...Well 29 meters are sertainly much less than 1/3 of distance to infinity,
isn't it ? :-)
Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. april 2004 20:27
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Zone
Ah, "The Negative" goes into great detail on Zone EXPOSURE, not zone
focusing.
Bill
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From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: Zone Focus - what is it?
> Hi!
>
> Thanks!
>
Hi!
DT> Boris Liberman - In the sand
DT> Strange curves in the sand. I don´t really understand it, but that
DT> doesn´t matter. I think it would hav been better if the curves in the
DT> background had been repeated in the plant front. Or maybe concentrated
DT> on the curve in the background.
Th
Hi!
Thanks!
Jens, I think I knew about the hyper focal distance and Pentax manual
lens markings... I just did not know it was called also the zone
focus. Thanks for the formulas. I need to memorize them may be...
Well, I've got now "The Negative" and I am going to read it very
thoroughly...
I s
I'd disagree with the premise here. Sticking a blue filter on the
front of your lens to balance tungsten light to a daylight sensor
isn't going to do anything to improve the blue channel noise. In
fact all it will do is reduce the amount of light falling on the
red and green sensors, thus lower
Why?
David Madsen
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http://www.davidmadsen.com
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From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sale of Pentax Gear
To any list members,particularly in OZ who are interested I have most of m
This is great news even though I can't afford one (I'll buy the *ist D
first). But I think the MZ-S is a great camera and I'd like to see it
continued for some time, since I still like film a lot.. I might even try to
get a metal back door :-).
So where is the data about the grip upgrade?
Jens Bla
Did you get a black 31mm or the standard silver one? The silver 43mm looks a bit odd
on the MZ-S and *ist-D bodies.
Nick
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From: "William Robb"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 09/04/04 16:07:00
To: "Pentax Discuss"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enablement
I
It is true if all other factors are eliminated. It's called the Coriolis Effect and is
caused by the rotation of the Earth. However other factors such as plumbing design
usually overrides this weak effect.
Nick
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From: "Boros Attila"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 09/
Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Friday, April 9, 2004, 7:35:30 AM, you wrote:
>
>KT> I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern
>KT> hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same.
>
>This is simply a myth.
Once again, the inimitable Cecil Adams busts t
Interesting shot. I like it. The minimal depth of field combined with
placing the point of focus at the edge of frame makes it a unique way
of looking at this little cactus. Very nice.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2004, at 4:23 PM, William Robb wrote:
Taken with the 31mm at fairly close focus and close to wid
By the way, all Pentax WA lenses has a zone focus mark (a red number
on the distance scale) to be aligned with the f8 mark (red also).
You are then in hyperfocal mode as Doug explained.
It has been mentionned here that Pentax might not be conservative
enough on their hyperfocal scales; to "drop
Thanks, Boris.
Sorry about the black frame. I just copied a standard HTML-template I
thought would do reasonably well with most PAWs.
About choice of film, I use slide film 99% of the time. Never got the hang
on negatives...:-)
Cheers,
Jostein
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From: "Boris Liberman
graywolf wrote:
So..? If I did it at noon Oz time, the water would have run up out of
the drain?
You know...it doesn't! And I really don't know why. S. I think they
made a deal with the devil, I do...
keith
Of course I did the experiment at noon, at least I think it was noon
(real time)
Taken with the 31mm at fairly close focus and close to wide open.
It is a bit of a crop, and it was processed with Neat Image.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2646.html
William Robb
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From: "Dag T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr/
> Dag Thrane -(
> I leave this one to you :-)
You're damn good with shapes, Dag. This one is no exception. I saw something
in your shot that... erm... does not belong on a family list, and of
Hi,
I have few thoughts on white balance with DSLRs, and I would like
to discuss them to hear your opinions.
I have two sort-of questions:
1) White balancing is IMO done by increasing the gain of R or B
channel. At least DCRAW and most OEM raw conversion
software works in this w
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:44:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An even simpler formula is use the DOF preview on the camera and look
through the viewfinder. When in doubt, stop down a stop or two. My desire is
to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics.
Bill
---
>
> Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh?
>
> For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen sink
> 1/2 full. Waited for the water to become still. Then pulled the plug.
You probably didn't wait long enough for it to be still. Some folks
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:40:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Heck, thats one thing I would like to have automated. The only
calculation I do in the field is for lens extension, and that I do
mostly by guesswork (very educated guesswork, but guesswork none the
less).
My
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> My desire is
> to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics.
>
> Bill
You're on the wrong list! ;-)
Christian
An even simpler formula is use the DOF preview on the camera and look
through the viewfinder. When in doubt, stop down a stop or two. My desire is
to make pictures, not get involved with mathematics.
Bill
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From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zone Focus - what is it?
> Didn't you buy a Canon SLR?
> Do they still have the depth of field program mode built in?
