Re: [PD] VST plugin host

2016-08-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-29 09:45, Vincent Vanbesien (DIEHCO) wrote: > My question concerns the noise~ in input, can I replace it by a midi > notein object ? no. [noise~] produces an audio-signal (a bunch of numbers representing audio samples), wheras [notein] produces a message (a high-level structured event r

Re: [PD] External libraries not found via declare object or startup flags (pd 0.47.1, linux)

2016-08-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-11 09:35, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > I don't understand, > > This what you are asking is not already there on Linux. On Windows it does. the problem is with a non-straightfoward setup and some manual overrides i suggested which now give more trouble than benefits. fgamsdr IOhannes s

Re: [PD] External libraries not found via declare object or startup flags (pd 0.47.1, linux)

2016-08-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-11 00:38, oliver wrote: > Why Pd does not allow to load > recursively also the subfolders of a > folder indicated in the Preferences->Path? > It would be great since one could just add the path /usr/lib/pd/extra... ah yes, the joys of recursively adding / to the recursively searched pat

Re: [PD] Trying to get GEM going on Pd Vanilla / Win10

2016-08-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-04 03:23, Björn Eriksson wrote: > In the patch I do have to [declare -lib /Gem-0.93.3/Gem] or with direct > path where Gem is installed, on my external harddrive that is [declare -lib > G:/pd/extra/Gem-0.93.3/Gem]. well, that sounds like a bad layout. the point of using [declare] is to

Re: [PD] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: Externals for armv8 64 bit

2016-08-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-04 04:09, angelo.arc...@virgilio.it wrote: > Any idea about why does this happen? yes. pd will search a few standard paths, some of them being global others being tight to your pd installation. e.g.: /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/ will be searched by any Pd installation (wherever it

Re: [PD] Trying to get GEM going on Pd Vanilla / Win10

2016-08-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-03 08:05, Björn Eriksson wrote: > created in patches after I have [declare -stdpath Gem]. One of the problems how about [declare -lib Gem] instead? fmnsdf IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.

Re: [PD] R: R: Re: Errors in building pd-extended on Odroid C2

2016-08-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-01 22:02, angelo.arc...@virgilio.it wrote: > I suggest that this message is also displayed on the pages related to > building pd-extended. puredata.info is a *community maintained* webpage. if you have an account¹, you can fix the problems! fgmasdr IOhannes ¹ since you suggested tha

Re: [PD] Externals for armv8 64 bit

2016-08-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-08-02 03:27, angelo.arc...@virgilio.it wrote: > As you can see it is armv8 and 64 bit. i don't know much about arms, but in x86 land you can have a 64bit CPU running a 32bit Operating System. the point is: your CPU specs are not necessarily the arch you are looking for. > I tried to fin

Re: [PD] unable to type certain characters

2016-07-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-26 17:25, Christof Ressi wrote: > thanks for your explanations! now I realize that it's a actually Tcl problem. > >> well, it's pretty easy to create this characters: [makefilename %c] to >> the rescue. > > I already managed to create those characters as symbols with [list tosymbol].

Re: [PD] unable to type certain characters

2016-07-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-26 15:50, Christof Ressi wrote: >> though of course this is not the real reason why these keys are forbidden. > > so what is the real reason? > > > to me it feels weird that these three characters (which are omnipresent in > most languages) this is the reason why they are forbidden:

Re: [PD] unable to type certain characters

2016-07-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-26 13:01, Christof Ressi wrote: > which characters are 'forbidden' in Pd message boxes? E.g. I'm unable to type > a backslash or curly braces. I get the following error message: > > 'keycode #N dropped' (where #N is the ASCII code). yes this is expected behaviour, on all operating s

Re: [PD] matrix_diag_mul_line8~

2016-07-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-25 14:44, patrice colet wrote: > zexy's [multiline~] works similar, and of course [mtx_*~]. >>> >>> >>> so I have to replace [matrix_diag_mul_line8~ 18 50] with [mtx_*~ 18 >>> 18 50] and reconnect everything? i think using zexy's [multiline~] would require a minimum of re-patchi

