Re: Rumours, rumours...

2008-07-09 Thread timber
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, Bird In Focus? ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
BIFlight. 2008/7/9 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, Bird In Focus? ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Matthew, So feigning behaviour takes place among skuas. That's one step closer, at least. I think the same material as Birds of North America Online cites is available as a PDF here: http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic11-2-93.pdf (Observations on the behaviour of certain arctic

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
2008/7/9 Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 5. the spot on the walkway isn't close enough to the nest to trigger their nest protection thought/behavior patterns That's exactly the point! I would assume that getting too close to the nest would trigger the well-known aggressive nest defence

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
No; it is Bird In Fall. First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. Thats the goal, because the sky gives a cleaner background. I'll share the basic tecnique. You have to have the camera strapped

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
2008/7/9 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. This is simple territory marking; here i reign, don't step closer. Unlikely without some associated form of display. Question is whether taking stance on the ground in a overly conspicuous place qualifies... But I agree... At least on a gut feeling

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: No; it is Bird In Fall. First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. Thats the goal, because the sky gives a cleaner background. I'll share the

Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
Hmmm... I think there may be many a good pint behind that asking. Make them organic produce pints and we're instantly there! :-) Jostein 2008/7/8 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's no pint in asking. What I do is environmentally friendly, what others do is not. That's the rule. or the

Lust, get thee behind me

2008-07-09 Thread Derby Chang
or not... http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/07/smc-pentax-da-2.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: PESO: At the beach

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
2008/7/8 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In shorts, a experiment. It came out a lot better than expected. From a photographic point of view, I think it's crap. But I tend to like it as a picture. Maybe I'm biased? Technically this shot is just right, imho. Focus just where it should be.

Re: Photographing red flower and plants, problems.

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
No i did not. Never thought. Thanks. I tried again on Monday and Tuesday. The yellow, pink and orange flowers are fine. For the red i tried metering off the grass, that was better, also -0.3 and -0.7 ev, that was sos so. I tried some off camera wireless fill from the 360, so so, but 1-2 that

Re: PESO - At the Show

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Nice shot, in what looks like trricky lighting. LLike the line up. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for you people fans: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=280 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Ha Ha. Nice catch Paul. The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters to shoot.:-) No helmet laws in Michigan.??or is this a scooter thing. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Frank. Check out that heavy duty brain

Re: PESO: Finch Tryst

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Well it works for me. Like it. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, simply blew it out with the bright slider in the drop down enhance menu. I liked the gritty look, so just left it there. Thanks for comments, Paul. Jack --- On Mon, 7/7/08,

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have been accepted, since voting became the norm. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs up. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 8,

Re: Kennyboy has a hands off review on the new Nikon D700

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the URL for this review? His opinion, quoted below, doesn't sound so off-base to me. Whether off-base or not (and I really don't give a

Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's interesting that you and Steady chose similar subjects today. Its a consperisy.:-) I like the panning and the sense of motion, but agree that a more inclusive pic would be better. Yes i am going to go along

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 9/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, Bird In Focus? ;) Bicycle in Focus. Ask Frank about it... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote: If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have been accepted I think Bruce was saying that when he votes on *other* people's shots he gives 1 yes vote out of every 10 photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet is judged adequate. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha Ha. Nice catch Paul. The way things are going,m you and Frank should have a lot of scooters to shoot.:-)

Re: PESO: At the beach

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you sir. For the thumb up, and for your reasoning. Appreciated. 2008/7/9 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/8 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In shorts, a experiment. It came out a lot better than expected. From a photographic point of view, I think it's crap. But I tend to like it as a

Re: PESO: Finch Tryst

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dave! Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Tryst To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:18 AM Well it works for me. Like it. Dave On Mon, Jul

Re: PESO: Snake!

2008-07-09 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Common Garter snake which was lurking round outside the house yesterday. http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/99626733 Another one that I looked at much earlier, but never got around to commenting on. The DOF makes it!

PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread frank theriault
http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg Another of my subway series. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
Maybe she's mugging a housefly. (nice shot, although I wouldn't want to mess with her.) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/9/2008 8:58 AM

Re: PESO - Scooting Along Bloor

2008-07-09 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:40 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's interesting that you and Steady chose similar subjects today. Its a consperisy.:-) I like the panning and the sense of motion, but agree

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread pnstenquist
Good one. Shot from the hip? Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/ july_08_08+003.jpg Another of my subway series.

