Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread David Oswald
Features I use: Aperture priority. Program mode. Autofocus with zone AF. Manual focus. Multi-segment metering. Center weighted metering (along with exposure compensation) Exposure compensation. Histogram (this should appear earlier on my list). Delete. Self-timer. 2-second timer (for mirror lockup

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have had the cash under my mattress (I put it there so it doesn't burn >a hole >in my pocket, plus it's winter here) ready to slam down on the virtual camera >shop counter for a nice high spec Pentax DSLR for quite a while. I don't know >

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/7/05, Powell Hargrave, discombobulated, unleashed: >The Ds Slimming Filter. You're kidding? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: PESO - Crack, Boom, Splash

2005-07-20 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: The bottle you gave me was certainly enjoyable. Had a very nice, fresh taste. -- Cheers, Bob Now that it's all EU, I can bring back as much as I want. Legally. 8-) That's a new one for me. My favourite: http://www.internetwines.com/rws29071.html

RE: PESO - Crack, Boom, Splash

2005-07-20 Thread Bob W
The bottle you gave me was certainly enjoyable. Had a very nice, fresh taste. -- Cheers, Bob > > That's a new one for me. My favourite: > http://www.internetwines.com/rws29071.html > > > >

RE: OT: UK tourist questions

2005-07-20 Thread Bob W
Joe's Basement is long gone. I haven't used E6 for such a long time that I can't really say I have a regular place any more. I would be inclined to use Snappy Snaps now, to be honest. There are outlets everywhere, they're usually pretty good, and they should be able to turn work round within the da

Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread David Mann
On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:49 AM, mike wilson wrote: One post after the subject header changed 8-( Still, remarkably few people use it. I use it all the time. It often highlights nasty distractions in the background that I'd otherwise miss, and will also give an indication of how the backgro

Favourite camera/lens combination (was: Features I use)

2005-07-20 Thread David Mann
On Jul 21, 2005, at 8:29 AM, William Robb wrote: As often as possible, I will go out with one camera and one lens. My favourite combos: K2 with 43mm Limited (silver, of course) LX with K35/3.5 and a square hood My most useful combo is anything with the macro lens attached. One of these days

Re: PESO - Rock Pile

2005-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
If you keep posting these photos I'll just have to go there... Bruce Dayton wrote: This is another not so common site in Monument Valley. From my recollection, this area had a whole bunch of rocks fall down. So there is quite a bit of broken and jumbled sandstone laying around. Some of it, li

Re: tripod enablement (plus a bonus)

2005-07-20 Thread David Mann
On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:33 PM, William Robb wrote: The head looks like the one I have on my big tripod. It's OK, but you will want to take it apart and grease it if you want it to work smoothly. The legs look kinda junior. I had to look up the Bogen codes and translate them to Manfrotto: t

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Doug Brewer
Shel, comments inline... On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not quite. I didn't ~need~ auto bracketing, nor did I need bracketed shots. I decided to try it because the project at hand was boring and repetitive and I didn't want to waste time on something I really didn't wa

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Sure, get two their small... Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jul 20, 2005, at 6:57 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On the D you also have the option of holding the DOF lever in which gives you continuous stop down metering. This may also work on the Ds and DL but I have no experience trying this with

PESO - Rock Pile

2005-07-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is another not so common site in Monument Valley. From my recollection, this area had a whole bunch of rocks fall down. So there is quite a bit of broken and jumbled sandstone laying around. Some of it, like this one, have very interesting formations. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Polarizer ISO

Re: *istDL

2005-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I played with an e-volt a couple of weeks ago. The finder was tunnel like. The clerk looked through my D and said he'd rather have that. Scott Loveless wrote: Just after paying for my tripod today, I took the opportunity to handle an *istDL. It really felt cheap and plasticky. Compared to

Re: OT: UK tourist questions

2005-07-20 Thread David Mann
On Jul 21, 2005, at 12:10 AM, mike wilson wrote: If you plan on going to many NT properties, join it. £60 for a year for a couple and you will be suprsed how quickly you will recoup that cost in entry fees. My partner joined our local Historic Places Trust which got her into NT propertie

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 20, 2005, at 6:57 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On the D you also have the option of holding the DOF lever in which gives you continuous stop down metering. This may also work on the Ds and DL but I have no experience trying this with either of those cameras. Yes, it works the same way.

