Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: If there are libraries only available with the v0.0-extended version, then I propose to give them a version proper, compile them for the architectures in use*today* and put that to Deken, along with an objects file. and first migrate those libraries to

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/1/21 10:31 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: On 3/1/2021 6:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I agree. Not sure if there's a "disk space concern" on the server side. there was a recent thread about excessive disk usage by some externals on this list. the gist is that disk space on deken.puredata.in

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: If there are libraries only available with the v0.0-extended version, then I propose to give them a version proper, coincidentally i wrote an email to lucas yesterday about avoiding to use the "0.0.extended" dummy-version for uploads. this was before *t

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/1/21 10:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 17:45 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: so we actually really need to reupload them, given the scenario, huh? Oh no, please don't. I'm grateful for all the effort that went into making these packages available through Deken. I

Re: [PD] questions for delay external (was: pause writing to delay line / hybrid of array and delay)

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 16:51, Max escreveu: > I think adding that freeze option to delay would be fantastic and even > more so when it gets Pd's functionality en par with the Max/MSP > counterparts. > I do like this option in Vanilla, I have to confess I haven't figured it out yet how to

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Christof Ressi
while we're at it, any reason why not to have a "set" method for [send~] and [catch~]? Seems inconsistent For the same reason why you can't set the name of [delwrite~]: it's the object owning the buffer. In theory, it would be possible to bind the object to another name, but why would you want t

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Sebastian Shader via Pd-list
I recently implemented a variant of delread~ that can have it's delwrite~ set. Basically in the "set" messageI just did most of the things normally done in the dsp method. Instead of sending the pointer to the delwritectl to the performmethod using dsp_add, instead I send a pointer to a pointer

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 20:40, Alexandre Torres Porres < por...@gmail.com> escreveu: > I can also try a PR > I give up already, waiting for you :) Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 21:02, Christof Ressi escreveu: > Pd objects are (unfortunately) not notified on connection changes and I > can

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Christof Ressi
"PLEASE DON'T DO THAT" I would say so :-) control connections do not force a new dsp call, so I dunno. Pd objects are (unfortunately) not notified on connection changes and I can't think of a sane way to work around this. The real solution would be to add an API for object state change notifi

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
I had opened a feature request already: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902 Is not a re-upload but an plain "upload" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 3/1/2021 8:16 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Forgot about pd 64 bits!!! Good thinking :) we'll need to reuplo

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
I had opened a feature request already: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902 Is not a re-upload but an plain "upload" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 3/1/2021 8:16 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 18:33, Lucas Cordiviola mailto:lu

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 20:19, Christof Ressi escreveu: > It doesn't have to be. You can certainly change the delay line during > runtime, just like in [receive~], [throw~], [tabsend~], [tabreceive~], etc. > I thought so, but let me just get something straight, is it possible to force a gl

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Christof Ressi
Off topic: pd 64 bits *argh* Let's stop confusing "64-bit" with "double precision"! On 02.03.2021 00:16, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 18:33, Lucas Cordiviola mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>> escreveu: If we do proper pd-lib-builder makefiles for the 0.0ext

Re: [PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Christof Ressi
This is because the delay line to read is passed via the dsp_add function in "sigdelread_dsp" or "sigvd_dsp" It doesn't have to be. You can certainly change the delay line during runtime, just like in [receive~], [throw~], [tabsend~], [tabreceive~], etc. All relevant information obtained in the

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 18:33, Lucas Cordiviola escreveu: > > If we do proper pd-lib-builder makefiles for the 0.0extended versions > (and upload pkgs with sources) then when we have the proper *double > precision extension* compiling and uploading will be really fast and easy. > Forgot ab

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 18:18, Roman Haefeli escreveu: > Oh no, please don't. I'm grateful for all the effort that went into > making these packages available through Deken. It made the transition > from Pd-extended a breeze. But since how long is Pd-extended dead now? > Let those packages

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
On 3/1/2021 6:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: If there are libraries only available with the v0.0-extended version, then I propose to give them a version proper, compile them for the architectures in use*today* and put that to Deken, along with an objects file. IMHO, the original binaries should be

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 17:45 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > so we actually really need to reupload them, given the scenario, huh? Oh no, please don't. I'm grateful for all the effort that went into making these packages available through Deken. It made the transition from Pd-extended a

[PD] how to force the DSP call? / set delread~ delay name

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, so, I'm working on my variant of delread/write with more features like "freezing", for reference => https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2021-03/129181.html So, here's another question, thought I'd open a new thread. I'm now at the point of setting the delay name to delread-like objec

Re: [PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em seg., 1 de mar. de 2021 às 17:36, IOhannes m zmölnig escreveu: > On 3/1/21 6:18 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > not sure if there's an easy way to add all objects to deken to minimize > > this issue. At least for all externals in extended. Do we need to > reupload > > them one by one (n

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I think it's pretty related, though :) we're talking about finding matches, matching specifically to externals, but there's this issue where there are some stuff there missing to be found and I think we should also improve that so it all makes better sense. But tell me what you think I should do, o

[PD] providing object-lists for old deken packages (Re: restrict "find externals" to exact matches)

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 3/1/21 6:18 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: not sure if there's an easy way to add all objects to deken to minimize this issue. At least for all externals in extended. Do we need to reupload them one by one (newer uploads to deken automatically provide an object list, right?)??? Is it too m

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 3/1/21 6:18 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I really like the new feature where you can search explicitly for an object or a library. cool ;-) the rest of your email isn't really related to "find exact matches", is it? gfmsrd IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital s

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

2021-03-01 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
My wrongly named 0.0.extended(1) versions for Windows-amd64 have the objectlist.txt. Sometimes you get more results if you don't hide "foreign architectures" in Deken preferences. (1) On my uploads "0.0.extended" means the the sources are from the last "pd-extended" but they are not bit by

Re: [PD] questions for delay external (was: pause writing to delay line / hybrid of array and delay)

2021-03-01 Thread Max
On 01.03.21 04:13, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em dom., 28 de fev. de 2021 às 16:20, Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>> escreveu: I'm thinking about creating a variant of delread/write~ for ELSE with this "freeze" functionality. But maybe we can request to add it t

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

2021-03-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I really like the new feature where you can search explicitly for an object or a library. one thing though is that people expect all objects are findable, but ones uploaded earlier (like the ones from pd extended) do not have an object list, right? On facebook someone was searching for "envgen",

Re: [PD] restrict "find externals" to exact matches

2021-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/26/21 8:40 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: We can document [...] - https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/84#issuecomment-786533931 note that this doesn't yet work with Pd-vanilla, as it requires a (tiny) bit of changes on the Pd-core side. there's a branch in the pure-data repository