Re: [PD] matrix_diag_mul_line8~

2016-07-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-25 13:18, patrice colet wrote: > [matrix_diag_mul_line8~] doesn't exist anymore in iemmatrix externals, it never did. (it used to be part of `iem_matrix` (with underscore!), which has been merged into iemmatrix (mostly) > is there an abs somewhere for replacing it? well, given that u

Re: [PD] freeverb~ known Bug

2016-07-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
deken maintainers of a given package might show interest in getting bugs fixed, so contacting them is a good start. when finding an external via deken, you will also be given the information who did the upload. in the case of freeverb~, this spits out chr15m, fjkraan and zmoelnig. fgmasr IO

Re: [PD] deken on osx syntax error

2016-07-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-21 12:20, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > i could circumvent this problem by downloading the externals with deken > on another machine( Windows 10). > still wondering why this error with deken; > the macbook/osx version already too old? most likely the Tcl/Tk version is too old. which version do

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-18 02:58, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Hi IOhannes. > Second version filled, this one has completed tests for the pkgs that needed > more in depth analysis. Those where tested with DependancyWalker, one of them > being iemmatrix. > Only Jamona has not been tested, the rest is done. i've

Re: [PD] Deken and Dependencies

2016-07-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-19 21:49, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Please reconsider your opposition. This is about Deken pkgs not “standard” > ways of anything. i think this is *very much* about the "standard" way to do things. not following the standards of the system you are using will only create problems (and p

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-18 02:58, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Second version filled, this one has completed tests for the pkgs that needed > more in depth analysis thanks. >. Those where tested with DependancyWalker, one of them being iemmatrix. so wha is it flagged as "ok"? > Only Jamona has not been tested

Re: [PD] Deken and Dependencies

2016-07-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-19 00:48, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > on linux: use apt (or yum/emerge/pacman) instead to install any pdexternals. > this is *way* better and much more secure than shipping 3rdparty libraries. > Instead of Deken? no. *with* deken. $ sudo apt-get install pd-deken-apt fgmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] Deken and Dependencies

2016-07-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-19 01:55, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > What do you mean by “more secure”?, Deken packages have checksum. the checksums are not used (yet). however, this is not what i meant. what i did mean is, that each and every DLL installed on your system is likely to have bugs and poses a security ris

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-13 14:00, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > >> Can you provide the first field of each line ? > did you see the attached file?fasdrmIOhannes > Yes of course, I think I can handle downloading and testing(1), but Deken has > no option for getting the url and searching puredata.info for “externa

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-13 12:51, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > probably something like the attached: ... > > Can you provide the first field of each line ? did you see the attached file? fasdrm IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ P

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-13 10:12, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > On 2016-07-12 09:41, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> yes. that's the microsoft way to ship dependencies. > > Lets keep Microsoft out of this, this is a Pd and Pd externals issue. no. we can leave out my rant, but shipping depende

Re: [PD] MIDI and opensoundcontrol: type m for OSC ?

2016-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-12 10:07, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > To precise my main questions: > > Is anybody aware of any other (relevant) soft- or hardware which uses the > type > 'm' for MIDI ? > > or more general: > > Is somewhere out there and does know of an (un)official MIDI-Protocol > definition for

Re: [PD] MIDI and opensoundcontrol: type m for OSC ?

2016-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-12 09:57, Winfried Ritsch wrote: >> The [sendmidi( message would accept any amount of MIDI quads. MIDI sysex >> > messages would be better sent as blobs. >> > Single-byte MIDI messages would still need to be sent as four bytes. >> > > Thanks for the offer, this seems a proper way to imp

Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.

2016-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-11 16:40, Colet Patrice wrote: > Ok I get it, that's quite cool but, so there will be copies of the same > lib into each external folder needing it? yes. that's the microsoft way to ship dependencies. i think it's best to stick with the microsoft way when using w32 (and even better to n

Re: [PD] Recent PD/Gem on Windows

2016-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-07-12 01:57, me.grimm wrote: > how did extended do it? was there not a quicktime lib in the pd-x package > that gem quicktime plugin was linked to? i don't think so. filmQT already (statically) links against "some" QuickTime library (the API wrapper). and shipping a full QuickTime (the ac

Re: [PD] nice pd patch

2016-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-30 06:25, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > A friend of mine thought it was fun to do this > omg, it seems like your friend missed the dangers of fan-out! [trigger] to the rescue!!! fgmasd IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [PD] looking for omde

