Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
esn't seem right - OSX9 is > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also > > uncompresses to this s

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Nope... I think it's a zip file that unpacks to "test3". but now I don't know which "compile" to use, "Darwin" or "macOS" (both appear on https://git.iem.at/pd/pure-data/-/pipelines ). The "Darwin" is a zip file containing the raw app, and the "macOS" one is a "disk image". I'd prefer to

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd announce: Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] 0.52.0test2: window jitter on (Mac OS)

2021-12-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Excellent news... I'm busy trying to grind out test3 which will have the fix in. cheers M On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 06:12:38PM +, Philip Stone wrote: > Thanks, Miller. I can confirm that build #8286 does *not* exhibit the problem. > > Phil > > From: Miller Puckette > Date

Re: [PD] 0.52.0test2: window jitter on (Mac OS)

2021-12-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
If you're on a mac you can just go to https://git.iem.at/pd/pure-data/-/pipelines look at the latest version that has finished compiling (build #8286 , third from top). On the "..." drop-down, you can grab "macOS:archive" which should be an "app" with the fix in it. cheers Miller On Sun, Dec

Re: [PD] '$0' in messages again, another proposal? (Was: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out)

2021-12-01 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
know if it's been officially rejected so > > we can close it for good and settle the debate. Then maybe > > think of something else. > > > > Miller's response: > > > > Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 21:29, Miller Puckette >

Re: [PD] documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think this is right. "pd dsp 1" is definitely public, and "watchdog" isn't. Perhaps there should be two different destinations for the public and non-public ones. but it would be cruel to change that just to clean the situation up, when people are probably using some things that I would think

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I don't know which way to go on this one... I think it's a bad idea to have a shortcut for "symbol" since it's more often hit by accident than on purpose - and it confuses people who make them thinking they're making floats. cheers M On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:00:47PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I disagree with the "$0" in message box idea. Why not $1 then? (Oh, because it already does something different...) It would be interestnig to allow message boxes to access canvas creation arguments somehow, but not that way. Meanwhile I adopted the atan2 fix but then had to fix a compileer

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ORSPgP_ubKPWSMO1N9Zlq8UHW-A= > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata_pull_1484=DwIFAg=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q=deE9rBT780-hg7Js-ayUzl5Eer2-DcNKq_76A1o0159JI0T2BAWSvLTSl9XCBg8-=EOdL6lSZtgknqhrbORSPgP_

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later. M On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Oh and I forgot: > > # Active Patch Cable Highlight > > I think greying out the active patch cable is

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Oops, fixed now, thanks. On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 12:34:39AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > hey, release notes says "libpd included as part of the Pd distribution. A > test libpd project is included in ../pd/libpdtest." but I can't find this. > > Em qua., 24 de nov. de 2021 às 21:38,

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason. Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :) Miller On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html > > > now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from

Re: [PD] Pure Data FLOSS Manual has been renamed to Pd-extended FLOSS Manual (was Re: mickfuzz's Pure Data FLOSS Manual, a message on behalf of Pd's community)

2021-11-22 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Thanks for this - I think lots of people were getting confused, thinking Pd extended was Pd and then concluding the whole thing was unmaintained. cheers Miller On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 05:15:06PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Hi folks, as I've been saying, I was able to get involved

Re: [PD] pdmax - broken pipe in macos?

2021-11-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
If by any chance you're using pd 0.52 (test version) then I think it can crash when used as a subprocess (this should be fixed for the next test release). If you're using Pd 0.51-4 the problem is something else. The "broken pipe" message means the subprocess died suddenly for some reason. But I

Re: [PD] GUI freezes on windows?

