Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not sure what you were driving at in this one. Can you explain further? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: An experiment, I'm not sure if it succeeds, but I'll bet I'll be told.

Re: PESO - Follow the Signs

2011-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice, and funny! It's the Pushme-Pullyou of road signage. ;-) G On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:41 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/07/follow-signs.html Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois

Re: GESO: Flowers

2011-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Intense and sad. You've captured something in several of these that speaks for itself. G On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:19 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I know flower pictures are held by some on this list to be cliché by default. Yet it means something special to us up here in the

Re: Carmelites

2011-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: A couple of weeks ago I photographed the annual procession from the Italian church in London, and posted a picture of an angel. This is the full set, which I've been unable to edit down below the number of shots here, sorry.

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I focused on the tree, not the girl, and she's focused on the tree. The fact that I have to explain it probably means it didn't work. On 7/29/2011 2:02 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Not sure what you were driving at in this one. Can you explain further? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:38 PM, P. J.

OT: Something for the weekend

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
Relax, turn off your mind, float downstream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-pLBQ2D7k B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: I Blurbed too...

2011-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
Well done Dave On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: I just used Blurb to make my professional portfolio (you know, the show-off stuff you present to would be clients...).  This is a private portfolio where some of the shots should never see the light of

Re: PESO EMPRESS

2011-07-29 Thread Rick Womer
Probably a club for cross-dressing men, or grown women playing dress-up. Rick --- On Sun, 7/24/11, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Where was that at, Larry?  Cheers,  Christine On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It's not much of a photo, but his sign made

For Cotty

2011-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts
No comment necessary http://youtu.be/OrkAuwaoFGg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: I Blurbed too...

2011-07-29 Thread Jack Davis
Impressive work, Bong. Congratulations! Jack --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Subject: I Blurbed too... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 8:03 PM I just used Blurb to make my

Re: PESO Iryna 2

2011-07-29 Thread Bruce Walker
And now all the time in the good ol' days of digital, too. :) Good suggestion. -bmw On 11-07-29 12:50 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: That's what you'd do in the good ol' days of film. On 7/29/2011 12:48 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: How about selecting that green triangle and just darkening it, either

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Jack Davis
The seated subject may be seeking peace by isolating on the tree. Soft image could indicate tension.(?) Interesting. Jack --- On Thu, 7/28/11, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely.. To:

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/29/2011 03:26, P. J. Alling wrote: I focused on the tree, not the girl, and she's focused on the tree. The fact that I have to explain it probably means it didn't work There there P.J. I got it, I got it - maybe Jack is one of the lucky ones who never had to read that nausea producing

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Ooops answering myself --- I thought it was JAck that said what Godders said.. I got the joke of the reference, I like the geometry but that fact that the girl is in soft focus detracts from it, actually... If everything were in sharp focus and in BW it would work I think.. My first reaction

Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
This will be a fun exercise. I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching band at night from the field. So we need high iso, espceially sicne the Tv needs ot be reasoanble. Further, he needs to get about 60-80yards in the picutre from the sidelines. He can spend up to

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Jack Davis
You mean that thing about robins being tangled in her hair and all? Well, in this case, the tree trumps all other included debris of civilation. Jack --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Jack Davis
morning...Ann. (damned hangovers!) Jack --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely.. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 8:08 AM Ooops answering myself ---

RE: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
Shouldn't be bats in her hair? Kilmer played Batman didn't he? Anyway, Ogden Nash got it right, cutting through the cloying sweetness with some acid and bitterness. B You mean that thing about robins being tangled in her hair and all? Well, in this case, the tree trumps all other included

RE: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
This will be a fun exercise. I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching band at night from the field. So we need high iso, espceially sicne the Tv needs ot be reasoanble. Further, he needs to get about 60-80yards in the picutre from the sidelines. He can spend up

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/29/2011 11:21, Steven Desjardins wrote: This will be a fun exercise. I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching band at night from the field. So we need high iso, espceially sicne the Tv needs ot be reasoanble. Further, he needs to get about 60-80yards in the

OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ok thunderbirders - I'm enjoying it but but when I finish reading something I want to just hit a key once to go to the next mail without having to close the first when I finished reading and then opening the next... I want to keep all the sent and inbox mail where it is (other than the junk

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
A no brainer: K5 and DA* 16-50. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This will be a fun exercise. I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching band at night from the field. So we need high iso, espceially sicne the Tv needs ot be reasoanble.