2016-06-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-20 16:41, Pagano, Patrick wrote: > ?i have a patch that has an object that looks like [omde 4] > > > where might i find such an object? https://www.google.at/#q=omde+puredata => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw40VnBm0yQ => http://www.timvets.net => http://www.timvets.net/software/p

Re: [PD] Dynamic Patching with 0.47

2016-06-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-20 03:38, Miller Puckette wrote: > (I keep wanting to make some > sort of "delete" message to canvases but can't figure out what would be a > usable design). what's wrong with the index that can be found everywhere else? e.g. iemguts adds a "delete" message (to the canvas) that takes a

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] problem with PA and Jack on OS X

2016-06-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-14 12:57, Marco Matteo Markidis wrote: > Dear list, > > Sunday I had a gig in Poland. After connect all cables, mixer and sound > card I started my Pd patch without problems. When I switched on the DSP Pd > frozen and I didn't understand really what happens. After a while, I > started t

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 10:33, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Just to chime in about unzipping-in-Windows aspect, from what I can > tell that would smoothen the Deken experience for Windows users _a > lot_. well, test it https://github.com/pure-data/deken/tree/w32-unzip amd if it works, chances are high that the

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 10:33, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Sorry if I missed this, but what is the point of displaying > incompatible (wrong arch, wrong platform) Deken packages? What would be > harmed if they'd be hidden completely? I fail to see the advantage of > having the possibility of downloading a package

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 10:58, cyrille henry wrote: > > > Le 09/06/2016 10:33, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > >> In my ideal world, I write a Pd project, make sure it properly declares >> what it needs and then people who want to run my project find a list in >> the documentation with the required externals >

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-08 20:07, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > i still believe that a collapsed subtree view would be ok. but that's not to say that i would be opposed to totally hiding incompatible packages (as long as you can easily unhide them). fgmsadr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 08:19, patrice colet wrote: > and the other is about removing/disabling deken installed external ys that would be nice to have. however, it is non-trivial with the current "package architecture" (which is just a zip-file that gets unpacked) to track which files got installed by a giv

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 08:19, patrice colet wrote: > one is about adding a lib and/or a path entry in PureData preferences afaict there is agreement that dependencies should be [declare]d in the patch, rather than system-wide. this makes the ability to automatically add libs/paths to the preferences a very

Re: [PD] iemguts/try and external paths

2016-06-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-02 13:47, Liam Goodacre wrote: > This is a real shame, as [try] would only really be useful in loading > unloaded externals. Should the "yet" in the helpfile give us any hope that it > will one day be fixed? it should give you hope that it is considered to be implemented. please file

Re: [PD] Pd-extended appearance to Pd vanilla 0.46-7

2016-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-09 06:41, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Hi Oscar, > Did you meant that you want 0.46.7 to “look like” pd-extended? > Or that you want pd-extended objects that are missing in 0.46.7 > Probably “appearance” confused IOhannes or myself. indeed. if this *is* the case, then the answer is "no, af

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-08 12:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I'd > like to find a little time to contribute to it, to smooth out the user cool. welcome back. > > * hide all incompatible library version by default (e.g. hide OSX and > Windows versions on GNU/Linux) this is what we are currently doing

[PD] [PD-announce] IEM Music Residency Program 2017 - Call for Applications

2016-06-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
(sorry for cross-posting; please distribute) The IEM – Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics – in Graz, Austria is happy to announce its call for the 2017 Artist-in-Residence program. http://residency.iem.at/ The residency is aimed at individuals wishing to pursue projects in performance,

Re: [PD] Pduino sysex vs. OSC advice

2016-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-02 16:51, Rick Snow wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Dan! > > I spent a bit of time with CmdMessenger yesterday and bumped into the old > comma/semicolon in a pd message issue. At least in the example sketches > the serial communication needed a command tag and a value defined in the >

Re: [PD] vanilla solution for random float

2016-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-06-02 09:25, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > On 02/06/16 08:09, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >> On 05/31/2016 05:50 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >>> i really like the powers of the new [osc*] objects for these kind of >>> things. >> >> here's

Re: [PD] vanilla solution for random float

2016-05-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-31 17:00, Miller Puckette wrote: > I just tried "random 1e8" and "/ 1e8" and it seems to work for me. If it > doens't for you that's a bug I should look at :) i really like the powers of the new [osc*] objects for these kind of things. it allows me to do seemingly trivial things in co

Re: [PD] pd list mailing archive?

