Re: OT: Zoomable Milky Way

2012-03-29 Thread William Robb
On 29/03/2012 11:00 PM, David Mann wrote: Found this linked from a BBC News article. Hours of fun. http://djer.roe.ac.uk/vsa/vvv/iipmooviewer-2.0-beta/vvvgps5.html Hours of boredom perhaps Erosion is faster than this. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

Re: Guy With a Camera joke

2012-03-29 Thread William Robb
On 29/03/2012 12:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Models often complain about the "Guy With a Camera". He'll pretend to know (or likely actually thinks he does) photography, and will hire models not so much as an opportunity to get photos, but to see naked pretty women. When the models do the work T

RE: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > David Mann > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > > So everybody: start squirreling away images now so they can be > > discovered after your death and make somebody wealthy from book and > > exhibition d

OT: Zoomable Milky Way

2012-03-29 Thread David Mann
Found this linked from a BBC News article. Hours of fun. http://djer.roe.ac.uk/vsa/vvv/iipmooviewer-2.0-beta/vvvgps5.html Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abo

Re: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread David Mann
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > So everybody: start squirreling away images now so they can be > discovered after your death and make somebody wealthy from book and > exhibition deals. I prefer the plan of discovering some dead person's photos. That way I get to be the rich o

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread Miserere
steve harley wrote: > on 2012-03-29 18:01 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote > > I suppose the problem I have with that advice is that in fact it's > not advice as much as marketing. I wonder who photo.net's biggest > advertisers are if not Nikon or Canon? > > i think it's more a case of Phil Greens

Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
You can count on it, Bob! He's out there at 8:30 every morning -- perfect light and all. (There are also wild turkeys and white tail deer that like to hang out in the abutting wheat field early in the morning.) -- Walt On 3/29/2012 10:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Walt, You've got to get some

Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
I can see where it might be a smidge vexing to see all the photos of greenery while you're going through that. Here's hoping you'll get settled into warm-weather pattern soon. :-) -- Walt On 3/29/2012 10:17 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: It's been an extremely mild early spring here, too

Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt, You've got to get some shots of the horses in training around the track. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day > (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. > > A couple of shots m

Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It's been an extremely mild early spring here, too. Temps into the mid-twenties (low seventies fahrenheit) last week; I wore shorts and short-sleeved jerseys! Since then a real rollercoaster. A couple warm days, a couple cold days. And tomorrow a chance of snow flurries. :-( Still a mild winte

Re: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Frank! It's been the most beautiful early spring I can recall in my entire life. You should see the spring wheat fields -- they're so green they almost hurt your eyes on a sunny day. It was just a beautiful day to get out -- even if I hadn't got a single keeper all day, I'd have e

RE: GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow, those are beautiful, Walt! Sure is green down there. I'm surprised there's so much foliage this early in the spring. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert Sent: March 29, 20

GESO: Final pre-K20D photowalk

2012-03-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
Hi all, Just wanted to post a few shots I got with my K-x today -- the final day (hopefully) before my K20D arrives. A couple of shots may look familiar as they're slightly different takes on shots that I've taken before and sought to improve upon. Serendipitously enough, I ran into the gent

Re: Tele-Zoom Lens

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bipin and JC Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > Dan, I have the Tamron 75-300 LD and it is rather soft at the 200 to > 300mm end. I intend selling it off. Try and get the Sigma APO 70-300 $ > 160 used at KEH

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-29 18:01 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote I suppose the problem I have with that advice is that in fact it's not advice as much as marketing. I wonder who photo.net's biggest advertisers are if not Nikon or Canon? i think it's more a case of Phil Greenspun not really attending to his

Re: PESO hummingbird and flower

2012-03-29 Thread Larry Colen
On 3/29/2012 5:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That indeed a very cool photo. Imaginative and well-executed. Thank you Frank, and everyone else who looked and commented. Larry Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hi

RE: Guy With a Camera joke

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Problem is, Larry, there's too much truth in that statement for one not to take it seriously. That's not to say that it's not witty and humorous; it is. But it comes across as much more than a joke to me. I'd say it's more of a wry commentary. :-) cheers, frank "What can be asserted without

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Tom C wrote: >> That's fairly common advice.  In reality, it's probably not bad. >> >> On the one hand, if a person is going to buy a camera without doing >> much research, steering them towards the brands with the largest >> market share isn't a horrible idea.  If

RE: PESO 2012 - 047 - GDG

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's really lovely. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: "PAW Picture-A-Week project" , SeePhoto Talk , BAPhotoShooters BAPA , PDML List

RE: OT: A different style of Wedding Photo

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool. She looks like she could be a handful, but still kinda fun... :-) cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: PESO hummingbird and flower