2021-11-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, this should be fixed for the next test release (thanks Dan) cheers Miller On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 06:51:20AM -0300, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Sorry it was a fast and bad answer. > > There's a math that puts together: delay * samplerate / blocksize. : > >     int nbufs = sys_schedadvance *

Re: [PD] makefilename multiple substitutions

2021-11-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 01:46:41AM +0100, Max wrote: > OK, got it. It's not shaving off one % per depth, it actually removing every > other % on each iteration, so the # of escaping symbols (%) grows > exponentially. > Maybe should lower my screen resolution to see the number of %% symbols >

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 200, Issue 15

2021-11-11 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
If by any chance you were using writesf~ or readsf~, you might have tripped a concurrency problem that I think I circumvented in commit 8049fa849e9ac728251715feae4db3c369904400 . The symptom was that the patch kept running but the GUI quit updating after hitting a message box that set off a

Re: [PD] Nestable Dictionaries in Pd

2021-09-07 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
The least-horrible way to learn about it is the "4.data.structures" tutorial sequence. But the whole idea of hierarchical data structures maps horribly to a patch language - there needs to be a better way to access 'data' in Pd. cheers M On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:23:58PM +0100, Pierre

Re: [PD] JACK affects UDP rate

2021-07-26 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
There's also the "ring buffer" stuff in s_audio_paring.c - it's quite general and well written. Byte stream oriented. cheers M On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:46:43PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > (Sending again with correct subject line. :P) > > Note, there is Peter's C atomics ringbuffer.c

Re: [PD] JACK affects UDP rate

2021-07-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Well, my first attempt to fix things added 5 msec tothe latency, hmm. On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 10:05:35AM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > Yes. Also, I beleive jacks' setup assumes that all its clients share > the same latency (set via jack's buffer size and number of buffe

Re: [PD] JACK affects UDP rate

2021-07-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
mited (often 1024 samples) > > > > Unfortunately, very few people actually seem to understand the > > difference between the "block size" (= hardware buffer size) and the > > "Delay" in Pd's audio settings and how they interact... But maybe that's > &g

Re: [PD] JACK affects UDP rate

2021-07-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Aha.. I've been meaning to look at why jack doesn't respond to audio latency setting... I think it needs fooling with. cheers M On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 01:01:43AM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > Hi Miller, > > > As I understand it, when Pd is idle (finishes a 64-sample block and can't > > yet >

Re: [PD] JACK affects UDP rate

2021-07-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:59:26PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > On 23.07.2021 23:11, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Fri, 2021-07-23 at 21:52 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > > > When we overhauled the networking code, I noticed that the TCP and > > > UDP functions would both read up to N bytes

Re: [PD] Pd files on Linux: MIME type and (document) icons

2021-07-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi all - This appears to be a PR to https://github.com/pure-data/pd-icon - but htere seems to be confusion as to whether this should be part of pure data itself. I think it wound be fine to have it in pure data - but I don't know if I should just grab the files and stick them in pure-data or if

Re: [PD] sad news: RIP Martin Peach

2021-07-06 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Martin made a huge contribution to electronic musicians everywhere - I'll sorely miss his generous personality and his creative insights. Miller On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 11:51:47PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Sorry to bring this bad news and unfortunately I don't have much >

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

2021-06-17 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
to scare people... more seriously, because I'd consider such a thing "meta" (such as message back-tracing, which I also want to add someday) I don't have a precise idea what I mean by "meta" here. M On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:38:52PM +0200, IOhannes m zm??lnig wrote: > O

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

2021-06-17 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 12:54:40PM +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > Hi all, > > On 17/06/2021 12:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > ... > > Pd is a data flow language and I thikn the per-canvas paradigm maps well > > to the idea of data "passing through a danger zone" - which it can also > >

Re: [PD] develop testing branch was: Find last error

2021-06-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
hi all - A counter-proposal; I want to get 0.52 out this summer. Perhaps we should prioritize which PRs to include in it and I'll just merge them into master. Since it would be early int he cycle there would be plenty of time to work out the kinks before finalizing the release. I think these

Re: [PD] Ability to access error messages from patch

2021-06-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Here's another idea: a "catch" object that passes messages from inlet to outlet, but then reports errors (somehow or other) only when those errors occur while forwarding the message. cheers M On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:01:15PM +0200, oliver wrote: > Christof Ressi wrote: > > > > > i quite

Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd

2021-06-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 05:44:39PM +0200, IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: > > > Am 8. Juni 2021 17:05:13 MESZ schrieb Miller Puckette via Pd-list > : > >P.S. maybe 'sendto' would be clearer - 'to' could be misunderstood as > >just setting > >a return port/addr for a lat

Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd

2021-06-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
P.S. maybe 'sendto' would be clearer - 'to' could be misunderstood as just setting a return port/addr for a later 'send' (which I think would make netreceive -u unnecessarily stateful). On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 08:01:30AM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > Yep, I was going to prop

Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd

2021-06-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Yep, I was going to propose that too. It would simplify my 'conniption' objects a lot to have that possibility! cheers M On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 02:45:10PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > With the Pd net object overhaul, pd is using sendto with UDP as suggested by > Christof as well, I believe. >

Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd

2021-06-01 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
One solution (which the conniption server/client and quacktrip both use in somewhat different ways) is for a "netreceive" object to wait for an incoming connection and then, once one arrives, immediately to close its own listening port and for a "nestsend" in the same patch to open a connection to

Re: [PD] data structure flickering

2021-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
This is a long-standing problem... I've been putting off optimizing this until I can get my head around some improvements I want to make first. cheers Miller On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:37:02PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hi > > When using "many" data structure scalars, all scalars seem to get

Re: [PD] Miller Puckette's scofo~ object

2021-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
o~ object, that > was implemented by Miller Puckette for score following in pdrp project? I > didn't find anything about it. > I would like to understand better how it works, and if there's a version > newer than 0.2.8. > I'm writing about some strategies of score following in my master work,

Re: [PD] compander-limiter from slop~-help.pd

2021-05-03 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ing some inevitable distortion to adding delay. all part of the Dark Art (tm:) Miller On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:14:42AM +0200, Peter P. wrote: > * Miller Puckette via Pd-list [2021-04-24 17:45]: > > As far as I can tell limiter design is a dark art. Here's one (that imposes > &

Re: [PD] 4-point interpolation changes timbre depending on sample rate

2021-04-29 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
pure-data/pure-data/issues/1305__;!!Mih3wA!XMhJYxjhME5toHvcGQaK14n4LmNU0RlX-iYx637isdS8y31b1M1Q3joyLE6z$ > > > Max > > > > On 28.04.21 18:14, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:56:58AM -0500, Charles Z Henry wrote: > > My 2 cents... > &g

Re: [PD] 4-point interpolation changes timbre depending on sample rate

2021-04-28 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:56:58AM -0500, Charles Z Henry wrote: My 2 cents... The 4-point interpolation scheme gets radically better if the signal it's used on is oversampled (error goes down asymptotically by 24 dB for each doubling of sample rate) - so my own strategy is simply to 4x upsample

Re: [PD] compander-limiter from slop~-help.pd

2021-04-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
As far as I can tell limiter design is a dark art. Here's one (that imposes a hard limit just within the (-1, 1) range - I made this for "music101" where I needed a hard limit and am assuming the input signal is a voice (so unlikely to have extremely fast attacks)... cheers Miller

Re: [PD] Quacktrip now launches with Pd

2021-04-19 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Looks like the 'installer' is badly messed up! I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong. Meanwhile, it looks like you can fix it by renaming Program Files/Pd/ to Program Files/Quacktrip and then re-installing Pd. cheers Miller On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 07:28:53PM -0400, Samuel Burt wrote: >

Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OTOH in this particular application you migth be able to run several Pd processes, one for each audio device, and sync them using netsend/netreceive. (Me, I use the startech "7.1" interface that costs about $25; the "1" is full bandwidth so it gives you 8 independent channels out. But I haven't

Re: [PD] Image from shader back to Gem

2021-02-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think the question is - within a shader, can you 'snap' an image to a texture so that it doesn't have to go back and forth between the GPU and CPU? I'm curious too... I guess there must be a way to do this... cheers Miller On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 08:57:19PM +0100, IOhannes m zm??lnig wrote: >

