Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I like this version better, and I also notice some litter was removed as well. On Monday 25 October 2004 05:06, William Robb wrote: FJW> FJW> - Original Message - FJW> From: "Shel Belinkoff" FJW> Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike FJW> FJW> FJW> >I put up a second version. Curious t

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Sam Jost
Hej Jens, that seems to be a problem of local dealers here, too - they are expensive and clueless. When I wanted to buy the *istD the local dealer wanted the list price of 1599,- Euros (or was it 1799,-? not sure), while a recommended online-shop sold it to me for 1200,- Euros. And when I asked

RE: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Jens Bladt
True, Sam. I buy all new stuff in Germany - through the internet. VAT is only 17% - in Denmark 25%. I do not have to pay Danish VAT because of EU-rules. I feel bad about NOT supporting Danish deales, though. But the *ist D cost 30-60% more in Denmark compared to Germany. So, I didn't feel I really

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Sam Jost
Well, for some the lenses don't eat up cash - they just buy a 28-300 Sigma for 100,- Euros and maybe a wider zoom and are done with it. For me I agree, I only own the *istD for a few months and already spent three times the price on lenses - and I only just startet (DA14 will be the next for su

RE: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Speaking of cost of an autofocus F 2.8 - f 70-200mm lens: Pentax: SMC-FA ED IF 80-200 mm 2.8 (NO IS): 1800-1900 Euros Sigma: 70-200mm F/2,8 APO EX (No IS) : 760-1000 Euros Tokina AT-X 828 AF Pro (f=70-200mm F=2.8): 670 Euros Carl Zeiss Contax Vario Sonnar 80-200mm F4 (non

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Sam Jost
Well, you always could take a long drive and buy the stuff in germany, not? Or would there be a problem with taxes then? Sam (Flensborg) Not, bad. But after all, it's a 1000 USD lens! In Denmark the list price is 1800 USD, in Germany it can be found for less than 800 Euros (1000USD). I guess it

Re: Red and Red again

2004-10-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: > I'm glad that St. Louis got in, too. Larry Walker, good Canadian Boy > and all. It'd be nice to see him win. > > I don't know who to cheer for, so I'll just cheer for good baseball, > like we saw in the Championship Series - that's some of the best > baseball I've seen i

Re: Red and Red again

2004-10-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Steve Desjardins wrote: > Didn't know you were one of the faithful, Ann. Don't you live in NY? > > The WS oughta be fun. . . > It is fun! Hey, I'm from Chicago originally where I was a Cubs fan - In the east I have been a MEts and Phillies fan in the past but the main thing is to root against t

Re: Who had the longest hair? (Was: Old Pentax Photos for Dario

2004-10-24 Thread Caveman
Beat that: http://tinyurl.com/odu5

Re: Who had the longest hair? (Was: Old Pentax Photos for Dario

2004-10-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Oct 2004 at 17:32, David Mann wrote: > On Oct 25, 2004, at 3:47 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > > > LOL, mine currently comes down to the middle of my back ;-P > > Mine used to be about that long but I had it cut short a couple of > years ago. I found it rather annoying when using a waist-leve

Re: Who had the longest hair? (Was: Old Pentax Photos for Dario

2004-10-24 Thread David Mann
On Oct 25, 2004, at 3:47 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: LOL, mine currently comes down to the middle of my back ;-P Mine used to be about that long but I had it cut short a couple of years ago. I found it rather annoying when using a waist-level finder and a wide-angle lens while the wind was blowing.

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Paul, I've never lived in the country where these cars were common. So my opinion is not regular with that respect. I like more the first shot because of the color. But I like the second shot way more because of the license plate. To me, the second shot really wins, though I'd like to see jus

Re: PAW: In the Library

2004-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! ft> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2782878 ft> Here's one I'm not sure of (for obvious reasons) I won't say anything ft> more, but I'd be real interested to hear what y'all think. Frank, I am sorry I am _very late_ for this one, but here are my pixels. For me, it just does not

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Shoot Tri-X @ 100 and @ 200 and process accordingly. Shel > [Original Message] > From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Actually I wish I had a 100 BW that looked mostly like Tri-X.