Re: PESO - At the Show

2008-07-09 Thread Doug Brewer
David J Brooks wrote: Nice shot, in what looks like trricky lighting. LLike the line up. Dave thanks, Dave. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
Maybe she's just realizing she forgot her glasses. ;) Really well done reflection of the age divide and, perhaps, a willingness to confront the realities of the world.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent, and just the way the newspaper makes me feel most mornings. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread AlunFoto
It's been many months since I last cast any votes at the gallery, so the situation may have changed. Back then, however, I noticed a certain variation over time in average image quality. And it wasn't always a turn for the worse. In periods, people would restrict themselves very sensibly, and at

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
I've imagined seeing many me too versions of a particular type or style of scene. As though there were a certain combination of elements that assured acceptance. Maybe that is evidence of learning.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote: It's been many months since I last cast any votes at the gallery, so the situation may have changed. Back then, however, I noticed a certain variation over time in average image quality. And it wasn't always a turn for the worse. Just this morning I went through a patch of

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave. We have a helmet law. I guess his toy helmet

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Walker
P. J. Alling wrote: As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... Then I assume you'd back the law that Woody Allen as

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
You've obviously gotten to the conversion methods down. It's a nice subtle juxtaposition study, and the tilt gives the feeling of riding a commuter train. frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9

Re: PESO - Backstage...

2008-07-09 Thread Fernando
Nice. Crisp image, beautiful colors and great soft light; I also like the background. Cheers Fernando On 7/9/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enjoy http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
I like the two opposite expression, while both have reading materials to look at, in there own way. Huh.?? Anyway its good. Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9

Re: PESO - Backstage...

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Good candid shot Doug. The snow fence seems to act like wings, or a cape. Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enjoy http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays in the back yard the last few days. Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in LR and bump up the oranges a bit, seems to help. Anyway,

Re: PESO: Two re-posts

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
I don't remember seeing these Rick, so its possible they did not get through. Like the tower shot, with the cloud swirls and the moody effect of the Rhine shot. Dave On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither of these got any comments, and one of them isn't in

Re: PESO: At the beach

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Its crappy art.:-) I like this one. The line work or curves etc work well. Its a bit dark, but i suspect this was shot really late or really early in the day. Dave On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear helmets. I don't want to pay the public health bills for the long term brain injuries. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if

PESO 2008 - 113 - GDG

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The music never stops ... this one's for frank, of course. :-) http://homepage.mac.com/godders/113-bicyclist.jpg The Bicyclist - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
Like the set, Dave. Your use of shadows works well. Was the jay shot with the 300 Sigma? Are they cropped to any extent? Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread pnstenquist
Wow! Some really nice work here. Love the clematis poking through the boards, the lilies in the fog and of course the jay doing lunch. Great stuff. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with an A 24 FA 43 and vacillated between a 55 f1.8 or 85 f2.0 and finally decided on the real telephoto. I didn't take a tripod, was really looking to

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Bruce Walker wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: As a libertarian I oppose helmet laws on principal, (It's your body, if you're stupid enough to not wear a helmet, thats fine with me). However they seem to make for some amusing photographs, so now I'm torn... Then I assume you'd back

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
No you're not, libertarian's answer. Public Health Bills? What the hell are they? Bob Sullivan wrote: I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear helmets. I don't want to pay the public health bills for the long term brain injuries. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM,

Re: PESO - Backstage...

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
I like it. So introvert, before a performanse. Interesting. I can't decide if he looks terrified or not? I only knows he looks better than me ;-) -- MaritimTim 2008/7/9 Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: enjoy http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:16:46PM +0200, Tim ??sleby wrote: No; it is Bird In Fall. First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. Thats the goal, because the sky gives a cleaner background.

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 in the gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every single one has been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my acceptance rate is more like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One is the gallery is filled in - so

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nicely done, Frank. I like it. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:58:39 AM, you wrote: ft http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9 ft http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHSuk6vyg6I/CkY/cyqYLLZnIUo/s1600-h/july_08_08+003.jpg ft Another of my subway series. Comments always

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/7/9 John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:16:46PM +0200, Tim ??sleby wrote: No; it is Bird In Fall. First I shotgun them, and then I photograph them while they are falling. The hard part is to get them in frame while they are high in the air. Thats the goal, because

Re: PESO - Backstage...

