RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't do that! JCO -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) On Tue, 21

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Christian a écrit : William Robb wrote on 9/21/2004, 12:07 PM: > > LX, and Super Program for sure. It's done via a window that projects > a view of the aperture ring into the finder. > > William Robb > > LX and MX for sure. Super Program does not have a little window. At

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
ply to them. I usually find this to be blissful. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Antonio" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) Except reliability also means consistency - if it never

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
And the fisrt equiped: the KX ! The K2 DMD has this feature, not the original K2

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread ernreed2
> - Original Message - > From: "Nick Clark" > Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the > lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > > > > I don't know of any camera that does give a readout of aperture > with

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Jim Apilado
K2DMD as well. Jim A. > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:07:01 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist > D AE mode

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Mat Maessen
The Super Program gives you aperture readout in the digital indicator of the viewfinder, but only with the lens set to the A setting. And it's only accurate on a constant-aperture lens. But it is there. -Mat

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > > Thats the only LX finder I don't have. > > You are missing one?? *stunned*. Hey, you think I am happy about it? William Robb

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > So, how do Canon and Nikon DSLR's work. Do they work with pre-progam-AE > lenses? Canon integrated DSLR's

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Malcolm Smith
William Robb wrote: > Thats the only LX finder I don't have. You are missing one?? *stunned*. Malcolm

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Jens Bladt
*ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > Hi Bill, > >

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 9/21/2004, 12:07 PM: > > LX, and Super Program for sure. It's done via a window that projects > a view of the aperture ring into the finder. > > William Robb > > LX and MX for sure. Super Program does not have a little window. At least mine didn't. -- Christia

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bill, The LX doesn't do that with all finders. The FA-2 finder doesn't allow for that feature. But is that really a readout ... not wanting to split hairs here, but just curious about how the terminology may be defined. I see a true readout as something different. Shel > From: William Rob

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Nick Clark" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > I don't know of any camera that does give a readout of aperture with K/M lenses, even if it does have the apertur

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
But that's not exactly a "readout" in the sense that Nick and Rob probably meant. It's just a reflection of the aperture setting from the lens barrel. At least two of the LX finders had the same feature. Shel > From: Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I do. I'm not sure which. But I'm sure I

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Jens Bladt
e- Fra: Nick Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. september 2004 17:32 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) I don't know of any camera that does give a readout of aperture with K/M lens

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-21 Thread Nick Clark
I don't know of any camera that does give a readout of aperture with K/M lenses, even if it does have the aperture simulator lever. The same is true for A lense off the A setting. Nick -Original Message- From: "William Robb"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On the istD and a few of the film

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "James" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > > has anyone looked at the new nickon lenses? they don't have an aperture ring at all, what about cannon? minolta

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-20 Thread James
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:34:35 -0600, William Robb wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "Antonio" >Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the >lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > > >> Ahhh, I see. So the lever on a

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Antonio" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > Ahhh, I see. So the lever on a K/M lense is not exactly the same as the > lever I see on my A lenses? The levers on the

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Sep 2004 at 9:26, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > While all this ranting and raving has been going on this morning, I was > surfing the digicam review sites, and dropped in a Steve's place. > > Steve has a list of digital cameras he feels are "the best." ... "the > best in terms of resolution, im

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Sep 2004 at 14:09, John Forbes wrote: > Yes, but there is no need to set the aperture on the lens when you can set it > on the camera (I'm talking about A and later lenses). Why provide two ways to > do something? It just increases cost and complexity. And how many metering modes and ex

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Sep 2004 at 11:17, John C. O'Connell wrote: > Come on dude, > > The only reason I would buy the *istD is DIGITAL CAPTURE > technology, not program or shutter preferred auto modes > or AF. I don't/won't use those. The major expense of the camera is > digital > capture and using a K/M lens o

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have abandoned this discussion as well. It must really suck to be so angry about a camera. Paul On Sep 19, 2004, at 12:52 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Jens Bladt
300mm, Manfrotto tripod -and a lot of software. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. september 2004 21:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: *ist series support for se

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Green button mode aint as good as a true AE mode > period. See my last post, I explained why. Yes JC, but is it good enough? Noone said it's true Av and if they did, their problem. Is this mode good enough for you? Cause it's not going to get any bett

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Jens Bladt
04 17:07 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) - Original Message - From: "Andrew Bingham" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mo

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Jens Bladt
ptember 2004 15:10 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) Jens wrote, inter alia: > The problem as I see it, is that Pentax "ist-series" doesn't support AE > when setting the aperure

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Graywolf
All Pentax lenses starting with the "A" series have been designed so that moving the stopdown lever a precise linear distance changes the f-stop one stop, so cameras designed to use those lenses can set the aperture that way. K and M lenses do not have calibrated linear movement so used a feedb

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Antonio
Good question. A. On 19/9/04 6:47 pm, "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who is Peter?

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
riginal Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Conn

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
nt: Sunday, September 19, 2004 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) - Original Message - From: "Antonio" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was:

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > > NO, I have not used an *istD. Then your pronouncements about the camera's operation are based on

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Antonio" Subject: Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens(was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > Except reliability also means consistency - if it never works then it is > 100% consistent and hence reliable, whichh

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) JC, Have you used the istD with a pre A lens for anything other than a bitch about it in a camera store? The an

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
While all this ranting and raving has been going on this morning, I was surfing the digicam review sites, and dropped in a Steve's place. Steve has a list of digital cameras he feels are "the best." ... "the best in terms of resolution, image quality and overall bang for the buck. " Listed in t

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses) > I stated the FACT, not an opinion. The major expense > of the *istD is the digital capture. The sensor &g

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Antonio
Except reliability also means consistency - if it never works then it is 100% consistent and hence reliable, whichh I wuold imagine was Peters spin on things. A. On 19/9/04 6:10 pm, "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Regarding the "reliablility" factor, HAVING a K/M lens cam/pos

RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
> > Regarding the "reliablility" factor, HAVING a K/M lens cam/postional > sensor is far more reliable than removing it altogether. Really? William Robb Yes, at least it would work for a long while. Without it at all, it NEVER works. No open aperture AE with K/M lenses

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Antonio
Now I am getting a little confused. So there must be a lever on the ist for it to set the apeture on the lens, correct? A. On 19/9/04 3:09 pm, "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but there is no need to set the aperture on the lens when you can set > it on the camera (I'm talking ab

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread John Forbes
Jens wrote, inter alia: The problem as I see it, is that Pentax "ist-series" doesn't support AE when setting the aperure on the lens. That actually goes for A, and FA lenses too! Yes, but there is no need to set the aperture on the lens when you can set it on the camera (I'm talking about A and

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread ernreed2
Jens said: > I think Pentax has shown odd or inconsistante policies for camera settings: > > The MZ-S does not allow for setting the aperture from the camera body, only > on the lens. > Pentax ist, *ist D and *ist Ds (the ist series) do not support setting the > aperture on the lens. Because these

Re: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K & M lenses)

2004-09-19 Thread Jens Bladt
I think Pentax has shown odd or inconsistante policies for camera settings: The MZ-S does not allow for setting the aperture from the camera body, only on the lens. Pentax ist, *ist D and *ist Ds (the ist series) do not support setting the aperture on the lens. Because these bodies do not have an