Re: [PD] [OT]Re: Preset management for Pd Vanilla

2021-01-21 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
that's right - savestate just lets a patch add stuff to its parent (calling) patch when the parent is saved, that is retrieved when reloaded from a file. I don't know of other meanings of "savestate" although the name does (unfortunately) suggest that it's for object archiving ala NeXTStep (and I

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-4 released

2020-12-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd announce: Pd version 0.51-4 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix

2020-12-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi all - Running 10.7, in 0.51-4test2 I get the same thing as in 0.50 (and earlier 0.51 versions I tried, both 32 and 64 bit) - very light grey scrollbars. I looked at textedit for comparison, and the scrollbars there turn darker when the mouse goes over them (which no version of Pd I saw did.)

Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix

2020-12-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
rns white, and it's hard to read. [This font > color is also present on the Help > Find Externals "Show All" button.] > > Other than that, pd's looking good. > > Best, > > fede > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:57 PM Miller Puckette via Pd-list < > pd-lis

Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix

2020-12-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, PD 0.51-4test2 should have Dan's fix. cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:38:06PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Howdy all, > > Miller recently announced a 0.51-4-test1 build which includes some fixes for > the UI on macOS. > > I'd like to include a further build which adds a fix for

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-5 test1 released

2020-12-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
nnounce: Pd 0.51-4 test 1 is out on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html (git repo here: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data) Fixes a lockup on writesf~ to nonexistent directory on windows, and a problem with the help menu on MacOS. Also (and more important), makes several changes to support

Re: [PD] Question about Netty McNetface

2020-12-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
rchive. > > Cheers, > Rick > > > > > On Dec 14, 2020, at 9:36 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > > Best to run your own - there's no way to make sure there's only one group > > at a time trying to use the server running on foo. And anyhow, assuming > &

Re: [PD] Question about Netty McNetface

2020-12-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Best to run your own - there's no way to make sure there's only one group at a time trying to use the server running on foo. And anyhow, assuming you're mostly physically in New Orleans, you'll probably get better latency if you crank up a server locally. cheers Miller On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at

Re: [PD] Happy birthday, Miller!

2020-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Well, it's not an integer-year birthday (my FB account is in my dog's name and list his birthday, not mine). But any day is a 1/365.25thpyear birthday (approximately). cheers Miller On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:21:28PM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > > PD has allowed my soul to sing. > > Thats so

Re: [PD] Best beginner Pd library?

2020-11-26 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Here's a rather small library I use for teaching acoustics: http://msp.ucsd.edu/syllabi/170.18f/lib/index.htm The aim is to get people doing acoustics experiments without having to learn Pd. Doesn't make much 'music' but might be a good starting point. cheers Miller On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.51-3 released

2020-11-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
At long last... Pd 0.51-3 is out: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/ (source only) Fixed verious problems in MACOS 10.15, thanks largely to Dan Wilcox. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list

Re: [PD] Getting frequencies from chords

2020-11-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
That is a wonderful question. Here's a deep and thoughtful paper about it... https://static.uni-graz.at/fileadmin/_Persoenliche_Webseite/parncutt_richard/Pdfs/Pa11_tonality.pdf The rough answer: using theory of consonance and dissonance that goes bacy to Helmholz, Krumhansl and Kessler

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

2020-11-03 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
intended to address the error > opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this > error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything > else I could/should try? > > Ricky > > > On 11/3/20 4:54 AM, Miller Puckette via Pd-anno

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released

2020-11-02 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
Ok... test 5 now. Improved Mac 10.15 permission stuff and some more bug fixes. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

2020-11-01 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Yes, do please (including mergine pull 1145 I suppose) and I'll go on and grab it all - it looks lke it's much more likely to fix problems than to create any new ones. thanks M On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 01:31:34PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > This is already a PR which updates the entitlements for

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-3 test 4 released

2020-10-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
Pd 0.51-3 test 4 is out on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm (or on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data). Mostly minor bug and compilation fixes. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