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
What, did my documentary/artistic comments confuse you?? By documentary I meant something like dental photos or autopsy photos. They need to be good technically but they arent exactly artisitic to say the least. JCO -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Su

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Shel observed: > To "closely emulate" is not the same as ... the same ;-)) Or to put it another way: "The difference between theory and practice is very small, in theory. The difference between theory and practice is often large, in practice."

PESO - Happy Halloween !

2004-10-24 Thread Caveman
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/hw3.html ;-)

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Graywolf wrote: > Well if your aperture is limited to f5.6 or smaller as with most consumer > zooms, faster film is often better. *nod* I load up fast film in daytime for slow lenses, or for long lenses hand-held. But (probably obviously) those aren't the only lenses I use. > Given my choice

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Oct 2004 at 22:38, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I comment on photos when appropriate such as when people > ask for them, it doesn't happen as often here as the tech talk > ( now with scanners and digital the tech is dominating for sure) > but the tech and the art are not separate items, if you d

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Oct 2004 at 21:56, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > They don't need to be accurate as long as they are consistant. > IF the 1/1000 is actually 1/700 so what as long as you know > what it is ( This is why I bought a $99 digital shutter timer). > 1/700 is much better speed than 1/250 if you need spee

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" Subject: Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? Haven't read the other posts on this - Consider yourself lucky.. William Robb

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike I put up a second version. Curious to know if you think it looks better. I do like the second one, I think the extra punch suits the image. It's a good picture, Shel. William Robb

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You cant be serious 125 years of continous product development has made today's 2004 films/processes better in just about every parameter you can imagine and much faster film speed to boot. I bet todays best 400 color neg films smokes the 100 speeds of the 60's let alone match it and that is o

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There's much to be said for shooting on overcast days, something that's easy to do in San Francisco during the summer. Thanks for the nice thought ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I enjoy the comfort this image emits. A nice collage > of gray values.

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
John, People are posting PAW and PESO photos daily, asking for comments, suggestions, and criticism. Have you participated? Don't recall seeing many, if any, posts from you. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I comment on photos when appropriate such as

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I comment on photos when appropriate such as when people ask for them, it doesn't happen as often here as the tech talk ( now with scanners and digital the tech is dominating for sure) but the tech and the art are not separate items, if you do not know the tech you cant create the art. Hell if you

Re: More homework: Frick Park 360

2004-10-24 Thread Mat Maessen
A friend of mine built a robot out of Lego Mindstorms specifically to do this sort of panorama. Would trip the shutter, rotate x degrees, trip shutter, lather rinse repeat. I'll have to see if I can dig up some of the Quicktime VR movies he made with it (he did a full spherical panorama at one poi

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
no Kodak didn't state the grain was too similar, they stated the overall performance of the film was too similar. You are being very arrogant when you think you know more than the professional engineers at Kodak. I am not saying Kodak is god or anything or that big companies don't make mistakes (re

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I put up a second version. Curious to know if you think it looks better. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/gobduo-t.html There's a link at the bottom of the pic that allows switching between the two versions for comparison. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Why do you continue to twist what I said around? I never said faster is ALWAYS better. I said in this case MOST and I stand by it. I know from years of experience of actually taking pictures that I could have benefitted from MORE film speed way more often than than the need for less. I would be a m

Re: OT - Francophiles

2004-10-24 Thread Mishka
you can't be serious. last time i were there, they were on pretty much every block. with sugar, with chocolate, with "greek salad" (which had very little to do with greek salad if you ask me)... not sure about cafes though -- i guess it's a street food. mishka On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:53:58 -0400

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I think what kodak calls "performance" means overall accuracy when it comes to film. That is not to say that accurate is always better sometimes if you want a certain effect then inaccurate is better, i.e. like a soft focus lens for a portrait vs. a razor sharp one. A grainy film vs. a grain free f

Re: OT: The Curse is Broken (Was Red and Red again)

2004-10-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
The curse is not over until they win the World Series. Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com

