K 18mm f/3.5 and Self Introduction

2004-04-09 Thread Oh Cheng Yu
Hi everybody, This is my first post here after joining this list for a year or so. I have the K 18mm f/3.5 which was passed down to me by my father. From this list, this seems to be a rare and highly regarded and hardly mentioned. From my experience, at f/3.5 corners are soft and is prone to

Re[2]: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Kevin, Friday, April 9, 2004, 7:35:30 AM, you wrote: KT I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern KT hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same. This is simply a myth. The Coriolis force caused by the Earth's rotation is far too weak to have any

Re: Get Smart :)

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
Seems to be quite a fan group out there. Several sites on the web about the show. Guess I was confused, she was 99. I will stick with lovely no matter what her number. Actress who played 99 was Barbara Feldon by the way. -- Bill D. Casselberry wrote: graywolf wrote: I though it was a

Re: K 18mm f/3.5 and Self Introduction

2004-04-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Welcome! From the extensive list of equipment you have it could be that you would have certain resistance to enablement. But resistance if futile, you will be enabled. Welcome to the list and hope you'd post some of your work to PAW and to PUG. Boris-the-Israeli ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! TMP Anyways, I have exactly 791 images that need my immediate attention, lots of TMP stuff to list on Ebay (nothing photographic, don't get excited!), and heaps TMP of sewing to do so I must get my head down and bum up and make for some TMP productivity around here. Might go and get some

RE: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Hmmm. I used to believe, that zone focusing was a feature in cameras, that do not have a REAL Auto Focus system: Instead it focuses in Zones. This could be 4 zones or more: 1-1.5 m, 1.5-3m, 3-7m and 7m to infinity. The camera Auto Zone Focus System will choose the most apropirate zone before

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Steve Jolly
I just knew *someone* was going to say that ;-) S Boros Attila wrote: KT I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern KT hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same. This is simply a myth.

Re: MZ-S Limited

2004-04-09 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: Personally I don't mind either, either - but would like to know I was future proof. Well, at least Pentax apparently plans to continue the MZ-s in one form or another for awhile longer. Why else bother with upgrading the battery grip? I too think it is the last higher end Pentax

News ? (WAS: test)

2004-04-09 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: Any Pentax rumours? I've been off-line for awhile and haven't heard anything. Anyway, Pentax have changed their policy and rumors are pretty much official these days. They have openly leaked out that they have a more compact 67 in the pipe-line. However, it may never be released

Re: K 18mm f/3.5 and Self Introduction

2004-04-09 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Oh Cheng Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is my first post here after joining this list for a year or so. I have the K 18mm f/3.5 which was passed down to me by my father. From this list, this seems to be a rare and highly regarded and hardly mentioned. From my

Any Dutch list members?

2004-04-09 Thread Pål Jensen
I'm hopefully going to Holland sometimes next month in order to buy a used motor yacht. I might need some assistance. Any PDML members who happens to be experts on motor yachts :-) e-mail me... Pål

RE: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Hyperfocal distance (H) is a way to dertemine the distance to focus the lens for a given aperture and focal length to ensure maksimum DOF, when you want sharpness to infinity (e.i. landscape photograph): H = FxF/fc F being Focal length f being f-number (aperture) c being the diameter of Circle of

Re[2]: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Steve, Friday, April 9, 2004, 2:03:08 PM, you wrote: SJ I just knew *someone* was going to say that ;-) And I know many who are convinced that it is true. Attila

RE: MZ-S Limited

2004-04-09 Thread Nicolas Colarusso
I may have missed something.When was this new battery grip announced? Is there a link? Thank you -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 9, 2004 07:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S Limited Rob wrote: Personally I don't mind either,

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Keith Whaley
I have an older camera (that I can't seem to put my hands on right now...) that has symbols in lieu of the hyperfocal distances. for instance, it has an outline of a single head, an outline of three heads, as tho' it were a group of people, and a mountain range. Those actual distance settings

Re: I'm back...with new pics

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think fill might affect some of the closer areas, but it would never reach the top of the rocks and would render the shadows uneven. I did brighten the shadows with the PS shadows and highlights tool, but refrained from pumping them up a lot. Personally, I prefer the hard light. It gives

Re: I'm back...with new pics

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Marnie, I'm sorry you were offended by the shot of the young woman. However, I suspect you were more offended by some of the slightly off-color comments it provoked. I shoot some figure studies, very few of which have been displayed here, and I find the human body to be a very

Re: April PUG - comments - looooong

2004-04-09 Thread brooksdj
Thanks for taking the time to do comments,Dag Thanks for commenting on my shot.I plan to enter this one in the shadows catagory later this year.I'll see how a crop works and if it works,will get the lab to reproduce it that way. BTW it was from Portra 160 T film,printed on BW paper. Dave

Re: I'm back...with new pics

2004-04-09 Thread Keith Whaley
I didn't see where Marnie indicated she found the beachwear shot offensive. Her entire comment was No comment on you know what. I see (saw) nothing to apologize for in your California shots. Of course, I see that all the time, living where I do, so it's nothing new to me. keith whaley Paul