2016-05-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-31 11:53, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Hello List, > > I have been checking the mail archive ( > http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/) to find a thread about > "gverb~" that someone posted a while back, but definitely this year, > however, the archive goes up to 2014. Does a

Re: [PD] iemguts/try and external paths

2016-05-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-31 07:01, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I'm running into some trouble getting iemguts/try to load externally declared > objects. As far as I can tell, an external object will not load within try, > even if it has been properly declared, unless it has been successfully loaded > before. In oth

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.47-0 released

2016-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-30 10:12, Max wrote: > On 2016년 05월 30일 16:50, Max wrote: >>> >>> cd /src >>> ln -s ../tcl >>> ln -s ../bin >>> ./pd >> >> awesome, this does work. Thank you Roman. (and thanks IOhannes who had >> written that before to me, I just found it in the archives, sorry) > > > except,

Re: [PD] convert float to bit

2016-05-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-22 17:26, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > hi, anybody know of an external that converts float to bits in pd? [oscformat] fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCR

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-17 09:59, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> ~/.local/lib/pd/extra/ >> ~/pd-externals >> /usr/local/lib/pd-externals >> >> ... in that order. We can consider ~/pd-externals to be obsolete. > > I know the discussion in mostly about externals, but personally I also > have a bunch of home-made abst

Re: [PD] Obfuscate patch?

2016-05-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-12 12:09, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > On 12/05/2016 05:57, Mario Mey wrote: >> Is already done any external/abstract/external-program that obfuscate a >> Pd patch? I mean, by changing the place of every object, changing names >> of send/receive objects to random generated names, adding more

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-11 16:18, Liam Goodacre wrote: > Would it be possible to access [clone]'s unique instance number from within > the patch, a bit like a creation argument? This could be used to achieve > differentiation between the abstractions, ie. if the abstraction contains > "tabread4~ $-1.array" a

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-10 17:19, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 05/10/2016 04:38 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> * the GPL'd externals as binary with their source code and License >> * my closed-source patch > > inal, but i sincerely hope that this is a violation of the GPL. > (though i'm afraid that this is

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-11 06:33, Charles Z Henry wrote: > Modified versions of Pd without the GPL ??? what's the "unmodified version of Pd with the GPL" you seem to imply exists. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@l

Re: [PD] knobs in 0.47

2016-05-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-10 14:57, Liam Goodacre wrote: > Note that I'm still on "test 2", so maybe things have changed. i would suggest to switch to the release asap. the only differences between test2 and the final release are a number of bugfixes. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: [PD] [initbang] in Pd.0.47

2016-05-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-10 12:04, Jérôme Abel wrote: > Hi, > > I notice a "new" behavior of the [initbang] object. When I put directly > in an abstraction, it sends a bang, but when I put it in a subpatch into > the same abstraction, it does not. > > Is it the new and fixed behavior ? confirmed. i'm not sure

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-09 03:32, Chris McCormick wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/05/16 11:12, Miller Puckette wrote: >> Me, when I shout a thte computer, it's more likely to be "where the >> *&$^%& >> did you put the file I just downloaded?" or "why the $%*& did you just do >> that" as opposed to "why did you just ask

Re: [PD] Dynamic search paths and [declare] behavior in Pd.0.47

2016-05-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-08 23:21, Miller Puckette wrote: > Meanwhile a "real" fix > is needed... i think the sensible way would be, if a library loaded via declare could add paths (and load other libraries). e.g. with Gem, there are abstractions and a single external: ~/pd-externals/Gem/Gem-meta.pd ~/pd-exte

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-04 10:56, Antonio Roberts wrote: > Now that Pd vanilla + deken is the preferred way to have a > Pd-Extended-like experience I was just wondering if there are any best > practices or preferred way for loading objects from externals. > > Should we reference the external i.e. [mrpeach/binf

Re: [PD] Warning currently unsupported 176 and 160

2016-05-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-05-04 03:10, ray Y wrote: > im geting this errors: > > Warning currently unsupported 176, and also 160. > > it is slowing down communication. > > how can i fix this? by first telling us what you are doing. fgasdmr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [PD] debian build environment