Re: OT - Francophiles

2004-10-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
Unfortunately, that is not the case. -- Original Message -- From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:16:41 +0100 >Hi, > >Sunday, October 24, 2004, 3:27:47 AM, Daniel wrote: > > >> When I was in Paris, most of the

Re: OT - Francophiles

2004-10-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
Wrong. Mickey D sells hamburgers, chicken, even fish and salads, but not ham and cheese. That is french cafe fare. -- Original Message -- From: Michel_Carr�re-G�e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:03:42 +0200

Re: OT - Francophiles

2004-10-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
No. I love crepes, but they were difficult to find. The special in most of the cafes was ham and cheese, grilled or otherwise. -- Original Message -- From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:31:17 -0400 >not

Re: Plux-X When Creamy Smooth Counts (Adult Content)

2004-10-24 Thread Caveman
The candles are distracting. ;-)

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
They don't need to be accurate as long as they are consistant. IF the 1/1000 is actually 1/700 so what as long as you know what it is ( This is why I bought a $99 digital shutter timer). 1/700 is much better speed than 1/250 if you need speed. JCO -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [m

Re: Plux-X When Creamy Smooth Counts (Adult Content)

2004-10-24 Thread Mat Maessen
I agree, a wonderful shot, and illustrates FAR better than I could what I like about PlusX and TriX. I've always got rolls of both kicking around in the fridge, right now in both 35mm and 120 format. -Mat On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:28:24 -0500, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A beautiful

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No, your super rare IS super rare. What I said was the only time the slow film would be an advantage is if you wanted to use wide apertures on bright sunny days and shooting into lights. all other situations could be handled with ND fitlter that you are just too lazy to use. And now a days almost e

Re: Sharp eye (was: Samples from today's shoot...)

2004-10-24 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2004 at 19:50, Dario Bonazza wrote: > > > >> I understand that focal length and shutter speed were not so > >> obvious. > >> The funny thing is that apparently nobody among those who usually > >> say the > >> *istD to be tack sharp (most *istD users o

OT - What do you recommend for Acros 100 in Rodinal

2004-10-24 Thread Fred Widall
I've picked up a few rolls of Acros 100 in 120 format to try in my Ricohflex TLR. After searching Google I think I'm going to rate it at EI:64, develop in Rodinal 1:50 for 8:30 minutes at 68F. Does anyone have any better suggestions for Acros in Rodinal ?? Thanks. --

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Jack Davis
Shel, I enjoy the comfort this image emits. A nice collage of gray values. Appears it was one of those giant soft box days. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Paul ... I'll wait until this evening when > the computer room is > darker to see how this pic compares with s

RE: some recent shots

2004-10-24 Thread Amita Guha
> As for the shots of Garth, I think they are very good people > shots. I have done a fair amount of work with actors, > models, and musicians and most agents want a comp card to > have one fairly tight headshot with a white, or otherwise > blank background, and a few shots of the actor/model

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'll be going to our Annual General Meeting for our equine zone this > afternoon,and it just so > happens its not very far from a camera store,and i need supplies. > > I need more film developer,not enough of the Tmax to do two rolls, and i thought i > might

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:42:11 -0400, cbwaters wrote: > CW > was thinking today in the shower that he hasn't shot any motorsports in > about a year :( The ARRC is in two weeks at Road Atlanta, come on out. Scott and I will be working corners for that one. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:20:02 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Which do you prefer. (I'm really hoping to get some > feedback here. In other words: Help!!) > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2816809 > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2816802 Paul, I prefer '802, but that's

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:43:37 +0200, Jens Bladt wrote: > It's probably the FA 100-300mm, that everybody says is quite a dog!? I don't know about the FA, but I've not been pleased with the F 100-300/4.5-5.6. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm in trouble now ... you've implied a "wholesome" content to one of my photos. There goes my rep ... Thanks for the comments about the tonality, which is what I was really looking for. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Lasse Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As for B&W tonality I like this pi

