Hello to all,
In these days where some of us are really wondering about buying an *ist-D
or not, the question of hi-resolution scanning of negatives or slides come
up to the surface again. I've read in the press some enthusiastic reports
about the new scan elite 5400 : on the paper, it's a 5400dpi
In my lifetime, the consumer has moved from box cameras through to 126 and
later to 110 and finally to 35mm by way of the point-and-shoot cameras. 35mm
was the format we used for creating slides and B&w From this turn to our
format, the consumer has driven what they want in cameras - simple and eas
Cyril MARION wrote:
Hello to all,
In these days where some of us are really wondering about buying an *ist-D
or not, the question of hi-resolution scanning of negatives or slides come
up to the surface again. I've read in the press some enthusiastic reports
about the new scan elite 5400 : on the p
> Fra: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Cyril MARION wrote:
> > Hello to all,
> >
> > In these days where some of us are really wondering about buying an *ist-D
> > or not, the question of hi-resolution scanning of negatives or slides come
> > up to the surface again. I've read in the press some e
Not intended to support or refute anyones argument.
1/3 stop is approximately 26% variation.
1/6 stop is approximately 12.2% variation.
1/10 stop is approximately 7% variation.
If you said you could visually ascertain (just looking at slides on a
lightbox, no densitometer) less than 10% variation
Additional figures :
Theoretical D-max : 4.8
Measured D-max: 3.8 (a big difference !)
The test has been performed in Chasseur d'Images #255, July 2003 issue,
(including a test of the *ist page 141...)
For slide scans, the Scan Elite 5400 got 5 stars for both contrast/density
and color (satur
Why a new physical mount, then? Surely they could do the electronics
with a serial protocol, which would require, at minimum,
ground, power, and signal: three contacts.
As I understand it, the EOS mount is much different
mechanically from the old FD mount. Wider throat.
Are other factors at work
I'd be tempted to buy extension tubes as a first step towards
macro. Cheaper than a dedicated lens, and can often get you
the shot you want.
Steve Larson wrote:
Hi,
Vivitar Series 1 90-180/4.5 or Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 with 1:1 adapter,
coupled with an LX you have a great macro system.
Accessor
It depends on what you mean by "do not support" and "will not work".
They will work 100% functionally WITHOUT the light-meter. When the meter is
operated a K/M lens will be restricted to its widest aperture.
One of yesterdays posts (forgotten from whom, sorry) mentioned a custom
function that mi
Anthony Farr wrote:
Its high Dmin was
meant to hold better highlight detail than existing transparency films when
translated to the output of offset presses, and it was never meant to look
its best for lightbox display, and certainly never when projected.
It can be projected, and looks good if you
Looks like much better stuff than the shots
you showed us when all you had was an old zoom.
Keep it up.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, not "mine." I finally finished the advanced photography class I was taking and it ended in a little show. Actually, when everything was hung (eight students remaini
Here's a hypothetical question. Definitely hypothetical, my wife's not that
kind of girl.
Presuming that a person took pornographic photos (not of anything illegal,
of course), but never intended to distribute them and always meant to keep
them private, is that illegal or immoral? That is, if it
Marnie wrote:
Marnie,
Thanks for posting these images.
This is excellent work. You've reached a standard in months
that I still aspire to after a mere three decades!
Some might argue this demonstrates the value of tuition. I
would argue that it demonstrates that you have a great
talent, a
Alan Chan wrote:
>
> The Minolta 5000dpi is around the corner...
Alan,
Please would you enlighten us a little more?
Thanks,
John
> Fra: "whickersworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Alan Chan wrote:
> >
> > The Minolta 5000dpi is around the corner...
>
>
> Alan,
>
> Please would you enlighten us a little more?
>
http://www.minoltaeurope.com/phptemplates/digital/fs.php?Language=english&Product=DiMAGE_Scan_Elite_5400&Part=prod
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1553596&size=lg
;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> However, during the class there were also a lot of things I disagreed with
> too, like "in wild life shots there should be at least one eye visible." Okay, who's
> rule is that??? I can see where that is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 6/15/2003 7:22:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> > I agree with you, Bruce,
> >
> > The barn is my fave, too.