2016-04-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-28 02:31, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > But I don't > trust apt enough to configure and uninstall the build environment on an > arbitrary machine. i wonder why you don't trust it. Debian uses a a number of (automated) tests to ensure well-behavedness of packages, including th

Re: [PD] mobmuplat editor on Ubuntu

2016-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-27 11:45, Liam Goodacre wrote: > How do I install or run the Mobmoplat editor on Ubuntu 16.04? I can't find > instructions online. checkout the .bat file and do the same manually :-) - start Pd>=0.46 and load the PdWrapper.pd abstraction: $ pd PdWrapper.pd - run the .jar file: $ jav

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-27 09:26, Pierre Guillot wrote: > I do have the same issue with the alert window on Mac. which alert window? what is the "same" you are referring to? mdc IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.a

Re: [PD] [PD autotools on debian 8.4 broke

2016-04-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-26 05:14, Billy Stiltner wrote: > apt-get build-dep puredata > finds no puredata source package you probably need a `deb-src` line in your /etc/apt/sources.lists file. sthg like: deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

Re: [PD] time travelling with AKM320 and Pd

2016-04-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-21 06:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Why can't alsa midi report "connectable" devices inside Pd, to > be displayed in a dropdown? because nobody has implemeted it. personally i find that it preferable to use a specialised software for the patching¹. Pd doesn't necessarily ne

Re: [PD] Can someone clarify how to use libraries with Pd-vanilla on OSX

2016-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-17 19:48, Martin Dupras wrote: > For "Preferences->Startup", I select "new" and then type something > such as "-lib libdir" (quotes not included, obviously). this will try to load a library "-lib libdir". since you really just want to load the "libdir" library, type "libdir" instead. e

Re: [PD] Can someone clarify how to use libraries with Pd-vanilla on OSX

2016-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-18 23:35, Dan Wilcox wrote: > To avoid duplicate errors, etc do basically the same thing without adding the > library path itself: > > * add the single ~/Library/Pd directory path hmm. deken actually uses the search-paths of Pd to determine the directory it downloads stuff into. that

[PD] [ot] hacking the mailing-list (was Re: quiero salir de esta base de datos, gracias)

2016-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-19 20:30, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Well Debian has Mailman, and Mailman has all the tools I need to make it work. > Would you be open to using a future version of Mailman with this feature? i'm eagerly awaiting the mailman3 packages to appear in Debian. i'd prefer to not run

Re: [PD] quiero salir de esta base de datos, gracias

2016-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-14 21:19, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > If I want to just post and follow a single thread on a Mailman list, don't > make me subscribe. Don't even tell me to send straightaway and wait hours > for moderation (git list tries to do this and it's broken). > Just give me a hashcash

[PD] [OT] Re: Have you received this message?

2016-04-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-14 07:45, S.E.P. wrote: > Dear List, > I'm wondering if my messages (e.g. my last two or three) have been accepted > by the list or if they've been rejected due to registration of the wrong > gmail/googlemail variant: http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette > > Let me know if yo

Re: [PD] building extras on arm7 (CHIP)

2016-04-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-07 05:23, Peter Nyboer wrote: > I’ve built PD vanilla for a small linux computer (Next Thing CHIP) from > source. It runs fine, but I don’t have the ‘extra’ objects like expr, choice, > etc. I’m having a problem building the ‘extras’. If I > cd /usr/local/lib/pd/extra > and try “make

Re: [PD] listing PD's external platforms

2016-04-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-06 13:38, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I'm happy to help with this project, although I shouldn't be the one to lead > it, as I'll only get it wrong. why not? start it on some platform where others can join your efforts and correct all the errors :-) e.g. puredata.info > If anyone wants to

Re: [PD] Fullscreen, not GEM, just a PD screen?