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think you caught the moment you were trying to convey. Nicely done! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 9:22:19 PM, you wrote: DB enjoy DB http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=283 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: No, 1-10 is my voting average. Since having originally 53 in the gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in. Not every single one has been re-submitted but, most have. I'd say my acceptance rate is more like 1 in 30 now. I attribute it to 2 major things. One is the

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Ken Waller
Probably pondering which scooter to purchase. ;+] Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Nothing Good in the News http://tinyurl.com/6oxcf9

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:41:51AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 9/7/08, Tim ?sleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, Bird In Focus? ;) Bicycle in Focus. Ask Frank about it... Frank knows about focus? -- PDML

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread Ken Waller
0223 would benefit from a square crop, omitting the open space in the URH corner. 0227 is the best tripod image I've seen in a while ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst

Re: OT - Question to birding people

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:41:51AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 9/7/08, Tim ?sleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I have sat down at the path, to get a BIF or two, Bird In Focus? ;) Bicycle in Focus. Ask Frank about it... Frank knows about focus? You

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Jack. The Jays are shot using the Sigma 300 F4. I put the tripod next to me whilst sitting in my patio chair, MF and pre focused on a peanut, and hand on the trigger. When one flew down i shot. I don't have a release.:-) Yes i did crop some what on the first one, and quite a bit on the

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul. Those Clematis poke through every year, and pretty much in the same spot, but i shoot them anyway.:-) We have the jays feed schedule down pretty good, so it gives me time to set up. The shadowy shot of the lilies is just that a shadow on my garage wall, just as the sun was poking

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0223 would benefit from a square crop, omitting the open space in the URH corner. Thanks Ken. I did do a crop, mostly to give it a rule of thirds look, but i'll try a square and see how it looks. 0227 is the best tripod image

Re: PESO: Traffic, what traffic?

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you're not, libertarian's answer. Public Health Bills? What the hell are they? Well, Bill, me, Frank, Adam, Mike know what they are.:-) Dave Bob Sullivan wrote: I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but mak'emwear

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
I like the pattern of the blast, very good. What do you convert with.? Dave On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:38 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went with a friends to the 4th of July fireworks in NY this last week and in spite of the rain it was a very good time. I carried the Dx with

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Raw Shooter Essentials, it's much better looking, without any Photoshop work before export as a TIKF. I recently started using ProPhoto color space in my work flow which seems to give better results, if I remember to convert the profile in Photoshop before output, so I changed back to the

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's no mystery to it other than that you need to understand colorspaces better. ProPhoto RGB describes a much larger color gamut than Adobe RGB or sRGB. If you have subtle colors in ProPhoto RGB and they disappear when you convert to sRGB or Adobe RGB, they've been clipped as they

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
Must be 1 in 10 if you had submitted all 53. Then again, you may have submitted a number of 'other' images which had not been previously accepted. I'd guess my voting yes rate would average about 1 in 45-50.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Dayton

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote: I'd guess my voting yes rate would average about 1 in 45-50.(?) Do you mean you vote Yes on 1 out of every 50 images that you vote on? Or that 1 out of every 50 of *your* images gets sufficient Yes votes to get in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
Some nice shots there, Dave. What is going on in IGP0167? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard To: Pentax Discuss

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have submitted more than just those 53. 2 of my images were rejected the first time and now made it in and 3 of the 53 so far have made it in. My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed it down for the final judges - not make the final judgement. Kind of like a Grand Jury -

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: My take on the peer voting is that I am just trying to weed it down for the final judges - not make the final judgement. This is exactly my take on the issue. And I frequently vote yes on superb images that I *know* aren't going to make the final cut. Things like Frank's

RE: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Bob W
One of them is thinking I was like that once. The other is thinking I'm never gonna get like that!. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 09 July 2008 13:59 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Nothing

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
These are really nice, Peter. What sorts of shutter speeds were you using? They're very sharp for hand-held shots. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I To:

Re: PESO: Two re-posts

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave. http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 7/9/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Two re-posts To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:54 AM I don't remember seeing these