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That indeed a very cool photo. Imaginative and well-executed. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO h

Re: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
So everybody: start squirreling away images now so they can be discovered after your death and make somebody wealthy from book and exhibition deals. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > > > http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2012/03/29/149607939/found-in-a-closet-a-photo-trove

RE: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow. That is incredible. Thanks so much for sharing that with us, Darren Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy Sent: March 29, 2012 3/29/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject

Re: PESO - Young Love

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thank you, Bulent, Walt and everyone else who commented or looked. I have to admit, I considered a rude caption or title myself but resisted the temptation. ;-) Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message ---

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I suppose the problem I have with that advice is that in fact it's not advice as much as marketing. I wonder who photo.net's biggest advertisers are if not Nikon or Canon? People think they are getting unbiased advice but in fact photo.net are appeasing their patrons. They give that advice not

RE: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Yes thank you for sharing this story. Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:24 PM To: Pentax-D

Re: Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cool. Thanks, Darren! On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > > > http://www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2012/03/29/149607939/found-in-a-closet-a-photo-trove-of-60s-icons > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to

Re: OT: Blurb discounts

2012-03-29 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: My son is about to publish an architecture book on Blurb and I was wondering in anyone on the list has a Blurb discount code they're willing to let him use? Thanks in advance. He could try these, but they expire on 31/3. http://www.retailmenot.com/view/blur

Re: OT: Blurb discounts

2012-03-29 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, wrote: > My son is about to publish an architecture book on Blurb and I was wondering > in anyone on the list has a Blurb discount code they're willing to let him > use? If he's buying in bulk, and soon: This is just a quick reminder that your Blurb savings exp

Re: PAW116 - Columns

2012-03-29 Thread DagT
Wow, thanks everyone! Bruce, Brian, Rick, knarf, Ken, Dan, Dave, Don, Larry and Darren :-) DagT Den 26. mars 2012 kl. 22:16 skrev Darren Addy: > "Nice" is far too inadequate to describe this image. I'd have to go > with "Superb"! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http:/

OT: Blurb discounts

2012-03-29 Thread kwaller
My son is about to publish an architecture book on Blurb and I was wondering in anyone on the list has a Blurb discount code they're willing to let him use? Thanks in advance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Another undiscovered photographer's trove of photos found...

2012-03-29 Thread Darren Addy
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Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > > On 3/29/2012 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> We've chatted about this before, and I opined that perhaps your K20D >> was out of spec. It's also possible that my K20D is magical.:-)  I >> doubt it though, although I think Walt believes it.

Re: PESO - Young Love

2012-03-29 Thread Bulent Celasun
>Either it's true love or he's showing her a splinter. Well... It reminds me "something else". Am I normal? (Lovely moment perfectly captured, by the way). Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/ph

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Apple tells you what is *supported* according to their testing. The > physical capabilities might be greater but they're not actually > supported insofar as Apple's testing, service and repair is concerned. > Engineering often builds in m

Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

2012-03-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 3/29/2012 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: We've chatted about this before, and I opined that perhaps your K20D was out of spec. It's also possible that my K20D is magical.:-) I doubt it though, although I think Walt believes it.;-) All I know is that the Pentax Faerie only appears to those who b

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-29 12:41 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote i have a lot of experience correlating performance with RAM upgrades, and i join a lot of others in advising that RAM is usually the best price/performance upgrade you can do Whole system performance is much more important than just RAM size. the per

Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

2012-03-29 Thread Larry Colen
On 3/29/2012 12:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Interesting, I found the noise characteristic of my K20 horrible. At least in color. Lots of blue speckles. In black and white it just looke

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, steve harley wrote: >>> >> >>> that's exactly what's weird about it; they support 16 GB but for some reason >>> Apple doesn't tell you; that's one

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-29 12:54 Larry Colen wrote *Apple officially supports 4 GB of RAM, but third-parties have been able to upgrade the system to 6 GB of RAM using one 2 GB and one 4 GB memory module. Mine currently has 3GB of RAM, and I thought it was maxed out. It has definitely been running into per

Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> There are two important factors to this noise being lower than you expected. > > Bruce, I'm going to have to steal these hints for my notes on low light > photography.: > >> >> The first

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, steve harley wrote: >> > >> that's exactly what's weird about it; they support 16 GB but for some reason >> Apple doesn't tell you; that's one reason i use everymac.com to check specs >> on Macs > > Appl

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM, steve harley wrote: > not sure what you mean by "green" — user CPU%? free RAM? free RAM >> I wouldn't worry too much about memory, really. The MBA13" does just >> fine with Lr4 and 4G RAM. > > because that machine can't be upgraded, you'll never know what it mig