2016-04-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-05 03:47, Peter Nyboer wrote: > A simple, somewhat newbie question: Is it possible to display a regular PD > window in fullscreen, or position it to fake fullscreen, on Linux? It seems > like it should be trivial to hide the application menu bar, but I have yet to > find anything - “f

Re: [PD] webpage to xml

2016-04-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-04-02 12:12, Csaba Láng wrote: > Dear list, > > is there any option to convert automatically webpage content to xml in PD? > I would like to create some interactive installations based on web content, > and still looking for a simple way. > how do you convert webpage content to XML in *a

Re: [PD] holding keys on patchload to affect object behaviour

2016-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-31 12:32, Marco Matteo Markidis wrote: > So, it is not the best programming practice but it works and it is quite > transparent from the user point of view. i think it is less question of "good programming practice" but of (not) breaking functionality. if you introduce some clock delay,

Re: [PD] DSP and Gem in the same instance of Pd

2016-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-31 11:19, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > BTW: Why does the graphics rendering|clock have precedence over the > audio rendering (at least, it seems to be like that in Pure Data/Gem)? I > guess most softwares do it the other way around, since clicks are much > more noticeable than a frame being

[PD] [Scope~] (was Re: can signal inlets that aren't the main inlet have float or message methods?)

2016-03-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-30 00:03, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Yes, there's a very good reason to employ a solution to a name clash. > Also, using a capital letter in an external name is a poor solution to that > problem. Even calling the thing "pdrunsonwindowstooscope~" would have well, yes or no

[PD] outdated libpd info (was Re: where's extended?)

2016-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-29 11:39, Christof Ressi wrote: > Cool! > > By the way, the libpd section is outdated just to make this clear: i changed the description of for Pd-extended only because the project is obivously abandoned and therefore nobody is maintaining the information on puredata.info either. sinc

[PD] [ot] Re: garbled list digests?

2016-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-29 05:15, Dan Wilcox wrote: > No offense, but I’m asking the list to see if Mailman is misconfigured or if > there’s a setting I’m missing and not for suggestions on digest alternatives. > I prefer to host as *few* websites and email address anyway. > > Again, the digests work fine 90

Re: [PD] can signal inlets that aren't the main inlet have float or message methods?

2016-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-28 22:35, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > "Scope~" already has a capital "S" in the name for no _good_ reason, so it's > not like the method space is the only discrepancy. the *very good* reason for the capital "S" is that back in the days when cyclone was developed, Pd (vanilla)

Re: [PD] where's extended?

2016-03-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-28 21:20, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended > > and say it is unmaintained > thanks for the suggestion. done. fgamsdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@l

[PD] [ot] unflooding the Pd-list (was Re: garbled list digests?)

2016-03-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-29 05:12, Max wrote: > What about using a separate mail account for the list (you already have > two domain names in your footer) and then making a folder in your > mail.app where a filter automatically moves the [PD] messages into? why would you need a special account for that? i just

Re: [PD] can signal inlets that aren't the main inlet have float or message methods?

2016-03-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-28 22:35, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Hi Derek,Have a look at the inlet_new code in m_obj.c. But after skimming it > I don't see > any sensible way to achieve what you want. did i miss something? why would it not work with proxy inlets? am,sdr IOhannes signature.asc Desc

Re: [PD] know if audio is in patch?

2016-03-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-29 01:53, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > well, found a way sigh... do you mind sharing your findings, so that other people may know as well? fgm,asdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-23 10:47, oliver wrote: > for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was > version 0.43 (how so ?) Debian/wheezy shipped Pd-0.43-2 Debian/jessie ships Pd-0.46-2 so if perchance you are using a Raspbian version that is older than two years, it might come without unsur

Re: [PD] zexy compilation issue with msys2

2016-03-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-21 15:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Yeah, I can do that. I'm not sure why it would fuzz, as the only changes are > inserting A_CANT. most likely because i'm trying to apply the patch onto another version of zexy than you. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: Open

Re: [PD] zexy compilation issue with msys2

2016-03-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-21 10:50, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > is there any specific reason to not use v2.2.6? also: would it be possible to send the patch in a format that `git am` recognizes? $ git am /tmp/acant.patch Patch format detection failed $ git --version git version 2.7.0 fgmasdr IOhan

Re: [PD] zexy compilation issue with msys2

2016-03-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-21 00:10, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Before I pin to a newer version, here's the only revision I could find from > Pd-l2ork that needs to be merged upsteam. It just adds an A_CANT arg to the > "dsp" method of signal objects for the off-chance that a user sends a > "dsp" mes

Re: [PD] external with more than 6 inlets possible?