Re: DCPDML Outing #10

2004-04-09 Thread Stephen Moore
tom wrote: No way! I watched that show with my mom as a kid, I loved that show. I had a crush on ther female agent...her number wasn't 69 was it? Barbara Feldon, as Agent 99 Cheers! Stephen

Re: I'm back...with new pics

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I was referring to an earlier post, where she commented more extensively on the bathing suit picture. By the way, I should have tried to get together with some of you SoCal folks, but it's hard for me to plan ahead when I'm out there. I never know when I'll have time off until the last minute

Re: DCPDML Outing #10

2004-04-09 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Stephen Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barbara Feldon, as Agent 99 Cheers! Stephen But what was her character's REAL name? Christian

Re: Get Smart :)

2004-04-09 Thread Herb Chong
which goes to show you that nothing about that show ever really made complete sense. Herb... - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Get Smart :) from http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/99.html That

Re: Get Smart :)

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 10:45:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: which goes to show you that nothing about that show ever really made complete sense. Herb... --- Well, they wanted to put viewers out of their suspense about what her name was. But then they

Re: Update1: Paw in progress:Pictures from old work jobs.

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
Why, Bill, I would venture to guess he took that photo in 1975. --Clairvoyants R Us*. * Not to mention the vehicles, nor that he clearly labeled as so (grin). -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Update1: Paw in progress:Pictures from old work

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 4:37:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hyperfocal distance (H) is a way to dertemine the distance to focus the lens for a given aperture and focal length to ensure maksimum DOF, when you want sharpness to infinity (e.i. landscape photograph): H =

Re: April PUG - notes

2004-04-09 Thread Rfsindg
Here it is: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr/ Just some notes after Dag T's comments... Martin Albrecht's Turning Snail is interesting, can they do that? I'm a sucker for Wendy Beard's tulips. Dag Thrane's -( facinates me, something about sharp softness. ENR Reed's (eyeglasses) are

Re: Re[2]: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:17:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is simply a myth. The Coriolis force caused by the Earth's rotation is far too weak to have any significant effect on the swirling of water in toilets and sinks. The effect might be measurable with

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh? For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen sink 1/2 full. Waited for the water to become still. Then pulled the plug. Results: Did not spin in either direction, but run straight down the drain from

Re: K 18mm f/3.5 and Self Introduction

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/8/2004 11:38:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for reading my lengthy post. Regards, Oh Cheng Yu Hi! Welcome to PDML. -- Boris mentioned them, and if you've been lurking and reading, you'll know. In case not, PAW is picture of

Re: Get Smart :)

2004-04-09 Thread Steve Jolly
You could put the cell phone in your shoe... S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I loved that show too (when it was on). I've always wanted a shoe phone. Guess I'll have to make do with a cell phone. It's almost as good.

Re: Enablement

2004-04-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: alex wetmore Subject: Re: Enablement I picked up the FA 35/2 a few weeks ago. I haven't used it much, but I'm pretty happy with it so far as a normal lens. I have the A 35mm f/2. If the FA is anything like the A for image quality it is a very good lens

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Zone Focus - what is it? I wish you could put that in inches and feet then I *might* get it. It's one of the things I never quite *got* in the photography classes I took. (And not getting still shows up sometimes in my landscape shots.) I've

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Keith Whaley
Sighhh. Surely you realize, Tom, that is you did that test at noon, that's what's responsible for the lack of directivity... keith graywolf wrote: Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh? For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen sink

Re: Get Smart :)

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 11:22:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You could put the cell phone in your shoe... S Hehehe. I would bet even money that someone has already done this. Got to search the Net. Marnie aka Doe

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 11:26:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't you buy a Canon SLR? Do they still have the depth of field program mode built in? William Robb -- Sure. But, you know, I want to understand it myself (and not just let the camera do

RE: DCPDML Outing #10

2004-04-09 Thread ernreed2
Don't worry Dave. If I am not mistaken, the SAPDML has only had one gathering. Ducking in case I am in error, César -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:38 AM # 10. Holy Crap. I think we are only on #5.LOL

Re: I'm back...with new pics

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 9, 2004, at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do add one criticism. I agree with others that the shadows in the canyon shot are a bit harsh. I tend to prefer taking that kind of shot, where I want shadows for definition, later in the day with softer shadows. Or earlier, in the

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
A much simpler formula is: H = 1000 * D, where H is Hyperfocal-distance, and D is diameter-of-the-aperture. (1000 * D assumes an 8x10, or 8x12 print regardless of the format.) You can determine D from: D = f / N, where f is focal-length, and N is f-stop. (Note: f and N are used only to determine

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
Even relatively sophisticated snapshot cameras sometime were designed that way. I used to have a Minox 35EL, and a Canon Demi EE-1.7 that had such markings on them. -- Keith Whaley wrote: I have an older camera (that I can't seem to put my hands on right now...) that has symbols in lieu of

just testing

2004-04-09 Thread wendy beard
to see if I've been bounced from the list or if the digest's down.. --- Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread graywolf
So..? If I did it at noon Oz time, the water would have run up out of the drain? Of course I did the experiment at noon, at least I think it was noon (real time) somewhere in the world at that instant (grin). -- Keith Whaley wrote: Sighhh. Surely you realize, Tom, that is you did that test at