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some nice shots there, Dave. What is going on in IGP0167? Thanks Rick. IGP0167 is a shadow reflecting off my garage wall, of part of the largest Asian Lille i have. Sun was just starting to light it up and Liz thought it would

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Brian Walters
Great expression on the older lady's face. Well done. (she's probably thinking if she doesn't turn the sound level of that contraption down, I'm gonna let her have it!. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Brian Walters
Very interesting pattern to the explosions - not what I'm used to seeing. It's nice - but the _fireworks1a.html is fantastic. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:38:45

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Brian Walters
Every time I think I understand colourspace conversions (or something else to do with digital capture), someone on the list shatters my illusions! Learning new things is one of the great benefits of PDML. Thanks for posting that explanation, Godfrey. Cheers Brian

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
I'm not surprised this question came up. ;) I meant, I may average something like 1 yes vote out of every 45-50 total votes. Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery To:

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
This fact is the reason I may vote yes when I'm torn over the worthiness of an image. It's sort of like giving it a chance. Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery To:

PESO: Is this feeder full?

2008-07-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside the feeder. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 K20D and old F70-210 zoom (the good one). Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice Dave, but what is the dark 8th photo? You afraid to show the marijuana plants. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger

Re: PESO - Nothing Good in the News

2008-07-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, I find this photo to be the best of the subway series. It is a classic - young and old. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done, Frank. I like it. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 5:58:39 AM, you wrote:

Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?

2008-07-09 Thread Jack Davis
Good catch of a cute resourceful rodent! Jack --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Is this feeder full? To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 3:39 PM from the back yard... It's easier to eat

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Believe it or not 1/125 sec. I have plenty of others that are at 1/2 sec or so that are not quite so sharp. Rick Womer wrote: These are really nice, Peter. What sorts of shutter speeds were you using? They're very sharp for hand-held shots. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On

PESO: Window Boxes

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824size=lg K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/90, RAW via LR. Rick -- PDML

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I assumed that there was a problem with the color space, so I tried using the Adobe RGB color space that I had good results from couple of years ago. The *ist-Ds will only allow sRGB or Adobe RGB for recording purposes, and I have the *ist-Ds set for Adobe RGB, (now I'm not sure that makes

Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?

2008-07-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I have bad news, the feeder is full but it's full of squirrel, though I'm sure the hawks like the menu... Bob Sullivan wrote: from the back yard... It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside the feeder. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546 K20D

Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

2008-07-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/ Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays in the back yard the last few days. Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in LR

Re: PESO: Window Boxes

2008-07-09 Thread Doug Franklin
Rick Womer wrote: I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather plain facade. This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824size=lg Excellent! Which small town was that? I might actually

PESO: Window Boxes 2

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
Another set of window boxes, shot from our hotel room near Wiesbaden, near dusk. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836 K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/ 5.6 @ 1/30, RAW via LR. For some reason, the camera really underexposed this shot; I applied a full stop of exposure compensation in

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't understand your workflow well enough. It doesn't help that you are using antediluvian versions of software to do your work. A lot has happened in image processing over the past five years since Photoshop 7 was current. RSE is also more than two and a half years out of date. When

Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

2008-07-09 Thread pnstenquist
Wow. You're a tough customer. I don't vote any more. Not enough time in a day to do someone else's job. But for the brief time when I did a bit of voting I was doling out a yes for about one out of four. I figured the peer role was to narrow down the choices, eliminate the obvious bad stuff,

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread pnstenquist
Color space settings in the camera are irrelevant when shooting RAW. But what does matter is that your RAW converter and PhotoShop version are on the same page. You'd be better of converting in Elements and using that software for post. Paul -- Original message

Re: PESO -- Fireworks NY 2008 I

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's a good suggestion. Or just using Lightroom and letting it do the whole job. G On Jul 9, 2008, at 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Color space settings in the camera are irrelevant when shooting RAW. But what does matter is that your RAW converter and PhotoShop version are on

Re: PESO: Window Boxes

2008-07-09 Thread Rick Womer
This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of central Wiesbaden along the Lahnstrasse. --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, July 9,

PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
u ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG

2008-07-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
u ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/114-friendlies.jpg I Only Look Friendly - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/6 second, fl=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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