> >
> > Well done, Marnie! All were wonderful shots. So now that
> > it's all over, what do you think of your
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why a new physical mount, then? Surely they could do the electronics
>with a serial protocol, which would require, at minimum,
>ground, power, and signal: three contacts.
I've thought of that too, but apparently they don't use a serial
protocol - at le
Hi, Marnie,
So, in other words, nothing much has changed from your initial assessment, which was
about two or three classes into the course.
He's a good stock photographer. A nice guy. But a lousy teacher (if what a teacher
is supposed to do is not merely pass on knowledge, but motivate and e
By first inspection this lens lives up to the expectation. It is lighweight for what
it does; it doesn't really weight significantly more than the FA 120/4 macro. It is
also very well made. No wobbly elements or rattles. It has metal filter threads and
whole thing seem very solid. I'm surprised
won't that reduce the life of the slides to a few dozen viewings?
Herb
- Original Message -
From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 06:30
Subject: Velvia (wasRe: Exposure)
> It can be projected, and looks good if you have a powerful en
Bob,
I think the biggest consumer camera thing in my lifetime has been Polaroid.
Edwin Land sold a lot of cameras and film by marketing the same thing that
George Eastman did. You snap the picture, we do the rest...but WE do it
instantly!
I think there is a strong parallel between Polaroid a
Herb wrote:
HC> won't that reduce the life of the slides to a few dozen viewings?
With a good, thick IR filter element before the slide, no. The
impact of "cold" light is minimal.
Servus, Alin
---
Xnet scaneaza automat toate mesajele
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Brendan wrote:
> Get a revesal ring and a 28mm F2.8 and enjoy ( Aaron
> where is my reversal ring!!!)
Reversing an FA28/2.8 onto my bodies yields teh worst possible results
I've ever had. There's massive flare in the middle of each and every
image.
--
http://www.infotainment
So what is it? An idea? If it
helps, I upload the illustration of this lens at
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/PL41410_new.pdf.
Hello Alan, sorry I can't help you but I have downloaded this file.
That is the only service manual for lens I have never found; have you
others ?
I have read only q
It can be projected, and looks good if you have a powerful enough lamp. The
standard entry level 150 W is underpowered, 250 W works well, some Kodak
carousel models have 300-350W lamps, and if you're really nuts you may go
for a 500 W xenon lamp. Which will blow away your mind, you just won't
b
True, it will get you the shot, but not edge to edge sharpness that a
true macro will generate.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Which macro lens
won't that reduce the life of the slides to a few dozen viewings?
Not in my experience. However, the best/least expensive dupe is accomplished
in camera - one to print on Ilfochrome (or scan) and one to project.
Paranoia does have some value.
Ed
Herb
> It can be projected, and looks good if
Steve, the request was for nature shots, bugs etc.
In my experience, edge-to-edge sharpness is often
not needed in such photography. I'd be hard pressed,
on many of my shots, to show a difference
between macro lens shots and a short telephoto on
extension.
Steve Larson wrote:
True, it will get you
Somehow I have managed to collect three macro lenses. Tokina 90F2.5 with
matched doubler. (excellent well made Quite heavy.) Pentax 100F4 dental macro.
(small very light 49mm front, and a joy to use. Finally Kiron 105 F2.5 1:1 (Big
heavy and without a doubt the best of the lot for useability wit
That would be a good starting point using tubes, as they aren`t
very expensive. The only bummer would be getting enough
shutter speed for handheld shots.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: M
Jostein wrote:
To a relatively speaking small company,
that kind of investment has to be a risk to take. -Which of course increase
the importance of finding the right moment to enter the market.
REPLY:
Relative and relative. Relative to General Motors they are a small company but file as
many p
Mark wrote:
What baffles me is that the Mz-S - just released a couple of years ago - not only
supports the aperture ring but _needs_ it for aperture priority and metered manual
operation. I don't think releasing a new, limited mount in the new flagship would have
made a lot of sense, but if Pen
In a message dated 6/16/2003 6:34:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Hi, Marnie,
>
> So, in other words, nothing much has changed from your initial assessment, which was
> about two or three classes into the course.