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zone Focus - what is it? Didn't you buy a Canon SLR? Do they still have the depth of field program mode built in? -- Sure. But, you know, I want to understand it myself (and not just let the camera do

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Bill Owens
An even simpler formula is use the DOF preview on the camera and look through the viewfinder. When in doubt, stop down a stop or two. My desire is to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics. Bill - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] My desire is to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics. Bill You're on the wrong list! ;-) Christian

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:40:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck, thats one thing I would like to have automated. The only calculation I do in the field is for lens extension, and that I do mostly by guesswork (very educated guesswork, but guesswork none the less). My

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread John Francis
Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh? For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen sink 1/2 full. Waited for the water to become still. Then pulled the plug. You probably didn't wait long enough for it to be still. Some folks have

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:44:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An even simpler formula is use the DOF preview on the camera and look through the viewfinder. When in doubt, stop down a stop or two. My desire is to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics. Bill

DSLR: advanced WHITE BALANCE techniques

2004-04-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi, I have few thoughts on white balance with DSLRs, and I would like to discuss them to hear your opinions. I have two sort-of questions: 1) White balancing is IMO done by increasing the gain of R or B channel. At least DCRAW and most OEM raw conversion software works in this

Re: April PUG - comments - looooong

2004-04-09 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr/ Dag Thrane -( I leave this one to you :-) You're damn good with shapes, Dag. This one is no exception. I saw something in your shot that... erm... does not belong on a family list, and of course

Finally, a PAW

2004-04-09 Thread William Robb
Taken with the 31mm at fairly close focus and close to wide open. It is a bit of a crop, and it was processed with Neat Image. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2646.html William Robb

Re: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Keith Whaley
graywolf wrote: So..? If I did it at noon Oz time, the water would have run up out of the drain? You know...it doesn't! And I really don't know why. S. I think they made a deal with the devil, I do... keith Of course I did the experiment at noon, at least I think it was noon (real

Re: Jostein's 3rd PAW:

2004-04-09 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Boris. Sorry about the black frame. I just copied a standard HTML-template I thought would do reasonably well with most PAWs. About choice of film, I use slide film 99% of the time. Never got the hang on negatives...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman

Re: Zone Focus hyperfocal marks

2004-04-09 Thread Andre Langevin
By the way, all Pentax WA lenses has a zone focus mark (a red number on the distance scale) to be aligned with the f8 mark (red also). You are then in hyperfocal mode as Doug explained. It has been mentionned here that Pentax might not be conservative enough on their hyperfocal scales; to drop

Re: Finally, a PAW

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting shot. I like it. The minimal depth of field combined with placing the point of focus at the edge of frame makes it a unique way of looking at this little cactus. Very nice. Paul On Apr 9, 2004, at 4:23 PM, William Robb wrote: Taken with the 31mm at fairly close focus and close to

Re: Re[2]: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Boros Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friday, April 9, 2004, 7:35:30 AM, you wrote: KT I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern KT hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same. This is simply a myth. Once again, the inimitable Cecil Adams busts the myth:

RE: Enablement

2004-04-09 Thread Nick Clark
Did you get a black 31mm or the standard silver one? The silver 43mm looks a bit odd on the MZ-S and *ist-D bodies. Nick -Original Message- From: William Robb[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/04/04 16:07:00 To: Pentax Discuss[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Enablement I decided

RE: Re[2]: ramblings...

2004-04-09 Thread Nick Clark
It is true if all other factors are eliminated. It's called the Coriolis Effect and is caused by the rotation of the Earth. However other factors such as plumbing design usually overrides this weak effect. Nick -Original Message- From: Boros Attila[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: MZ-S Limited

2004-04-09 Thread Jens Bladt
This is great news even though I can't afford one (I'll buy the *ist D first). But I think the MZ-S is a great camera and I'd like to see it continued for some time, since I still like film a lot.. I might even try to get a metal back door :-). So where is the data about the grip upgrade? Jens

RE: Sale of Pentax Gear

2004-04-09 Thread David Madsen
Why? David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sale of Pentax Gear To any list members,particularly in OZ who are interested I have most of

Re: DSLR: advanced WHITE BALANCE techniques

2004-04-09 Thread John Francis
I'd disagree with the premise here. Sticking a blue filter on the front of your lens to balance tungsten light to a daylight sensor isn't going to do anything to improve the blue channel noise. In fact all it will do is reduce the amount of light falling on the red and green sensors, thus

Re: Zone Focus - what is it?

2004-04-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Thanks! Jens, I think I knew about the hyper focal distance and Pentax manual lens markings... I just did not know it was called also the zone focus. Thanks for the formulas. I need to memorize them may be... Well, I've got now The Negative and I am going to read it very thoroughly... I