RE: Carmelites

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
http://www.web-options.com/Carmelites/ Hope you enjoy. Any hints as to how I can best cut it down and turn it into a tighter essay would be most appreciated. Quite a few of these are very neat. I'd separate People/Portraits from Event shots, at least unless a particular photo or two

Re: I Blurbed too...

2011-07-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Beautiful! Enjoyed the text too! Cheers, Christine On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:03 PM, Bong Manayon wrote: I just used Blurb to make my professional portfolio (you know, the show-off stuff you present to would be clients...). This is a private portfolio where some of the shots should never see

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, what Paul said. Cheers, Christine On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A no brainer: K5 and DA* 16-50. On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: This will be a fun exercise. I have a firend who wants a camera to take pituctrues of a marching band at

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Christine Aguila
by Joyce Kilmer I THINK that I shall never see A poem lovely as a tree. A tree whose hungry mouth is prest Against the sweet earth's flowing breast; A tree that looks at God all day, And lifts her leafy arms to pray; A tree that may in

Re: PESO - Sittin' on the Dock of the Lake--BW

2011-07-29 Thread Christine Aguila
I think I prefer the color version. Cheers, Christine On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Wow--thanks for all the comments. I found the idea of a BW version intriguing, so here it is: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13885654size=lg Rick --- On Thu, 7/28/11,

Re: GESO: Flowers

2011-07-29 Thread Christine Aguila
What Godfrey said! C On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Intense and sad. You've captured something in several of these that speaks for itself. G On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:19 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I know flower pictures are held by some on this list

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amen to that. I was actual using a random school laptop while my own computer was being refit with a new flash drive. i..e, the *^$@$ hard drive crashed. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 7/29/2011 11:21, Steven Desjardins wrote: This will be a fun

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
The K5 is obvious for $1327. The DA* 16-50 is less obvious for $1500. The K5 leaves me about 650-700 for a lens. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Amen to that.  I was actual using a random school laptop while my own computer was being refit with a

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread P. J. Alling
When you're in the two pane view, if the focus is in the thread/message pane, hitting the down arrow moves you to the next message, hitting the n key moves to the next unread message. If focus is in the message pane the down arrow scrolls the message the n key still takes you to the next

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Carlos R.
El 29/07/2011 18:59, Steven Desjardins escribió: The K5 is obvious for $1327. The DA* 16-50 is less obvious for $1500. The K5 leaves me about 650-700 for a lens. I suggest a Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS HSM. It is probably the best in its category nowadays. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread steve harley
On 2011-07-29 11:01 , P. J. Alling wrote: When you're in the two pane view, if the focus is in the thread/message pane, hitting the down arrow moves you to the next message, hitting the n key moves to the next unread message. If focus is in the message pane the down arrow scrolls the message the

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Then I would go with the DA 12-24/4, which sells for around $700 He's not going to want to shoot wide open anyway. because he'll need a bit more depth of field, and I'm a little concerned about the angle of view at 16mm. He won't be able to step back very far from the sideline, since there will

RE: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
I think that I shall never see A billboard lovely as a tree. Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all. --- Ogden Nash by Joyce Kilmer I THINK that I shall never see A poem lovely as a tree. A tree whose hungry mouth is prest Against the sweet earth's flowing

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/29/2011 12:55, Steven Desjardins wrote: Amen to that. I was actual using a random school laptop while my own computer was being refit with a new flash drive. i..e, the*^$@$ hard drive crashed. ouch! ann On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On