2020-10-26 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Look in old Pd Convention proceedings. For example there's a wonderful thing called "Moveable Type" in the lobby of the New York Times building. cheers Miller On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 03:54:37PM -0400, bbob wrote: > for my students, I'm looking for examples of work that combines PD and >

Re: [PD] Checking for interest: Scheme interpreter external for PD

2020-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
e > an external but didn't see much on how to interact with the scheduler. (the > stuff that in max uses the clocks and time objects and so on) > > Thanks for the feedback everyone! I'm excited to make it happen. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:44 PM Miller Puckette wrote: > &g

Re: [PD] Checking for interest: Scheme interpreter external for PD

2020-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Pd's a single thread - you'll have a much easier time adding stuff to Pd than to Max :) Miller On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 12:35:02PM -0700, Iain Duncan wrote: > Hi Andy, well I've ordered your book to learn PD, so I'm at least that > committed! :-) My overarching goal is to make tools for

Re: [PD] A fifth IMMEDIATE YES from New Blankets [Checking for interest: Scheme interpreter external for PD (Iain Duncan)]

2020-10-22 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Pd also doesn't do "namspaces" so that reason holds for Pd as well. ALSO, the people at Stanford are very open-source-friendly so having S7 in Pd will probably get some uptake there. cheers Miller On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 08:51:20AM -0700, Iain Duncan wrote: > Thanks Brad and Joe. Brad, yes I

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.51-3test1 released

2020-10-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
Test 1 of version 0.51-3. Mostly bug fixes from 0.51-2. Only new feature is mtof() etc., for expr. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm ... or https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data (source only). cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list

Re: [PD] audio interface with multiple outs on raspberry pi

2020-10-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
uts? > best, > J > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:29 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-list < > pd-list@lists.iem.at> wrote: > > > Yep. Three were Pi 1s which I think couldn't have powered more than one > > interface. I thin kyou could hang two or more off a Pi 4, but th

Re: [PD] audio interface with multiple outs on raspberry pi

2020-10-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
, 2020 at 08:13:17AM +0200, Peter P. wrote: > * Miller Puckette via Pd-list [2020-10-02 17:31]: > > I've used startech "7.1" interfaces (USB powered) with Pis. The "1" is the > > same electronics as teh "7" - it's really just an 8ch output. It has 1/8&

[PD] pdax 0.54 is out, better (but not perfect) with whitespace in Windows

2020-10-03 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
In case any of you is trying to run pd inside Max on a Windows machine, pdmax 0.54 fixes a bug that prevented using it with files with whitespace in the path. cheers Miller ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

Re: [PD] audio interface with multiple outs on raspberry pi

2020-10-02 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I've used startech "7.1" interfaces (USB powered) with Pis. The "1" is the same electronics as teh "7" - it's really just an 8ch output. It has 1/8" connectors which won't age well but it's only $25 or so. I ended up buying 5 for an installation. cheers M On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 12:45:46PM

Re: [PD] latest version fro Power PC?

2020-09-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Nope.. the machine broke... I can't build for PPC anymore. (But I doubt it will make much difference now). cheers M On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 08:57:33PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > I see we have 0.51-0 for old PPC Macintoshes but not 0.51-2 in > http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html -

Re: [PD] pd~ fifo flag and block delays

2020-09-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
For now pd~ is synchronous regardless of whether there are input/output audio signals or not. I've been thinking about making an async possibility, but for now the only way to do that is launch two processes (which you can connect with netsend/netreceive). There is a realtime object by which a

Re: [PD] pd~ fifo flag and block delays

2020-09-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
That _should_ be correct. fifos less than 2 are probably inefficient (but I dn't know that for sure). cheers Miller On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 06:37:42PM -0300, Fede Camara Halac wrote: > ???Hi, > > When using pd~ with -fifo 1, do you get a delay of 1 block like in > throw/catch scenario? > >

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-09 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
d it make sense to have a -quiet flag where stdout text "pd~ > version 0.53, start 1, start 2" doesn't appear - but this is a small > detail, it's also ok if they remain. > And, what do the "start" flags mean? > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 00:04, Miller Puckette wrote: &