*istDL

2005-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Just after paying for my tripod today, I took the opportunity to handle an *istDL. It really felt cheap and plasticky. Compared to just the feel of the *istD and *istDS, it's quite a step down. I was disappointed. On a semi-related note, I also fooled around with an Evolt. I'd say as far as st

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Powell Hargrave
The Ds Slimming Filter. All my over weight friends now love me. No longer have to search out anorexic models to create images of beautiful people. Seriously I hope this is the stupidest thing ever put into a Pentax camera. If it isn't I don't think I want to know. Would be willing to pay for

Re: PAW - Textures

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I like the composition - it's one of those shots that I'd normally walk past and ignore. I envy people who can "see" photos in everyday subjects. My son's like that (I curse the day I gave him his first camera :) Thanks. I really appreciate your comment. I agree with Shel that it's a b

Re: PAW - Textures

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Wow! Great detail. I like the composition, the way the apparently helter-skelter jumble of bricks comes together in such a pleasing way. I also like that there are different size and shaped bricks (or blocks or whatever) in the pile - makes for nice variety and different geometries. I li

Re: PAW: Trying the 77 Limited

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I like both this and the first one in terms of composition (I like the nice tight crop, along with the tilt of the head). I'm not so thrilled about the post-processing, but I think that's just a personal thing. I think that if it were normally exposed and processed as a b&w rendering, it w

Re: PAW: Trying the 77 Limited

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Just doesn't cut it for me. Boris. Her eyes are dead, and regardless of anything else you do with the pic, that's something to be overcome. I have had the benefit of having seen the original colour pic and her eyes are naturally very dark in colour. I was sitting on the right from her

Re: PAW: Trying the 77 Limited

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Just doesn't cut it for me. Boris. Her eyes are dead, and regardless of anything else you do with the pic, that's something to be overcome. Thanks Shel... Your comment is noted and appreciated! Boris

Re: PESO: Dog's life

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hi gang, http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=116#comments Comments here and there welcome... Good photo. Really bad life :-(... Boris

Re: Paw. GFM Pic #10. IR #2

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I was going to save this for the weekend, but i will be at a 2 day show, so Here is another IR shot. http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=GFM_TREE.jpg Taken at the swing bridge. This dead tree fasinated me all weekend. I tried to get some interesting

Re: PESO - MV Sunset

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! After shooting the Mittens at dusk, We were able to turn around and look out of the valley at this last display of light. MV, by the way, is Monument Valley. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld ISO 800, 1/250 sec @ f/6.7 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PA

Re: tripod enablement (plus a bonus)

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Jul 2005 at 23:26, Scott Loveless wrote: > I picked up this kit locally for quite a bit less than the B&H price. > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=3 > 53327&is=REG&addedTroughType=search I primarily got it because my wife wanted > a > leg set

Re: PESO:Gabriel, the Listener

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Well, I won't comment on the skintones, as you already mentioned those. Ditto... Other than that, I think it's a wonderful photo. I like the close crop, and the light source in the background. A photo with a great deal of character. Frank, I chose to reply to your comment rather than

Re: PESO:Silent, but not Silence

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Just submitted a new picture at Foto.no http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=185210 The title is: Silent, but not Silence. I was on my way home from the folk music festival. Guess the title kindo reflects my mood then. Most likely I will add another one later tonight. The

Re: tripod enablement (plus a bonus)

2005-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/20/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The head looks like the one I have on my big tripod. It's OK, but you will > want to take it apart and grease it if you want it to work smoothly. > The legs look kinda junior. They felt kinda junior, too. The cams are plastic and the metal leg

Re: Major Enablement :-)

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hints please. 200/2.8 Macro? Even at 200/4 Macro it is Major indeed! Boris