Pretty much. Although once I realized he really was tryi
Dear Ed and Kenneth,
> "If you are looking for a new projector check out the Kodak
> Ektagraphic series, it's what I've seen most used by the
> pros - before digital projection."
>
I'm no expert, but I was told the "only" difference between the cheaper
Kodak carousel projectors and the Ektagraphi
In a message dated 6/16/2003 5:53:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Marnie,
>
> Thanks for posting these images.
>
> This is excellent work. You've reached a standard in months
> that I still aspire to after a mere three decades!
>
> Some might argue this demonstrates t
Vivitar Series 1 105/2.5. Best bang for the buck for a lens that goes
life-size without accessories, is sharp as anything Pentax makes and has the
little "A" on it for those pesky new bodies.
Or. Pentax SMC-A 200/4 macro or Pentax SMC-FA 200/4 ED IF
macro... But who can justify the cost..
Dear Ed and Kenneth,
> "If you are looking for a new projector check out the Kodak
> Ektagraphic series, it's what I've seen most used by the
> pros - before digital projection."
>
I'm no expert, but I was told the "only" difference between the cheaper
Kodak carousel projectors and the Ektagraphic
No reframing, no puddling around, etc.
Reminds me of my wife and how she shoots.
Instinctive, no fooling around, first shots usually a keeper.
She's much better than I am at most types of photography, I am
better than her at stuff that requires patience. She's _much_
quicker, a by-product of her 5
The State cannot legislate morality no matter how it hard they
try. Pornography
is more in the eye of the beholder than anything. The question of legality, no
matter what the justification depends on the jurisdiction.
At 08:40 PM 6/16/03 +1000, you wrote:
Here's a hypothetical question. Defini
Paul Eriksson wrote:
Ok, please help someone ebay illiterate. What pros and cons are there
with paypal?
I balked at the moment when they asked for my social security number.
cheers,
caveman
Lon wrote:
At a given price point, pan-tilt is usually a better
value. More precise, locks down better, steadier.
Unless you know you need a ballhead (which are easier
to use when recomposition is frequent), stick with
a pan-tilt. This amounts to conventional wisdom
as I understand it, and my ex
--- Tony Cogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> I want to quit using close-up filters and start
> using a macro lens for
> flowers, insects, etc. Which lens would be a good
> place to start?
For insects a 200 Macro is definitely the no. 1 choice. It is great for flowers as
well. The working d
Christian wrote:
Or. Pentax SMC-A 200/4 macro or Pentax SMC-FA 200/4 ED IF
macro... But who can justify the cost?
REPLY:
Justification? Who needs to justify things? :o)
Pål
> Then they have an efficiency problem. Like in pouring in more effort and
> money than C/M/N, and lagging behind in results.
Huh? This WAS the result!
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If a radial contact layout has some advantage,
>what is it?
I don't think there is an advantage. It's neither better nor worse, just
different. That said, the radial arrangement does get the contacts out
of the lens mount itself, which is steel (in bette
On 03.6.16 2:14 PM, "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since several people had the same problem...
I am not sure if it is any kind of "problem" per se. One does not notice it
until told. Perhaps just the way it is designed :-). It does not give me
any problem.
Not that I am defending Mr.
"Paul Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, please help someone ebay illiterate. What pros and cons are there with
>paypal?
Pro:
Fast and simple way to send money.
Con:
Pay Pal takes a cut of every transaction (about 3%).
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Let's say I win an auction for $10, I pay $10 for a item, do I have to pay
3% or does the seller pay it (out of the $10)?
thanks again
Paul
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Paypal?
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:38:49 -0400
"Paul Eri
On June 16, 2003 02:14 pm, Paul Eriksson wrote:
> Ok, please help someone ebay illiterate. What pros and cons are there with
> paypal?
I can only talk from the point of somebody that sends money.
Pros:
Fast payment so the seller ships the item fast. Hopefully.