>
> --
> Sure. But, you know, I want to understand it myself (and not just
let the
> camera
So..? If I did it at noon Oz time, the water would have run up out of the drain?
Of course I did the experiment at noon, at least I think it was noon (real time)
somewhere in the world at that instant (grin).
--
Keith Whaley wrote:
Sighhh. Surely you realize, Tom, that is you did that test at
to see if I've been bounced from the list or if the digest's down..
---
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com
Even relatively sophisticated snapshot cameras sometime were designed that way.
I used to have a Minox 35EL, and a Canon Demi EE-1.7 that had such markings on them.
--
Keith Whaley wrote:
I have an older camera (that I can't seem to put my hands on right
now...) that has symbols in lieu of the
A much simpler formula is: H = 1000 * D, where
H is Hyperfocal-distance, and
D is diameter-of-the-aperture.
(1000 * D assumes an 8x10, or 8x12 print regardless of the format.)
You can determine D from: D = f / N, where
f is focal-length, and
N is f-stop.
(Note: f and N are used only to determine th
On Apr 9, 2004, at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I do add one criticism. I agree with others that the shadows in the
canyon shot are a bit harsh. I tend to prefer taking that kind of
shot, where I
want shadows for definition, later in the day with softer shadows. Or
earlier, in
the morn
> Don't worry Dave. If I am not mistaken, the SAPDML has only had one
> gathering.
>
> Ducking in case I am in error,
>
> César
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:38 AM
>
> # 10. Holy Crap. I think we are only
In a message dated 4/9/2004 11:26:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Didn't you buy a Canon SLR?
Do they still have the depth of field program mode built in?
William Robb
--
Sure. But, you know, I want to understand it myself (and not just let the
camera do it
In a message dated 4/9/2004 11:22:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You could put the cell phone in your shoe...
S
Hehehe. I would bet even money that someone has already done this. Got to
search the Net.
Marnie aka Doe
Sighhh. Surely you realize, Tom, that is you did that test at noon,
that's what's responsible for the lack of directivity...
keith
graywolf wrote:
Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh?
For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen
sink
- Original Message -
From: "alex wetmore"
Subject: Re: Enablement
>
> I picked up the FA 35/2 a few weeks ago. I haven't used it much,
but
> I'm pretty happy with it so far as a normal lens.
I have the A 35mm f/2. If the FA is anything like the A for image
quality it is a very good l
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From:
Subject: Re: Zone Focus - what is it?
> I wish you could put that in inches and feet then I *might* get it.
It's one
> of the things I never quite *got* in the photography classes I
took. (And not
> getting still shows up sometimes in my landscape shots.) I'v
You could put the cell phone in your shoe...
S
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I loved that show too (when it was on). I've always wanted a shoe phone.
Guess I'll have to make do with a cell phone. It's almost as good.
In a message dated 4/8/2004 11:38:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for reading my lengthy post.
Regards,
Oh Cheng Yu
Hi! Welcome to PDML.
--
Boris mentioned them, and if you've been lurking and reading, you'll know. In
case not, PAW is picture of the
Amazing the number of things everybody knows that are not true, eh?
For what it is worth, I just did a simple experiment. Filled the kitchen sink
1/2 full. Waited for the water to become still. Then pulled the plug.
Results: Did not spin in either direction, but run straight down the drain from
In a message dated 4/9/2004 12:17:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
This is simply a myth. The Coriolis force caused by the Earth's
rotation is far too weak to have any significant effect on the
swirling of water in toilets and sinks. The effect might be
measurable with suffi
> Here it is:
> http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04apr/
Just some notes after Dag T's comments...
Martin Albrecht's Turning Snail is interesting, can they do that?
I'm a sucker for Wendy Beard's tulips.
Dag Thrane's "-(" facinates me, something about sharp & softness.
ENR Reed's (eyeglasses) are memor
In a message dated 4/9/2004 4:37:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hyperfocal distance (H) is a way to dertemine the distance to focus the lens
for a given aperture and focal length to ensure maksimum DOF, when you want
sharpness to infinity (e.i. landscape photograph):
H = F
Why, Bill, I would venture to guess he took that photo in 1975.
--Clairvoyants R Us*.
* Not to mention the vehicles, nor that he clearly labeled as so (grin).
--
William Robb wrote:
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Update1: Paw in progress:Pictures from old work
In a message dated 4/9/2004 10:45:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
which goes to show you that nothing about that show ever really made
complete sense.
Herb...
---
Well, they wanted to put viewers out of their suspense about what her name
was. But then they also
which goes to show you that nothing about that show ever really made
complete sense.
Herb...
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From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Get Smart :)
> from http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/99.html
>
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From: "Stephen Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Barbara Feldon, as Agent 99
>
> Cheers!
> Stephen
But what was her character's REAL name?
