at all... Now, conversely... any Frequency Modulation patch is really broken because it doesn't really work as it should! Well, in the case o

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 08:27 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > If dirtiness and imperfect is your secret spice in building beautiful > and lively patches, you can still make it so, and there are several > ways to do this... but preventing an oscillator from being accurate > and in a completely

Re: [PD] band limited (anti-alias) techniques

2015-11-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 16:44 +0100, cyrille henry wrote: > > Le 24/11/2015 16:25, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : > > cool, I just miss a few bandlimited oscillators in Pd, I'm doing them as > > patches/abstractions, but I think the best way to go would be to code an > > external, > > i think

[PD] Running TCL files in vanilla Window version.

2015-11-25 Thread Mario Mey
I would like to run PureData as similar to a standalone application. I would like to: - Have all the files and dirs inside one dir (portable). No installation. - Run a Pure Data patch in Windows with a batch file inside main dir. - Use KIOSK-plugin to: - Hide Pd window - Have no menues - A

[PD] Running TCL files in vanilla Window version.

2015-11-25 Thread Mario Mey
I would like to run PureData as similar to a standalone application. I would like to: - Have all the files and dirs inside one dir (portable). No installation. - Run a Pure Data patch in Windows with a batch file inside main dir. - Use KIOSK-plugin to: - Hide Pd window - Have no menues - A

Re: [PD] Running TCL files in vanilla Window version.

2015-11-25 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi. On 25/11/2015 14:30, Mario Mey wrote: I would like to run PureData as similar to a standalone application. I would like to: - Have all the files and dirs inside one dir (portable). No installation. (On Windows) just unzip the the file in any directory. No need to install (I even had Pd ru

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Christof Ressi
Totally agree in every point! [osc~] should definitely be fixed, for me there's no doubt about it. If this would, however, really break some patches (examples?), why not include a legacy version of [osc~] and make it possible to set the global behaviour via a Pd message - just like it's the case

[PD] Advice on bonk~ with bass guitar

2015-11-25 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi List, I'm trying to use bonk~ to segment bass guitar. I want to capture every note. Does anyone have any advice to optimize the settings of bonk~ for this? Cheers,Ed  Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad http://www.ninjajamm.com/ Gemn

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2015-11-25 12:37, Roman Haefeli wrote: > I fully support your opinion in this debate. If I'd be in charge, I'd > fix it right away. +1 if you are doing glitch - and relying on a bug in a software to get those nifty sounds *is* glitch -, then you shan't complain if bugs get fixed¹. and of cour

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry not to jump in before... I think in the case of this particular design flaw, the correct thing to do is to correct it but provide back compatibility (as I did earlier with hip~ and inlet~). It's quite possible nobody will ever care but it would be there in case someone did. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> i would not be surprised if changing osc~ would break (or at least alter the sound of) many patches which rely on fm and feedback etc. Actual patches (like the one that started this discussion) are incredibly helpful. -Jonathan On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:54 AM, martin brinkmann

Re: [PD] oscillators (osc~ / cycle~) not working well in FM?

2015-11-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> I think (...) the correct thing to do is to correct it but > provide back compatibility Everybody happy! 2015-11-25 14:31 GMT-02:00 Miller Puckette : > Sorry not to jump in before... I think in the case of this particular > design flaw, > the correct thing to do is to correct it but provide ba

Re: [PD] [hdplay~] problem

2015-11-25 Thread Dan Wilcox
Ah, if so it’d be nice to have that noted in the help patch ;) Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com > On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: IOhannes m

[PD] A "Ramp" object?

2015-11-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Howdy, looking for an object that "breaks a continuous signal into linearly interpolated segments with specific durations". It's not like [rampsmooth~], it's like "Ramp" in SC. Feeding white noise to it would be like rand~ or noisi~ cheers ___ Pd-list@li

Re: [PD] A "Ramp" object?

2015-11-25 Thread Matt Barber
​Check these out.​ I think what you're looking for is inside of noisei~. Sorry for no helpfile, but you can make it easily enough. Inlet controls frequency of new value generation (audio rate is possible). On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Howdy, looking for an ob

Re: [PD] Font Options

2015-11-25 Thread Py Fave
on my system font is DejaVu Sans Mono i find it readable GEM is an extension of pd , made for opengl graphics. it drives a separate window from pd's interface. it's in pd-extended, or available here https://puredata.info/downloads/gem 2015-11-25 3:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas WillNot <1137...@acadia

Re: [PD] GEM: pushing gem output to v4l2loopback device

2015-11-25 Thread jamal crawford
Hi Benja, List big massive thanks for the reply works like a charm! :) cheers ~/.jc > > you can grab what is happening in Gem window with pix_snap and then use pix_record with a message like : [codec v4l2, file /dev/video20, record 1< if /dev/video20 is the virtual v4l2 device you want to use att

Re: [PD] searching the email archive for common words

2015-11-25 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, I would like to re-post the below mail regarding the search feature of the mailing list archive. I am sure everyone here agrees that the list archive is one, if not the only one, of the most comprehensive collections of Pd knowledge that comes from more than a decade of fruitful discuss

Re: [PD] searching the email archive for common words

2015-11-25 Thread puredata
I would like to re-post the below mail regarding the search feature of the mailing list archive. I am sure everyone here agrees that the list archive is one, if not the only one, Would like to point the second resource with plenty of valuable info on pd: http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/ Marketing

Re: [PD] searching the email archive for common words

2015-11-25 Thread Julian Brooks
Good stat On 25 November 2015 at 23:56, wrote: > I would like to re-post the below mail regarding the search feature of >> the mailing list archive. I am sure everyone here agrees that the list >> archive is one, if not the only one, >> > > Would like to point the second resource with plenty of

Re: [PD] Advice on bonk~ with bass guitar

2015-11-25 Thread Miller Puckette
I think this will be very hard to do reliably. I can't get perfectly reliable attacks for a guitar, even with the strings separated. I heard a rumor that some neural net thing might work better than bonk~ for strings but never saw it myself. cheers Miller On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 02:31:37PM +000