N
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Paul Eriksson wrote:
> Let's say I win an auction for $10, I pay $10 for a item, do I have to pay
> 3% or does the seller pay it (out of the $10)?
Seller eats the cost.
(currently very hateful of paypal for having to endure verifying my
account, and now i see either the vendo
> Let's say I win an auction for $10, I pay $10 for a item, do I have to pay
> 3% or does the seller pay it (out of the $10)?
Unless they've changed it since I signed up, it works like
this:
The person sending money never pays an extra fee to
PayPal.
People can get no-fee accounts if they never
I've seen similar offers, that didn't include a Photo CD but a Picture CD.
There's a big difference between the two. Low resolution scans in the
Picture CD vs 5 levels of scans in the Photo CD (from
128X192 to 2048X3072 pixels).
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EM
ium format
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:12:48 -0400
>
>
>> Pentax has just announced in Japan that they are developing a new medium
>> format camera that can take Kodak digital back, with assistance from kodak:
>>
>> http://h
Nice work, great presentation. Thanks for posting.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: "My" Photography Show
> Well, not "mine." I finally finished the advanced photography class I was
taking an
In other words, this is not necessarily a digital back but a digital medium format
camera; that is, a camera that take one of the Pentax MF lenses.
Is this the rumored 645D or is it related to the new and compact 67, or is it both?
Pål
We don't need no stinkin' lens mount compatibility. It impairs new
equipment sales and slows down progress. They should be changed on a
regular basis, each two years or so. This would prevent such lowly
tactics as buying used, which impairs cash flow to the company and makes
difficult to recove
Pål Jensen wrote:
In other words, this is not necessarily a digital back but a digital medium format camera; that is, a camera that take one of the Pentax MF lenses.
What is the base of your assumption that it will take existing lenses ?
cheers,
caveman
Yes, the Picture CDs that I have gotten were optimized for 4 x 6-inch
prints. Not that you can't rez them up a bit on your own but you probably
wouldn't be real excited about printing them at 8 x 10.
Photo CDs are a lot more expensive here (where I am) $2.00 - $2.50 per image
scanned but the p
Well, after a full week of printing, mounting, matting and framing I
succeeded in getting everything ready. This morning/afternoon I went
down to the East End Food Co-op and Vegetarian Cafe and hung the whole
lot on the walls! ;-) I'm pretty pleased with how it all looks. However
this exhibit works
Lon, your comments are interesting. Some of the things that tend to make the
first shot a keeper:
1. Can't afford a lot of film and processing. This kind of makes one find a
picture before shooting.
2. You don't get no second chance. This is probably where you wife's
technique comes from.
3. Loo
T Rittenhouse wrote:
ANY OTHERS?
Visual artistic sense is innate for women and acquired for men
(exceptions exist). If you don't believe that, try to decorate your room
or house yourself.
The only photographic domain where men are definitely better is porn.
They know exactly what a man would wan
PayPal fee is to the seller. BidPay on the other hand charges the buyer.
>From a buyers viewpoint there are almost no disavantages to PayPal. Of
course, you may overspend if you use your credit card.
The seller has to provide lots of information. The funds are not
automatically transferred to the
På mandag, 16. juni 2003, kl. 22:11, skrev Caveman:
Kenneth Waller wrote:
6 MP is simply good enough for a large number of folks.
snip, snip...
The biggest problem with 6 MP is the wide angle problem.
Huh? Isn't the wide angle "problem" caused by the size of the sensor?
Per se, not even that. The
How important is the "Electronic cable release socket cap", that little
bit of plastic that covers the socket for the cable release on the ZX-M
and related bodies?
Just realized that mine turned up missing. At first glance, it doesn't
seem very important -- the cap itself doesn't make a tight
On 03.6.16 3:44 PM, "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In other words, this is not necessarily a digital back but a digital medium
> format camera; that is, a camera that take one of the Pentax MF lenses.
> Is this the rumored 645D or is it related to the new and compact 67, or is it
> both
I use it regularly.
Pros:
Speed.Many buyers prefer to use it.
You get your money quickly and safely.