Re: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! This is a point I have tried to make for years. If you can not depend upon the automation to do it right almost all of the time, the only thing the automation does is help you forget the skills you need when it doesn't. Oh yes, by the way, this is not just a robocam problem, any meter use

Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Nobody yet has mentioned DOF preview. Am I alone? (Knowing I am not) No, I am with ya... So ok, I'll bite... On *istD I use mostly: - Hyper Program mode for exposure - Matrix Metering for metering - Lots of exposure compensation - Lots of continious auto-focus - Some DOF preview -

Re: tripod enablement (plus a bonus)

2005-07-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: tripod enablement (plus a bonus) I picked up this kit locally for quite a bit less than the B&H price. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=353327&is=REG&addedTroughType=search I primarily

tripod enablement (plus a bonus)

2005-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
I picked up this kit locally for quite a bit less than the B&H price. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=353327&is=REG&addedTroughType=search I primarily got it because my wife wanted a leg set that would allow mounting the center column at 90 degrees fo

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
well, everyone seems to be in on it then, since individual companies seem to forecast around the same total, as do industry groups, at about 3.6M total for the coming year. not that the industry isn't full of circular logic, but the spread isn't as large as one might otherwise expect. as i said

Re: BOZ has updated his site.

2005-07-20 Thread Mat Maessen
Yeesh, even I'm hitting a Wall here. -Mat On 7/20/05, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dear (even More) obscured by clouds, can I *please* have > some of whatever you are smoking? > > mishka > > On 7/20/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought about saying that. > > > > Cott

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread K.Takeshita
On 7/20/05 10:34 PM, "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the CIPA actual total matched pretty closely with forecast for year-end > 2004. Canon and Nikon were only a few percent off. Last month, all makers combined produced approx 250K DSLRs for world wide and this figure has been fairl

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not quite. I didn't ~need~ auto bracketing, nor did I need bracketed shots. I decided to try it because the project at hand was boring and repetitive and I didn't want to waste time on something I really didn't want to do. I'd have done just as well with a manual camera, just not as fast. Nor d

Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Working with a Leica, and other RF cameras, you get pretty good at visualizing DoF. I used to use it a lit in the Spottie days, and I really like the feature for times it's needed, but these days it's not needed too often, plus it slows down getting the shot. Shel > [Original Message] > From:

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
the CIPA actual total matched pretty closely with forecast for year-end 2004. Canon and Nikon were only a few percent off. businesses who forecast too far wrong consistently don't get trusted anymore and that shows up as volatility in their share prices. companies are rewarded for consistently

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread K.Takeshita
On 7/20/05 8:12 PM, "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > all useful, but i was quoting worldwide figures published by the > manufacturers themselves. The only figures I trust are the data published every month by CIPA of Japan. It breaks down by PS, DSLR, pixel numbers, manufactured vs. del

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jon M" Subject: Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD I read the Pentax DSLR manuals regarding use of old lenses on the *istD/DS/DL, but they seem kinda vague to me, and not very confidence-inspiring for using old glass on the new bodies.

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% If they can sell only 20K of DSLR's in the hottest market segment, how many do you think it can sell of the one above? I already have an istD. I don't see a Ds or Dl in my future. If they want me to buy

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference) i disagree. i think that before digital, there was a lot more qualitative knowledge required that couldn't be so easily written down. film choice determined lots of things, as d

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Graywolf
Does it have to be only one, or just one at a time? For me the 4x5 Graphic is lots of fun, but expensive to run. The MX's are fun. Usually I just carry one with the 35mm and 100mm lenses unless there is some reason to carry more kit. Even the new to me digital robocam is fun, although it is

Re: Late afternoon walk

2005-07-20 Thread Butch Black
Nice I may have to check it out Friday Butch

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
It's fairly simple actually, you set the camera to allow shutter release with the lens set to other than A Set the mode to manual, (M). Select the shooting aperture and then either compose and instantly meter the scene by pressing the green button, on a D or the exposure lock on the Ds or DL.