Re: GESO: Flowers

2011-07-29 Thread steve harley
On 2011-07-28 06:19 , AlunFoto wrote: I know flower pictures are held by some on this list to be cliché by default. Yet it means something special to us up here in the Frostpit these days. http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=27 you brought me a lot closer to Norway with these;

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks to you both... I just made the n work nicely for me when I was in what I'd call the Index ... I guess it is two panes because on the left is a list of folders and on the right is the list of mail in my inbox in date order with just the subject line showing... the n worked whether I

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Just one more thing _ where is the button for Reply all hiding? didn't see a keyboard thing for that when I looked at the help. ann On 7/29/2011 13:20, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-29 11:01 , P. J. Alling wrote: When you're in the two pane view, if the focus is in the thread/message pane,

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread steve harley
On 2011-07-29 11:47 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: Just one more thing _ where is the button for Reply all hiding? didn't see a keyboard thing for that when I looked at the help. the message pane shows a reply all button to me when relevant; the command is also in the Message menu, and there's a

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread mike wilson
On 29/07/2011 18:08, Ann Sanfedele wrote: ok thunderbirders - I'm enjoying it but but when I finish reading something I want to just hit a key once to go to the next mail without having to close the first when I finished reading and then opening the next... I want to keep all the sent and inbox

Re: GESO: Flowers

2011-07-29 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 28 July 2011 13:19, AlunFoto wrote: I know flower pictures are held by some on this list to be cliché by default. Yet it means something special to us up here in the Frostpit these days. http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=27 Jostein Very moving and just right for the

Re: PESO - Sittin' on the Dock of the Lake

2011-07-29 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 28 July 2011 02:15, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Titled with apologies to Otis Redding... our nephew and his girlfriend in the Adirondacks. Two versions of the shot: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13880994size=lg and

Re: PESO Iryna 2

2011-07-29 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 26 July 2011 20:40, Bruce Walker wrote: Another shot of Iryna, our Ukrainian champion ballroom dancing neighbor turned gardening assistant ... (I've added the 500px.com link for those who are completely allergic to Flickr in any form.) Flickr fancy: http://goo.gl/cTiHG Flickr plain:

Re: GESO: Flowers

2011-07-29 Thread mike wilson
On 28/07/2011 14:19, AlunFoto wrote: I know flower pictures are held by some on this list to be cliché by default. Yet it means something special to us up here in the Frostpit these days. http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=27 Jostein Thanks for taking the time for us. Hope

OT{ Photochoping history +

2011-07-29 Thread P. J. Alling
http://www.fourandsix.com/photo-tampering-history/ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 29 July 2011 18:28, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I think that I shall never see A billboard lovely as a tree. Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all. --- Ogden Nash Root-de-doo-de-doo, a-root-de-doot-de doy di A-root-de doot de dum, a-ree-de-dee-de-doo dee

Re: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread mike wilson
On 29/07/2011 21:35, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 29 July 2011 18:28, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: I think that I shall never see A billboard lovely as a tree. Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all. --- Ogden Nash Root-de-doo-de-doo, a-root-de-doot-de doy di

Re: Carmelites

2011-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Carmelites/ Hope you enjoy. Any hints as to how I can best cut it down and turn it into a tighter essay would be most appreciated. Quite a few of these are very neat. I'd separate

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I didn't lose anything since I store my files on external HDs or the University network drives. I decided to try IT's suggestion and experiment with a 64 GB Flash drive with Windows 7. It's amazing how much faster the old machine is now. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele

RE: PESO -- ...a thing as lovely..