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've only seen one other speced like that, up at Harrah's a few years ago. It was a tan one. However, I'm not sure if it was a Dodge or a Plymouth, but in any case, it was the 2-door sedan, not the hard top. I'd agree that you're over thinking the situation. I bet we've read as many automotive

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Shel. I agree that the long lens shot defines the car's personality much better.. I've been worrying about the obviously different light. I couldn't get the really long lens shots to look like the others in terms of color and contrast. That was due in part to the changing light, but also

RE: Plux-X When Creamy Smooth Counts (Adult Content)

2004-10-24 Thread Don Sanderson
A beautiful shot Paul, the tones and composition are wonderful. Just ordered some Plus X and Tri X today after following this discussion. Never loaded the 5n's with BW, ought to be fun. don > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There y'go Bill, basing your decision the RMS information (Reclining Main Seat). Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So, which car performs better? Which is the better choice? > > Depends on if the front passenger seat folds flat for having > sex.. > H

PDML Mini-FAQ

2004-10-24 Thread Graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Posted every Sunday (if I remember). -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? Hey, I've got a 1964 Buick Wildcat and a neat little sports coupe. The Buick is slow and ponderous, but offers better passenger accommodations, a quieter, smoother ride, and lots of room to have sex in

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Henri Toivonen" Subject: Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? I think you're being unfair to JC now, he has mentioned several times that if the films compared were equal in every other way than ISO speed the faster would be generally preferred. I don't. He starte

Plux-X When Creamy Smooth Counts (Adult Content)

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I love Plux-X for photographing women. It has a smoothnes and subtlety that is perfect for figure or fashion photography. I posted my favorite Plus-X image, but I will accompany it with a warning: THIS WOMAN IS NAKED! Please don't look if that offends you. But this is one photo where I didn't w

Re: Sharp eye (was: Samples from today's shoot...)

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
On 24 Oct 2004 at 19:50, Dario Bonazza wrote: I understand that focal length and shutter speed were not so obvious. The funny thing is that apparently nobody among those who usually say the *istD to be tack sharp (most *istD users out there) thought it to be capable of such result ;-) Those of

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? It has already happened probably hundreds of times over the last 100+ years! Examples please, stating specifically which samples, and including full information regarding grain structure, colour respons

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? I never said TMAX400 was exact same as PLUSX, I said kodak claimed it was too similar and the tmax 400 had the advantage of three times the speed. I also stated that they were NOT doing the same thing w

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320 It's probably the FA 100-300mm, that everybody says is quite a dog!? Do you want me to post the EXIF data? I can if you like. William Robb

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? Nope, I shoot mostly LF and they all look pretty good and virtually the same with respect to grain or lack thereof. I shot HP5+ for many years on 4x5. It's a nice film and in the sizes I print, shows no

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? Yeah I don't really understand sixth grade DOF basics after 30 years of owning an SLR and I always shoot F22 because it's the "best" one! I mean I just love it when I get those highly detailed distract

Re: One Last Film Body Survey

2004-10-24 Thread Alan Chan
After stripped and reassembled on myself, I have to say I much prefer electronic shutter for much better accuracy & reliability. The MX is a real joy to use, except for slides... :-( Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Same here. My choice would be an updated MX with mirror lock-up and ISO r

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Lasse Karlsson
As for B&W tonality I like this picture very much. An even distribution of tones, no burned out high lights or clogged black shadows. It's like my preferences for bread - no sugar or syrup, no spectacular spices, just the good taste of pure wheat, rye, oat etc. Very good. Always nice to see a hap

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, October 25, 2004, 12:01:06 AM, Paul wrote: > Thanks Ken, > Perhaps I'll have a go at replacing the sky. Now that's what I call ambition! -- Cheers, Bob

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Alan Chan
Applies to me as well. Btw, I think the 2nd shoot was cropped a little too tight, particular too little space on the top. Maybe it's the 400mm effect, it looks a little uncomfortable, to me anyway. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I simply think that the reflections which you as a pho

Re: PAW PESO - Girl on Bike

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Paul ... I'll wait until this evening when the computer room is darker to see how this pic compares with some others without the duotone. I think it's time for some blackout curtains Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Very nice. Good composition to