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread Jon M
So I'm curious... I read the Pentax DSLR manuals regarding use of old lenses on the *istD/DS/DL, but they seem kinda vague to me, and not very confidence-inspiring for using old glass on the new bodies. Exactly how are the old lenses used on the DSLRs? --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
hundreds of thousands vs millions. Herb - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% Because there litterally hundreds of thousands of high-end Pentax MF users world wide. The Pentax 6

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
i think a sustainable niche is the set of current Pentax lens owners, including the ones that screamed when their pre-A lenses wouldn't work exactly the same on the *istD* bodies. it means giving up on the idea that they can expand their market and concentrate on holding onto the people they al

Re: Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 01:33:35AM +0200, Juan Buhler wrote: > This is so obvious that I?m surprised I haven?t seen it here before. I > probably just missed it, but I only thought of it today, while > shooting with the K24/3.5: > > - Set the camera to P > - Dial the aperture I want > - Set the exp

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Jul 2005 at 3:02, Pål Jensen wrote: > Because there litterally hundreds of thousands of high-end Pentax MF users > world > wide. The Pentax 645 dominates the Japanese MF market which is the largest in > the world. Pentax have 40% market share there. In addition, so far theres no > competiti

Re: BOZ has updated his site.

2005-07-20 Thread Mishka
dear (even More) obscured by clouds, can I *please* have some of whatever you are smoking? mishka On 7/20/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought about saying that. > > Cotty wrote: > > >>>My point? > >>> > >>> > >>the top of your head? > >> > >>Tom Reese > >> > >> > > > >:-) >

RE: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Jul 2005 at 3:05, Markus Maurer wrote: > Hi Rob > I really dislike changing lenses on the job a lot but started to prefer > different lenses instead of zooms too. > That's why I use two bodies now, for the 17mm-28mm wide lenses a small and > very basic P30 or Chinon at F5.6-11, > I do not ne

RE: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Rob I really dislike changing lenses on the job a lot but started to prefer different lenses instead of zooms too. That's why I use two bodies now, for the 17mm-28mm wide lenses a small and very basic P30 or Chinon at F5.6-11, I do not need a lot of manual control here, and the normal or tele le

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: > one might ask the same of a $10K body. how many 645D's do you think would be > sold to this mailing list? there are probably a couple of hundred *istD* > owners here. i'd say that they represent the bleeding edge of Pentax > adopters with some cash to spare. there are also a numb

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
one might ask the same of a $10K body. how many 645D's do you think would be sold to this mailing list? there are probably a couple of hundred *istD* owners here. i'd say that they represent the bleeding edge of Pentax adopters with some cash to spare. there are also a number of 645 owners. eve

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
Well that niche sounds too narrow to be sustainable, but I guess that's your point. FWIW, I think it's nice that such a small player as Pentax has come away with so little loss in the war for market shares. For being a David against two, or maybe three, Goliaths, it seems that they're pretty

RE: PAW: Trying the 77 Limited

2005-07-20 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Boris this one is better. I would correct that little irritating speck at the nose and try to increase the contour around the chin a bit more if possible. But anyhow, the face, the eyes and the composition are just wonderful. Congratulations Boris. greetings Markus >>-Original Message---

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: > which has been my point all along. something like the Nikon D2X slightly > derated is what i would like. i could live with a 10MP sensor instead of a > 12MP one, and somewhat slower maximum frame rate. If they can sell only 20K of DSLR's in the hottest market segment, how many d

Re: Late afternoon walk

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Hemenway
Hi Markus: Thanks for the comments. I'll try again but it's difficult to get those swans to pose for me. :-) Jim Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Jim you have very nice place near you to go for a walk! I like the pictures of the pond despite wishing for a bit better light conditions later in the a

Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
have to use DOF preview with gradient ND filters. can't tell where to place the line otherwise. Herb - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

Re: PESO: Dog's life

2005-07-20 Thread Albano Garcia
Hi Frank, It means canine "asylum, hostel, leave him here for some money", I don't know the exact translation. Thanks for comments Regards Albano --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/20/05, Albano Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi gang, > > > http://www.flaneur.alb

RE: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Butch Black
Shel wrote: Just nine seconds separate these two pics. They are almost identical shots. Both were made with the istDs, both at a rating of 3200 ISO, both @ 70mm, both at an aperture of 5.6, both using multi-segment metering, both using auto focus (more on that later!), both on one of the automa

RE: Late afternoon walk

2005-07-20 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jim you have very nice place near you to go for a walk! I like the pictures of the pond despite wishing for a bit better light conditions later in the afternoon. The swan shots are technically good but the pose is "the well known one" ... for me. greetings Markus From a late afternoon wal

Re: BOZ has updated his site.