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-2 released (updates to pd~ object)

2020-09-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.51-2 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or via github. Updates to the pd~ object, particularly fixing problems when there is white space in the path to pd (as in "Program Files"). The pd~ object is now also working in Max/MSP. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Miller On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 11:35:04PM +0200, Jo??o Pais wrote: > is it possible to do it also in Pd itself? Probably that's why all this > time there was always an extra window when I run Pd. > > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 20:20, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > (It's just chan

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
(It's just changing pd.com to pd.exe in the pd~ code. But meanwhile I'm trying also to fix the space-in-path trouble too.) On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 11:18:33AM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > That's my fault... I need to push out a fix. > > M > > On Tue, Sep 08, 202

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
> > > > > I have tested it with "Max for Live" and its working also with the -nogui > > flag. > > > > Let us know if you found something. > > > > > > PS: the help patch is tweaked for Windows. > > > > > > :) > &g

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
oops, sorry, try again :) M On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 06:12:58PM -0300, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > I'm getting a "File not found" at link > http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/pdmax~-0.5.tgz > > > -- > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. > > On 9/5/2020 5

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - not really working yet

2020-09-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I never saw this behavior on my machine... but the new version fixes several problames and might have fixed this if we're lucky. cheers Miller On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 11:34:41AM +0200, jayrope wrote: > Thank you, Miller, for looking into this > > Using pd~ 0.4 in Max 7.34 with PD 0.50-2 on Mac

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - version 0.5 released

2020-09-05 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, that should be fixed... along with quite a few other oopses. Now available as version 0.5 - on the usual, msp.ucsd.edu cheers Miller On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 07:08:35PM -0300, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > On 9/3/2020 3:03 PM, Jo??o Pais wrote: > > strange, I tried both "pd~ start -nogui $1"

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - not really working yet

2020-09-02 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
o provide a windows binary on your > website when all is great and good? > > thanks again, really stoked about this > > Em qua., 2 de set. de 2020 ??s 13:25, Miller Puckette via Pd-list < > pd-list@lists.iem.at> escreveu: > > > Fearless user Omar Costa Ha

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - not really working yet

2020-09-02 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Fearless user Omar Costa Hamido has already found a crasher bug in pd~ - better hold off using it until I can figure this one out... cheers Miller On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 03:02:29PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 02.09.20 10:47, alfonso santimone wrote: > > Great! Is there any source

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - test version available

2020-09-02 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
du/software.html > > > > Test away... note that people on the Jacktrip google group are asking about > > quacktrip in Max - this might be the easiest way to get that. > > > > cheers > > Miller > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:02:03AM -0700, Miller

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp - test version available

2020-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
way to get that. cheers Miller On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:02:03AM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > Thanks - that tells me exactly what I needed to know :) > > M > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 01:55:57PM -0300, James Correa wrote: > > If the externals are 64bits th

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp

2020-08-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
es Porres > wrote: > > > but you can go ahead try and make it run on 7 and we can test to see if it > > works in 8 > > > > Em ter., 25 de ago. de 2020 ??s 11:36, Alexandre Torres Porres < > > por...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > >> Em seg

Re: [PD] pd~ binary for max/msp

2020-08-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I have remote access to a mac with Max 7 on it, and I've been meaning at least to get pd~ running on that. We don't have Max 8 yet at UCSD... does anyone out there know if Max 7 externs work on Max 8 as well? thanks Miller On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 04:24:29PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > That

Re: [PD] New "fast-forward" message

2020-08-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ossible solution. > > Christof > > On 17.08.2020 02:25, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > On 16.08.2020 05:52, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > > An artificial example (for simplicity) - I want to apply a Pd > > effect to a > > > so

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.51-1 released

2020-08-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
get it. Also, this should be documented somewhere, right? > > cheers > > Em s??b., 15 de ago. de 2020 ??s 22:29, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce < > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu: > > > To Pd-announce: > > > > Pd version 0.51-1 is available on htt