Guy With a Camera joke

2012-03-29 Thread Larry Colen
Models often complain about the "Guy With a Camera". He'll pretend to know (or likely actually thinks he does) photography, and will hire models not so much as an opportunity to get photos, but to see naked pretty women. When the models do the work TFF/TFP, what they get is so bad it's not usab

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread steve harley
on 2012-03-29 24:37 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I arrived home this evening and fired up my MBP 13", dropped a DVD in to rip (want to watch it on the iPad, so I rip them into an MP4 file) with WinX Ripper for Mac and started the ripping process. I did my accounting, started Lightroom 4 and imported a

RE: Tele-Zoom Lens

2012-03-29 Thread JC O'Connell
If you can live with manual focus, the tokina at-x 100-300/4 lens is outstanding and there is an "A" version of it. FF too. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin

Tele-Zoom Lens

2012-03-29 Thread Bipin Gupta
Dan, I have the Tamron 75-300 LD and it is rather soft at the 200 to 300mm end. I intend selling it off. Try and get the Sigma APO 70-300 $ 160 used at KEH EX+ grade, which is better. I have taken test shots from my neighbor's lens and it is far better than the Tamron. The Pentax SMC DAL 50-200 is

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread Tom C
> That's fairly common advice.  In reality, it's probably not bad. > > On the one hand, if a person is going to buy a camera without doing > much research, steering them towards the brands with the largest > market share isn't a horrible idea.  If later, they go looking for > books, articles or acc

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Tim Bray
That’s weird... if I did the same things (ripping while running that assortment of software) I’d be seeing a lot of big pauses and the occasional pinwheel. Hm, I usually also have Eclipse running and 3 browsers with a total of 100 or so tabs... -T On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorg

Re: PESO hummingbird and flower

2012-03-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cute! On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > A friend came over to do a photo shoot today, this was one of the more fun > ones: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7025340751/in/set-72157629326535382/ > > C&C always welcome. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent fro

Re: PESO 2012 - 047 - GDG

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is an excellent image, with pleasing colors and effective composition. You must have an expensive camera to go with that great lens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I've been enjoying the Nokton 50mm

Re: OT -- Really annoying Photo.net behavior

2012-03-29 Thread George Sinos
That's fairly common advice. In reality, it's probably not bad. On the one hand, if a person is going to buy a camera without doing much research, steering them towards the brands with the largest market share isn't a horrible idea. If later, they go looking for books, articles or accessories, t

Re: PESO hummingbird and flower

2012-03-29 Thread David J Brooks
Very imaginative Dave On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > A friend came over to do a photo shoot today, this was one of the more fun > ones: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7025340751/in/set-72157629326535382/ > > C&C always welcome. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.c

Re: GFM 2012

2012-03-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: > I'd love to, but it's always on a bad date for me, so I won't make it this > year, once again.  However, those of you who do make it will appreciate my > absence.  My brother tells me my snoring sounds scarily like an alien > autopsy. Every

Re: Mac iPhoto

2012-03-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I called and told him you would like his mailing address and all I got back > was a dial tone.(?) Thats all i need for tracking. One ring or two.:-) Dave > > Jack. > > > > - Original Message - > From: David J Brooks > To: Pentax-Disc

PESO 2012 - 047 - GDG

2012-03-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've been enjoying the Nokton 50mm lens so much the past week, I've been neglecting my 40mm lens. I just love this focal length on an APS-C format camera! http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6880587266/lightbox or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6880587266/ There are a few others in

Advice re: Tele-Zoom Lens

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
For better or worse (until I can save up for a K-5, which will be a while), I've decided that my standard camera "kit" will be the K-r with the SMC PENTAX-DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-135mm ED AL [IF] DC WR lens. Any comments on the limitations of that combination will be appreciated. I do, however, need a l

OT: A different style of Wedding Photo

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/best-wedding-picture-ever/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the direct

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh, if you're running a VM like that, you need a MacBook Pro with 8G for sure. The VMs are huge RAM and cpu hogs. Never know. Maybe the next gen MBAs will have 8G. G On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:24 AM, David Mann wrote: > On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> I don't know why th

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread David Mann
On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I don't know why that would be so taxing. I often have both FireFox > and Safari running side by side ... I should come clean, I do run more than just two browsers. I tend to run in one of two modes. "Working" involves the two browsers plu

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM, David Mann wrote: > On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> It's right there in Processor and Memory. All current MBPs support up to 8G. > > I am a bit curious about that.  Mine is getting fairly old and happily > supports 4 which I think was it

Re: If you use Lightroom and need a new MacBook

2012-03-29 Thread David Mann
On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > It's right there in Processor and Memory. All current MBPs support up to 8G. I am a bit curious about that. Mine is getting fairly old and happily supports 4 which I think was its maximum specified. I'd have thought that the latest ones s