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ken, Perhaps I'll have a go at replacing the sky. I have plenty of sky plates that I've shot for stock. Paul On Oct 24, 2004, at 6:39 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Like em both Paul. The side shot is a good catalog type and is my favorite, although I could do without the blank sky. The second

RE: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul, I like both shots quite a bit. The first one is great in presenting the view against a lovely background, and defines the car beautifully in a very straightforward manner. The second shot, however, captures the soul of the beast, conveys a sense of power. The car looks like it's ready to

Re: One Last Film Body Survey

2004-10-24 Thread Jason Poh
Same here. My choice would be an updated MX with mirror lock-up and ISO range up to 6400. Jason Poh --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy, I have to agree with Graywolf here. If Pentax > were to make one > last film body, for me, it would be a brand new, > black MX - just like > th

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Lasse. Your comments are appreciated. Paul On Oct 24, 2004, at 6:37 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote: From a later post I understand that you're asking advice therendering of color and contrast. Well, to start with, both are very good car shots. When looking at the shadow side of the front shot it

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
To "closely emulate" is not the same as ... the same ;-)) And is everyone going to want to develop their TMAX in the same manner that Kodak suggests in order to "closely emulate" PX? Ridiculous ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Apparently KODAK cla

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If one wants to shoot with most any Leica rangefinder (and I say most any because, off the top of my head, I don't recall if the M7 has a higher top shutter speed, and if it does it's probably only a stop), the shutter speed is limited to 1/1000 sec. There is no alternative. So now what you're sa

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Having used Pan-X and TMAX 100, I can assure you that there is a substantive difference between the two. One must, first of all, define "performance." What Kodak "claims" and what is reality are often two different things. And, as has been stated time and again, speed is not always an advantage.

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Mat Maessen
And they also have VERY different density curves when developed in the same developer (my preferred soup is D-76 1:1, just to keep things on topic). In my experience at least, I tend to prefer the curve and texture that PlusX gives for people pictures, while TMax works better for "place" or "thing"

Re: MZ-S exposure compensation (WAS: Re: One Last Film Body Survey)

2004-10-24 Thread Alan Chan
True for the MX as well, except the speed between 1/30s & 1/60s. But then again, the mechanical shutter is not that accurate there might not be any practical meaning to do so. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan In all the Pentax cameras I'm aware of, shutter speed is controlled by a *single*

RE: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Not, bad. But after all, it's a 1000 USD lens! In Denmark the list price is 1800 USD, in Germany it can be found for less than 800 Euros (1000USD). I guess it ought to be very sharp. The Tokina version is a little less expensive than the Sigma (Germany). The Pentax version 2.8/80-200mm is very exp

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Graywolf
Nor in most cases any actual experience with what he is talking about. Which is sad because when he does talk about something he actually knows he provides good and useful information. However not knowing whether he is talking unfounded theory or practical experience means the people who could m

Re: 77 vs 85/was: www?

2004-10-24 Thread Alan Chan
The lowest price in Japan I have found is 63000 yen for the silver, but they don't do overseas. It costs about the same in HK & Taiwan. B&H has it in stock again after a long wait, so you might want to snap one up if you can live with the silver. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Rumor say

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
Like em both Paul. The side shot is a good catalog type and is my favorite, although I could do without the blank sky. The second shot "shortens" the vehicle and doesn't interest me as much as the first. Man there sure was a lot of shiney stuff on the older cars. Kenneth Waller - Original Mess

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Graywolf
Well if your aperture is limited to f5.6 or smaller as with most consumer zooms, faster film is often better. Given my choice I mostly use 100 speed film. But sometimes I really want something around 25 ASA, and often 400. However I use film faster than 400 less than I would 25 if I could get it

Re: Sharp eye (was: Samples from today's shoot...)