2005-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought about saying that. Cotty wrote: My point? the top of your head? Tom Reese :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in

Re: Kodak loses more money, cuts more jobs

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
i was beginning to wonder when someone would notice. i saw the articles in the news feeds when i got to work at 8:30 this morning. the first ones came out at just before 7AM EDT. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2

RE: my Philly PDML pix

2005-07-20 Thread Amita Guha
Glad you guys liked them! Amita

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
all useful, but i was quoting worldwide figures published by the manufacturers themselves. Herb - Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% In general, Canon RebelXT

Re: Pentax sells lenses on OEM basis

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
less than half. Konica-Minolta sells more. Pentax is a very strong #2 though, easily within overtaking range. Herb - Original Message - From: "Jim Hemenway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Pentax sells lenses on OEM basis The BenQ conn

Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
more or less my position as well. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% I have had the cash under my mattress (I put it there so it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket,

Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
which has been my point all along. something like the Nikon D2X slightly derated is what i would like. i could live with a 10MP sensor instead of a 12MP one, and somewhat slower maximum frame rate. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wedne

Re: Kodak loses more money, cuts more jobs

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
robotics does that for you. Herb - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Kodak loses more money, cuts more jobs They probably don't make all of them, but Kodak does make some of their digital cameras.

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Doug Brewer
On Jul 20, 2005, at 4:29 PM, William Robb wrote: As often as possible, I will go out with one camera and one lens. Sometimes it'a wide angle, sometimes a normal, sometimes a telephoto, but always just one lens. I find it to be a good exercise in seeing. William Robb I've been doing that

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: >that's why there > is now a Phase One medium format back coming out with 39 megapixels. who's > the market for a $10K or even $8K digital camera from Pentax? Everyone who wants great image quality and who cannot afford 30K + an obsolete camera made for a dying medium. This includ

Re: Persistingly OT Re: Fanatics

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When waching foreign (to me) films, I far prefer to have English subtitles, instead of dubbing. I want to hear it in the language it was filmed in. Besides, depending on the language, I can usually tell when the person transla

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
i didn't think it speeds up the process enough to notice when autoreview is set on. are you sure because i thought it reads from the memory buffer then and not the card. anyway, i have it turned off too and review more or less for the same reasons you do. Herb - Original Message -

Re: Pentax sells lenses on OEM basis

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
BenQ is the second largest brand in the Norwegian market for home cinema projectors, only behind Epson. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jim Hemenway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Pentax sells lenses on OEM basis The BenQ connection is

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread K.Takeshita
On 7/20/05 7:07 PM, "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they are a distant #4 or 5, depending on Olympus sales. I was referring to a database collected daily from 18 major electronics chain stores which is considered the most accurate sales trend info in Japan (it's for a private subscripti

Re: Features I use (formerly the Nine Second Difference)

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
i disagree. i think that before digital, there was a lot more qualitative knowledge required that couldn't be so easily written down. film choice determined lots of things, as did developing and printing, that you could show and demonstrate, but not in a way that was so easily controllable. the

Re: Late afternoon walk

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Hemenway
Thanks Mark! Jim Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello Jim, I fancy the second one the best. You were able to get very good detail in the tree and the composition feels right. Nice shot!