Availablity. Get a PayPal debit card @ no charge.
Makes life easier when you're paying cash.
Plastic. It's the only way many have to take pl
PDML doesn't like me any more, it keeps removing me lately because of
bouncing emails.
I am on a Linux mailing list also, it also happens there that I get
messages that there are messages bounced, but I never get removed from
it.
I am not sure where the problem is: is it with btinternet? Should I
I don't think so. IIRC, the 0.95 mounted to an outside breech lock on the 7
& 7S, it did not fit the inner 39mm Leica mount, nor the earlier cameras.
Also, the SLR lens has to be mounted ahead of the mirror housing which
requires a larger diameter mount. Plus, the EF mount has a shorter film to
fl
Dag T wrote:
Traditional wide
angles tend to focus light toward the edges of the film at a sharp
angle, and are therefore not very suitable for digital cameras.
What would be the solution ? Exaggerated retrofocus design ? How about
sharpness and distortion ? Oh, wait, never mind. You Fix It Late
Dag T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Also, the chips have dielectric filters on the sensors separating the
>colours. These filters are very angular dependent. Traditional wide
>angles tend to focus light toward the edges of the film at a sharp
>angle, and are therefore not very suitable for dig
I could be wrong, but setting the goal to keep this lens as compact as
possible there were a few compromises in several areas which the FA43
doesn't suffer.
1) The helical thread area is a bit small (F101) to support the weight of
the front section. I believe this causes the strange characteris
Ok, please help someone ebay illiterate. What pros and cons are there with
paypal?
They charged you certain % when you receive payment, everytime. The most
basic account is next to useless you will need to upgrade to Premier Account
as soon as you need to do some real business. There is like 10
Let's say I win an auction for $10, I pay $10 for a item, do I have to pay
3% or does the seller pay it (out of the $10)?
The charge is always on the one who received the payment. So the answer is,
seller. You only pay $10.
regards,
Alan Chan
_
I don't know what caused the problem, but it happened to me 2 days ago. I
just resubscribe again and it seems to work fine.
regards,
Alan Chan
PDML doesn't like me any more, it keeps removing me lately because of
bouncing emails.
I am on a Linux mailing list also, it also happens there that I get
På mandag, 16. juni 2003, kl. 23:09, skrev Mark Roberts:
Dag T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Also, the chips have dielectric filters on the sensors separating the
colours. These filters are very angular dependent. Traditional wide
angles tend to focus light toward the edges of the film at a sharp
I hate you! ;-)
At 06:25 PM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There are still 'K' lenses in the current catalog. I'm glad I didn't buy
>one of these in the last year or so. Then I'd really feel shafted.
I bought a used K 15mm f/3.5 (sob!)
--
Mark Roberts
Photogr
Yeah, just ahead of the other two...
cheers,
frank
Peter Alling wrote:
> Got here this time.
>
> At 06:09 PM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >Sent a couple of posts over an hour ago, which still haven't made it to
> >the list.
> >
> >Just testing...
> >
> >-frank
> >
> >--
> >"What a senseless was
It works from the body, just like the PZ-1p. Remember, most people here
complained about the MZ-S not having aperture available from the body. Now
the complaint is they want to use the aperture ring instead of the body.
Go Figure!
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROT
frank theriault wrote:
Here's one of my favourite shots of hers, taken with a disposable that she
took as a back up, and had to use because she ran out of 35mm film:
http://www.urbancaravan.com/images/caravan.jpg
I like it too.
I freaking hate her!
C'mon. Love her. First, it's your sister. Secon
Bill Owens wrote:
It works from the body, just like the PZ-1p. Remember, most people here
complained about the MZ-S not having aperture available from the body. Now
the complaint is they want to use the aperture ring instead of the body.
Go Figure!
The decent thing would be to allow you to use it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2935271526&category=15248
This guy must be a really fascinating character!
collin
You sure she isn't a ringer, just how well do you know this woman.