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.51-1 released

2020-08-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.51-1 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. This contains bug fixes, notably fixing problems running on Macintoshes after dark or on system 11. [OT] another announcement, but nothing to

[PD] [PD-announce] quacktrip 0.6 released (point-to-point network audio)

2020-08-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd announce Version 0.6 of quacktrip is up on http://msp.ucsd.edu/tools/quacktrip/ . It's pretty stable now. I've added a variant I call Netty McNetface that supports groups using a centralized repeater. This partly overlaps with AOO's functionality but has a simpler implementation. cheers

Re: [PD] 0.51-1-test1 issues

2020-08-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ooks great! I saw on GitHub that it doesn't work > > yet as expected, but that should be a trivial fix. After all, it's just > > a combobox like in any other GUI program. > > > > Christof > > > > On 15.08.2020 05:59, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > >

Re: [PD] 0.51-1-test1 issues

2020-08-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Sure enough - I think I'd better just go back to the buttons. thanks M On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:09:43AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Em qui., 13 de ago. de 2020 ??s 07:36, Christof Ressi > escreveu: > > > now maybe also add 88.2 and 192k? > > > > Actually, with very heavy patches

Re: [PD] recording 192khz

2020-08-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
e about latency) but for some > reason it seemed even to make this even worse (i was monitoring the signal > with adc -> dac) > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:37 AM Miller Puckette wrote: > > > Oops, sorry I didn't read to the end of your first message :) &

Re: [PD] recording 192khz

2020-08-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
relevant im > on a fresh install of the latest raspbian OS lite > > cheers > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 AM Miller Puckette wrote: > > > This is almost certainly being limited by write speed to the storage > > medium. If the file lives on an SDHC card, you can

Re: [PD] recording 192khz

2020-08-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
This is almost certainly being limited by write speed to the storage medium. If the file lives on an SDHC card, you can probably improve things by getting one that has a higher write speed. (The specifications are very confusing so it might take a while to figure out what kind is how fast).

Re: [PD] 0.51-1-test1 issues

2020-08-13 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
mbobox.htm__;!!Mih3wA!V4GDJ86NR40l6UyH5uRmVGJsPK7sxbnXbQfeZWBMFGmOeMDu7QG7zNEIH8Oc$ > > if "-state" is normal, the text field should be editable, so users can > either select one of the suggested samplerates or type their own. > > Christof > > On 13.08.2020 20:08,

Re: [PD] 0.51-1-test1 issues

2020-08-13 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I thought about that... but I'm not sure, of teh dropdown says one thing and the number field says another, what rate you really think you're running at. Maybe this can be fixed somehow, it just needs thinking through. cheers M On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 02:57:25PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres

Re: [PD] Inlet - Unexpected Behaviour

2020-08-06 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Oops - this apparently crept in as part of the inlet~ message outlet feature. I think I have a simple fix, will stage for a bugfix release. cheers Miller On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 06:31:29PM +0100, matthew brandi wrote: > Dear people > > In my role as village idiot, I am asking whether the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Recall For Papers (New Deadline june 1st 2021): Vortex Music Journal v.9 n.2: A quarter of century of Pd: past, present and future"

2020-08-06 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
All good! cheers M On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 07:11:43PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Hello, as previously announced, there's a next year's edition of the Vortex > Music Journal dedicated to Pure Data. We're now changing/rearranging the > call for a further edition - volume 9 / number 2

Re: [PD] Negative frequency of modulating sinusouid in FT

2020-07-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi Maxi - When you modulate a complex sinusoid with another one you only get one sideband, not both. The sideband's frequency is the sum of the two original frequencies - so if they're exact opposites you only get the result at frequency zero. This is one reason for using complex sinusoids

Re: [PD] plot - 1000 element limit?

2020-07-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi Derek - Pd hasn't ever been carefully tested in cases where objects send huge atomic messages to the gui - but in looking at teh code I don't see that there are any limits to their size (there used to be fixed buffer sizes here and there but it looks like it's all fixed now). So if you want,

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