Re: Pentax sells lenses on OEM basis

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Hemenway
The BenQ connection is interesting. They make a great DVD writer. I don't know if Pentax has anything to do with that, but I've read that Pentax supplies the optics in more than half of the CD ROMs manufactured worldwide. Jim Mark Roberts wrote: I realize that posting any *good* news abo

Re: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Most cameras that I'm interested in that provide automation features >also allow manual operation. No control is lost, unless by choice. >From the 2003 PDML quotation list: "The photographer's lack of discipline is independent of the camera." - Pål

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
that must be why Pentax sold 20K DSLRs worldwide last quarter. Herb - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% 1) new SLR buyers who have never owned any SLR before - i think this m

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
they didn't want cheaper access to the Sony sensors they use in their cameras? how smart is that? Herb - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42% it's a sign that either Pentax want

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
they'd better do what Timex did in their commercials then - "Takes a Licking and Keeps on Ticking". i don't know if any of these commercials ever made it outside North America. they need to show the camera being used in conditions that would "stop the others cold" and deliver it. none of that co

Aperture priority with non-A lenses on the istD

2005-07-20 Thread Juan Buhler
This is so obvious that I´m surprised I haven´t seen it here before. I probably just missed it, but I only thought of it today, while shooting with the K24/3.5: - Set the camera to P - Dial the aperture I want - Set the exposure compensation in the camera so it will overexpose by as many stops as

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
more than a few business people have suggested that Pentax's only way to make the imaging products division profitable is to abandon the consumer camera market entirely or to market only to a niche with much less competition, i.e. medium format. in either case, if these people's suggestions get

Re: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
sounds to me like the camera was designed assuming a certain aperture blade movement model that lenses don't fit very well. have you tried to see if, for a given lens instance, the error is repeatable? Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: W

Re: Most and least-used features--WAS: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jul 20, 2005, at 1:57 PM, mike wilson wrote: Nobody yet has mentioned DOF preview. Am I alone? (Knowing I am not) I use DoF preview once in a very rare while ... I know it's there and it does get used, but I've lived with cameras that didn't have it at

Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Jul 2005 at 17:17, Tom C wrote: > Mine too... I have had the cash under my mattress (I put it there so it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket, plus it's winter here) ready to slam down on the virtual camera shop counter for a nice high spec Pentax DSLR for quite a while. I don't know how mu

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
those people are in category 1. PMA forecasts that digital printing at the kiosk or the photofinisher is really going to pick up this year while at-home printing is going to drop. they figure that total volume will still drop for a little while yet, but stabilize pretty quickly. the reason is t

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
have her walk into the nearest 4 camera stores and see what she walks out with. the sales 'droids aren't going to be much help at most stores. if you go along, maybe. Herb - Original Message - From: "Dave Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:42 AM Sub

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
the price. at one time, you thought the 645D would have to sell for a street price well over $10K to make any money (up to $15K if i remember right) while i thought it would street for between $10K and $11K. i'm willing to move the street price down to an even $10K. Mike Reichmann says that he

Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Tom C
Mine too... Tom C. My concern is that their step forward won't even be comparable with the bodies at the bottom to the mid-range of the Canon line-up. Rob Studdert

Re: The Nine Second Difference

2005-07-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 20, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Graywolf wrote: That being said (and I know this is obvious, but I'll say it anyway), the more automation, the less control for the user. Since you didn't have control, you let the machine decide for you, and I guess one has to live with those results, for better or

Re: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Jul 2005 at 19:02, Herb Chong wrote: > they've made that body. it's called the *istD. now they promise that there > will > be a higher end body to replace it. once it is ready, then they can start > cutting features again. That's obviously how they can produce the remainder of the promised

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Herb Chong
they are a distant #4 or 5, depending on Olympus sales. Canon forecasts 1.6M DSLRs in the next fiscal year, Nikon 1.4M, Konica-Minolta 250K, and Pentax 120K. if you believe Sony's 3.6M total market size for the next year, that leaves 230K units left over for Olympus and everyone else. these are

Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%

2005-07-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Jul 2005 at 18:58, Herb Chong wrote: > it all depends on what price they list the 645D at, doesn't it. If anyone seriously wants to get into a MF DSLR kit my local pro-retailer has a super special on at the moment, only AU$35,750.00 for a Phase One Demonstration Stock P25 (Hasselblad H1)

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