At 06:43 PM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
Here's one of my favourite shots of hers, taken with a disposable that she
took as a back up, and had to use because she ran out of 35mm film:
http://www.urbancaravan.com
Dust and dirt and other types of crud tend to get in there too, if you don;t
have the cap. After a few years, the connection can corrode, as well, uless
it is gold plated.
Len
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How important is that little c
Yes, make a complaint. It may not do much good but, at least you will have
voiced your dissatisfaction.
Hotmail has a fair amount of problems in this respect, too, but I haven't
been able to find anyone that will listen to my complaint. Hell, as far as
I can see, there's no way for me to voice
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: a thought on marketing philosophy
> 6 MP is simply good enough for a large number of folks.
snip, snip...
> The biggest problem with 6 MP is the
Kenneth Waller wrote:
6 MP is simply good enough for a large number of folks.
snip, snip...
The biggest problem with 6 MP is the wide angle problem.
Huh?
Isn't the wide angle "problem" caused by the size of the sensor?
Per se, not even that. The problem is caused by using the sensor in a
camer
In a way it's bull but in another way it's not. Traditionally, at least in
the US, we seem to train our girls from childhood towards the artistic side
and our boys towards the technical side. Not that they both aren't capable
of learning either side.
Len
---
From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTEC
Did you want a camera that's a SLR but also has a rangefinder, and a
digital viewfinder ? Don't wait anymore, here it is ! And it takes
Pentax lenses !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2935314567&category=15240
ROFL !
cheers,
caveman ;-)
P.S. Disclaimer: if you bid on that on
This list,. on occasion, resembles "slow glass." If anyone but me
remembers what THAT is!
Just testing...
keith whaley
frank theriault wrote:
>
> Sent a couple of posts over an hour ago, which still haven't made it to
> the list.
>
> Just testing...
>
> -frank
On June 16, 2003 05:11 pm, frank theriault wrote:
> pooched - didn't even use a handheld, didn't even know about Sunny 16, just
> went by the exposure "instructions" on the inside of the film box! Came
> back with incredible photos of Egypt.
The stuff on the box is basically Sunny 16. It
This is unusual. Most of the time they are totally silent until a
year after they release the product. Getting into the act early with
product plans being announced is quite a change.
At the least, it indicates that they don't intend to give up on Medium
Format.
Bruce
Monday, June 16, 2003,
Keith Whaley wrote:
This list,. on occasion, resembles "slow glass." If anyone but me
remembers what THAT is!
Just testing...
Shaw's novel ? do I get brownie points ?
cheers,
caveman
I personally have had no problems with PayPal. They do what they say
and charge what they say they charge. It has made ebay far easier to
deal with. I hate having to deal with a bank check or money order.
Bruce
Monday, June 16, 2003, 12:21:26 PM, you wrote:
>> Let's say I win an auction fo
What in the hell is that thing?
--- Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you
want a camera that's a SLR but also has a
> rangefinder, and a
> digital viewfinder ? Don't wait anymore, here it is
> ! And it takes
> Pentax lenses !
>
>
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Are you planning to redeeming them?
At 08:30 PM 6/16/03 -0400, you wrote:
Keith Whaley wrote:
This list,. on occasion, resembles "slow glass." If anyone but me
remembers what THAT is!
Just testing...
Shaw's novel ? do I get brownie points ?
cheers,
caveman
To grasp the true meaning of socialism
Hi,
For the doggy people, some pics by my friend Holli:
http://asiafoto.com/pets/dogs/index.htm
Warning: the page is a bit slow to load
Cheers,
Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)
http://members.ebay.com.au/aboutme/distudio/
PO Box 701
HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481
AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GM
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It works from the body, just like the PZ-1p. Remember, most people here
>complained about the MZ-S not having aperture available from the body. Now
>the complaint is they want to use the aperture ring instead of the body.
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>Go Figure!
The PZ-1p allowed
"Even though it looks very complicated, it's just basically a point
and shoot."
;-)
Fred
In a message dated 6/16/2003 4:38:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Well that's bull. But your're entitled to your opinion I
> suppose.
I agree -- it's bull. The best photographer in my last class was this guy who had
already taken his photos pre-class (the teacher didn
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