2004-10-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Oct 2004 at 19:50, Dario Bonazza wrote: > I understand that focal length and shutter speed were not so obvious. > The funny thing is that apparently nobody among those who usually say the > *istD to be tack sharp (most *istD users out there) thought it to be capable of > such result ;-) It i

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 24 Oct 2004 at 23:25, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > shutter speed" on some cameras. The Leica is limited to 1/1000 second, and > > > numerous Leica shooters prefer not to go there, many of the o

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Lasse Karlsson
>From a later post I understand that you're asking advice therendering of color and >contrast. Well, to start with, both are very good car shots. When looking at the shadow side of the front shot it struck me that the rendition of the color is quite a bit different from in the profile shot. Since

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Oct 2004 at 23:25, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > shutter speed" on some cameras. The Leica is limited to 1/1000 second, and > > numerous Leica shooters prefer not to go there, many of the older Pentax > > Why is that? Much higher % speed i

RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > shutter speed" on some cameras. The Leica is limited to 1/1000 second, and > numerous Leica shooters prefer not to go there, many of the older Pentax Why is that? > bodies are limited in the same or similar manner. The fastest shutter > speed on any

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, but that's beside the point . On Oct 24, 2004, at 5:54 PM, Cotty wrote: You're nuts! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Sharp eye (was: Samples from today's shoot...)

2004-10-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/5004det.jpg Dario > No, no, it is an unresized crop from a head shot, 3008x2008 pixel image > (shown very tiny at the center, because I don't have permission to publish > the image). > > Dario > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thanks Cotty. That makes it perfectly clear :-). In truth, I'm more >concerned about color and contrast. I have a lot of shots from every >angle. (I shot 200 frames.) They're both excellent. You're nuts! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Cotty. That makes it perfectly clear :-). In truth, I'm more concerned about color and contrast. I have a lot of shots from every angle. (I shot 200 frames.) Paul On Oct 24, 2004, at 5:44 PM, Cotty wrote: On 24/10/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I had to shoot a car this m

Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??

2004-10-24 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, October 24, 2004, 10:19:08 PM, J. wrote: > A single MULTICOATED ND filter is > virtually benign and I would venture > to say that you would be hard pressed > to see ANY visible difference in the > negs unless you wanted to throw in another > super rare "what if" like shooting right >

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the feedback. I have a lot of other shots, and I could steer them in either direction in regard to color and contrast. I'm leaning toward shot one myself, but I appreciate other opinions. Thanks. Paul On Oct 24, 2004, at 5:42 PM, cbwaters wrote: Paul, Despite the cool license plate on

Re: PESO: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >I had to shoot a car this morning. It was a "64 Dodge with a 393 and a >4-speed manual trans. One of only three made with that engine and >transmission combination. It's a survivor, with only 18,000 miles on >the odometer, so it's worth

Re: Fighting Bad Light and Needing Some Help

2004-10-24 Thread cbwaters
Paul, Despite the cool license plate on the front in shot two, I like the look of shot one better. Something about the car, posed in front of those trees on some country lane looks timeless. It could benefit from some better light but hell, ya works with whatcha gots, eh? Nice car. CW was thi

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Sigma EX 70-200/2.8. Dario - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: RE: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320 > So, which lens is it? > > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://h

Re: Sharp eye (was: Samples from today's shoot...)

2004-10-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
No, no, it is an unresized crop from a head shot, 3008x2008 pixel image (shown very tiny at the center, because I don't have permission to publish the image). Dario - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:49 PM

Re: Who had the longest hair? (Was: Old Pentax Photos for Dario

2004-10-24 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2815854 This is an awful quality picture from a damaged and badly exposed negative - just about the only one I have of myself from that era. I think it is actually January 1974, the thing

Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320

2004-10-24 Thread Herb Chong
the lens is on the soft side, especially at the long end. Herb - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Samples from today's shoot with the FA 80-320 > Could be. It's hand held at 1/9

Re: More homework: Frick Park 360

2004-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/04, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >The latest homework assignment I've done for my digital imaging class: A >360 degree panorama. It's Frick Park in Pittsburgh. 21 ist-D images >stitched together. (At 360 ppi it comes out to 8 inches by 70 inches!) >http://www.robertstech.com/

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