Christian
I was referring to an earlier post, where she commented more
extensively on the bathing suit picture.
By the way, I should have tried to get together with some of you SoCal
folks, but it's hard for me to plan ahead when I'm out there. I never
know when I'll have time off until the last minute or
tom wrote:
No way! I watched that show with my mom as a kid, I loved that show. I had a
crush on ther female agent...her number wasn't 69 was it?
Barbara Feldon, as Agent 99
Cheers!
Stephen
I didn't see where Marnie indicated she found the beachwear shot offensive.
Her entire comment was "No comment on you know what."
I see (saw) nothing to apologize for in your California shots.
Of course, I see that all the time, living where I do, so it's nothing
new to me.
keith whaley
Paul Ste
Thanks for taking the time to do comments,Dag
Thanks for commenting on my shot.I plan to enter this one in the shadows catagory later
this year.I'll
see how a crop works and if it works,will get the lab to reproduce it that way.
BTW it was from Portra 160 T film,printed on B&W paper.
Dave
Thanks Marnie,
I'm sorry you were offended by the shot of the young woman. However, I
suspect you were more offended by some of the slightly off-color
comments it provoked. I shoot some figure studies, very few of which
have been displayed here, and I find the human body to be a very
attractive
I think fill might affect some of the closer areas, but it would never
reach the top of the rocks and would render the shadows uneven. I did
brighten the shadows with the PS "shadows and highlights" tool, but
refrained from pumping them up a lot. Personally, I prefer the hard
light. It gives sh
I have an older camera (that I can't seem to put my hands on right
now...) that has symbols in lieu of the hyperfocal distances.
for instance, it has an outline of a single head, an outline of three
heads, as tho' it were a group of people, and a mountain range.
Those actual distance settings mig
I may have missed something.When was this new battery grip announced? Is
there a link?
Thank you
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From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2004 07:09
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S Limited
Rob wrote:
> Personally I don't mind either, eit
Hello Steve,
Friday, April 9, 2004, 2:03:08 PM, you wrote:
SJ> I just knew *someone* was going to say that ;-)
And I know many who are convinced that it is true.
Attila
Hyperfocal distance (H) is a way to dertemine the distance to focus the lens
for a given aperture and focal length to ensure maksimum DOF, when you want
sharpness to infinity (e.i. landscape photograph):
H = FxF/fc
F being Focal length
f being f-number (aperture)
c being the diameter of Circle of
I'm hopefully going to Holland sometimes next month in order to buy a used motor
yacht. I might need some assistance. Any PDML members who happens to be experts on
motor yachts :-)
e-mail me...
Pål
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From: "Oh Cheng Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is my first post here after joining this list for a year or so. I have
> the K 18mm f/3.5 which was passed down to me by my father. From this list,
> this seems to be a rare and highly regarded and hardly mentioned. From
Rob wrote:
> Any Pentax rumours?
I've been off-line for awhile and haven't heard anything. Anyway, Pentax have changed
their policy and rumors are pretty much official these days.
They have openly leaked out that they have a more compact 67 in the pipe-line.
However, it may never be released j
Rob wrote:
> Personally I don't mind either, either - but would like to know I was future proof.
Well, at least Pentax apparently plans to continue the MZ-s in one form or another for
awhile longer. Why else bother with upgrading the battery grip? I too think it is the
last higher end Pentax f
I just knew *someone* was going to say that ;-)
S
Boros Attila wrote:
KT> I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern
KT> hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same.
This is simply a myth.
Hmmm.
I used to believe, that "zone focusing" was a feature in cameras, that do
not have a REAL Auto Focus system:
Instead it focuses in Zones. This could be 4 zones or more: 1-1.5 m, 1.5-3m,
3-7m and 7m to infinity. The camera Auto Zone Focus System will choose the
most apropirate zone before
Hi!
TMP> Anyways, I have exactly 791 images that need my immediate attention, lots of
TMP> stuff to list on Ebay (nothing photographic, don't get excited!), and heaps
TMP> of sewing to do so I must get my head down and bum up and make for some
TMP> productivity around here. Might go and get some
Hi!
Welcome! From the extensive list of equipment you have it could be
that you would have certain resistance to enablement. But resistance
if futile, you will be enabled.
Welcome to the list and hope you'd post some of your work to PAW and
to PUG.
Boris-the-Israeli
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL
Hello Kevin,
Friday, April 9, 2004, 7:35:30 AM, you wrote:
KT> I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern
KT> hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same.
This is simply a myth. The Coriolis force caused by the Earth's
rotation is far too weak to have any sig
Seems to be quite a fan group out there. Several sites on the web about the
show. Guess I was confused, she was 99. I will stick with lovely no matter what
her number. Actress who played 99 was Barbara Feldon by the way.
--
Bill D. Casselberry wrote:
graywolf wrote:
I though it was a refere
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