2016-03-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-17 03:06, Miller Puckette wrote: > yes -- and you can allocate the temporary outputs on the stack using > alloca(). or allocate them on the heap in the "dsp"-routine: at this point you know whether the signals are recycled and how many samples you need, so you don't need to re-allocate

Re: [PD] Wake up subpatches

2016-03-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-10 16:41, Esteban Viveros wrote: > If I run keyboard.pd directly from the folder no problem. But if I call it > like external I have an error but just move the object and the gui works. so what's this ominous "error"? > If we go to abstractions folder and run the patch keyboard-abs.p

Re: [PD] Wake up subpatches

2016-03-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-10 16:01, Esteban Viveros wrote: > Hahahaha... No [vis 1( would have been my next question... :D > > What I need is someway to call a actualization of the pd window canvas (I > guess), because I have a patch which lag to call a image. When I move the > pd patch window, click in anythin

Re: [PD] multiple [send] arguments

2016-03-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-05 14:55, Liam Goodacre wrote: > The only way I can see of using the right inlet to achieve a multiple send > involves [list-drip] and one [float] object, which isn't very efficient. why do you need it to be efficient. don't get me wrong, efficiency is always a good thing; but the use-

Re: [PD] Wake up subpatches

2016-03-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-10 15:26, Esteban Viveros wrote: > Is there any way to wake up a subpatch? Send a message to it with redraw it > or reload... something like [clear ( message clean a subpatch, but to > wake up it. a subpatch never sleeps. so what does "wake up" mean? do you mean [vis 1(? fgasmdr IO

Re: [PD] pd-extended keeps losing track of extras

2016-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-08 12:05, oli_kester wrote: > I'm using pd-extended 0.43.4 ...sigh...¹ > on 64-bit Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. > This isn't to do with the issues pd-extended has running on 64-bit Linux is > it? no. there are virtually no issues² with Pd-extended on 64-bit linux, regardless of what the splas

Re: [PD] communication with system ...

2016-03-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-02 12:20, oliver wrote: > both objects are very old and i just wanted to ask, if there's a little > more "up to date" way to do this how would you envision an "up to date" way to run a system command? how would it differ from what you have now? (i could think of: query some cloud-base

Re: [PD] drag and drop plugins

2016-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-01 15:49, patrice colet wrote: > > > I've got pd-0.46.7 on Manjaro archlinux and it doesn't work for me, same > error with the fixed version. > there is no tkdnd package for archlinux, the aur version is dead, I've > compiled and installed this one: > > https://github.com/petasis/tkdn

Re: [PD] remove package "puredata-import" on debian linux(ubuntu)

2016-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-01 15:42, Jonghyun Kim wrote: > Uninstalling *puredata-import* is safe to use Pd? my apt-get system says: > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > puredata-import > > Can I remove this? if you don't want/use it and not other package requires it, you can. > Why my system asks

Re: [PD] drag and drop plugins

2016-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-01 10:21, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2016-03-01 07:52, patrice colet wrote: >> Attached is a script for creating an object if a pd file in search >> folders is dragged on a canvas but it doesn't work. This is doing a kind >> of loop when the plugin do >

[PD] drag and drop plugins (was Re: hurleur ?... (drag and drop feature))

2016-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-01 07:52, patrice colet wrote: > Attached is a script for creating an object if a pd file in search > folders is dragged on a canvas but it doesn't work. This is doing a kind > of loop when the plugin do > pdsend "$mytoplevel obj $x $y ", the console complains > 1000x that the object is

Re: [PD] hurleur ?... (drag and drop feature)

2016-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-01 07:52, patrice colet wrote: > I tried the plugin on pd-vanilla, it doesn't create objects when a patch > is dragged on a canvas, it is supposed to create a text but nothing is > happening. afaict the gui plugins "works", but it (a) might not be what you want and (b) has some bugs tha

Re: [PD] hurleur ?... (drag and drop feature)

2016-02-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-02-29 12:25, oliver wrote: > hi, list ! > > a lot of interesting pd patches i was sniffing for in the web point to > this website, which is not existing anymore. > > http://puredata.hurleur.com > > does anybody know, what happened to them ? http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info aka http://forum

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