2011-07-29 Thread Bob W
On 29/07/2011 21:35, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 29 July 2011 18:28, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: I think that I shall never see A billboard lovely as a tree. Perhaps, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all. --- Ogden Nash Root-de-doo-de-doo,

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I was thinking about the the 12-24 but I haven't heard much about it. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Then I would go with the DA 12-24/4, which sells for around $700 He's not going to want to shoot wide open anyway. because he'll need a bit more

FS Fryday

2011-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Nothing for sale yet today? Ok. I'll start. #1 Canon 50/1.8 EF II (plastic mount) with EOS Elan body, working, good 2CR5 battery included. $100 shipped in US. #2 generic 500/8 t-mount mirror lens. With PK mount. $60 shipped in US. #3 SMC Pentax-A 70-210/4 I've got two -- both with perfect

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Igor Roshchin
Just in case: K-5 @ Amazon (from Amazon) - $1273 or@ buydig.com - $1269 16-50 @ Adorama: $999 (or $1150 from Amazon). For the high-ISO work, I would also consider Nikon D-300S (~$1500), and I am not sure what would be a reasonable lens there. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a very nice lens. I sometimes use it for auto interiors, and I've used it for room interiors as well. My landscape for the September PUG was shot with it. I believe that Robb said it was as sharp as the 14/2.8. I've read more than once that it's sharper than the A or K 15/3.5. It's

Re: OT{ Photochoping history +

2011-07-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-07-29 3:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: http://www.fourandsix.com/photo-tampering-history/ It seems that when the pendulum swings, it goes right on through the wall. The largely politically motivated tampering to deceive is unarguably bad (unarguable by *us* anyway), but that 2011 item

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I checked the Nikon D7000, D700, and Canon 7D. The D700 seems better but is over $2000. The other two have no real advantage over the K5 and the K can actually get to higher iso. Lenswise, the comparable N and C offerings in the 12-36 range are much more expensive. It does appear that the K5

Re: Spend someone else's mony

2011-07-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, the DA*16-50 was $900 at BH when in the cart. ;-) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I checked the Nikon D7000, D700, and Canon 7D.  The D700 seems better but is over $2000.  The other two have no real advantage over the K5 and the K can actually

Re: PAW81 - Rain again

2011-07-29 Thread DagT
Thanks frank, Christine, Paul and Dave :-) Home again I have updated the ordinary site as well. DagT http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/PAW.html Den 27. juli 2011 kl. 23.20 skrev frank theriault: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:18 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: Another one on Photo.net which

Re: PESO - Follow the Signs

2011-07-29 Thread Mark C
That's great! On 7/27/2011 6:41 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/07/follow-signs.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Two more angels

2011-07-29 Thread Mark C
I really like #1 and #4 - great shots. How was the London Street Photography Exhibit? I was planning to enter it but never got round to it. On 7/27/2011 6:43 PM, Bob W wrote: Some recent snaps - first 5 are new: http://www.web-options.com/Recent/ Not sure whether they're any good or whether

My First Camera

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
We've had numerous first camera threads over the years, and I've said that my first was a plastic 620-film box camera that I bought at Erler's camera store for two dollars. I remembered what it looked like, but couldn't recall the name. Well, I ran across a picture of it on the web -- or one

Re: My First Camera

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Looking at the pic again, I'm thinking it was my sister's birthday, September 22, 1958. There are leaves on the grass, so I doubt that it was spring. It was undoubtedly some kind of cool weather holiday, based on her dress. I know-- too much information:-). On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Paul

Re: OT: Something for the weekend

2011-07-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
That's great Bob! The problem with floating downstream on acid is the waterfall you KNOW is somewhere ahead. On Jul 29, 2011, at 02:47 , Bob W wrote: Relax, turn off your mind, float downstream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-pLBQ2D7k Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ah! as you see I got it to reply all- but I had to pull down a new little window next to the reply list' button... thanks for good instructions! ann On 7/29/2011 14:29, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-29 11:47 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: Just one more thing _ where is the button for Reply all

Re: OT - thunderbird email question

2011-07-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/29/2011 14:05, mike wilson wrote: On 29/07/2011 18:08, Ann Sanfedele wrote: ok thunderbirders - I'm enjoying it but but when I finish reading something I want to just hit a key once to go to the next mail without having to close the first when I finished reading and then opening the