Re: FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 vs. FA 28-105/4-5.6

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Joe. I think I'll go for the faster lens. Power zoom isn't important to me. I'm a zoom neophyte. I've been shooting with manual focus primes for thirty years and will continue in that vein, but I thought I ought to have an autofocus zoom for snapshots and lazy day walkarounds. Paul Joe Wile

RE: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6

2003-07-15 Thread Amita Guha
Very true. I recently used my 28-70mm to shoot fireworks, and because of the flexibility, my shots came out a lot better than they would have if I'd been stuck trying to swap primes, with limited time, in the dark. > -Original Message- > From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark, I have the Pentax auto tube set, two third party auto tube >sets, and the original Pentax "non auto" set. The last is the one >I like the best for macro shots. No fiddling with a dof button. >It also contains, AFAIK, the shortest tube Pentax made

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (nowabit long))

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Chan
They all do that, Alan, especially when focused close. They are excellent in the 80-135mm range, increasingly mediocre after that unless focused at infinity and stopped down more than one stop. Actually I shot them at near infinity. But one stop down, the improvement was dramatic. It made me wonde

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6

2003-07-13 Thread Keith Whaley
Just a few thoughts on zoom photography in general... I have just recently "discovered" the ease a small zoom gives me when I'm on vacation, and the help in framing it provides. As I get older, while I still love walking among the rocks and along the seashore, camera at the ready, I am not as much

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-13 Thread Mark Roberts
"whickersworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan Chan wrote: > >> My friend's Nikkor AF 80-200/2.8D sucked when shooting at >> 200/2.8. Everything was diffused. Didn't know what's wrong. >They all do that, Alan, especially when focused close. The FA*80-200/2.8 performs wonderfully wide open, even

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (nowabit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
That's very true indeed, but we started out discussing sharpness only. In fact, I found a lot of zooms which perform well stopped down at infinity. Many of these are weak at close range and/or wide open, though. If a manufacturer wants to look good on a lens test report, they just optimize for

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Mark wrote: Bit of a "straw man" argument there, since the A 3.5 f2.8 has been singled out by several users (you in particular) as a dog. REPLY: Not really. I was trying to illustrate my opinion that todays good zoom are equally good or better than yesterdays primes. The A 35/2.8 is fairly typ

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Frank wrote: Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. REPLY: I didn't actually say that. That was something I quoted. Pål

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ(now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Bo-Ming Tong
frank theriault wrote: Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. They're bigger, heavier, slower, more complicated, take more time

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Herb Chong
le here who have the same lens. Herb - Original Message - From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:00 Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) >

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Steve Larson
ent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) > right on all counts, but my sharpest lens is my FA 50mm macro but only very slightly behind it is my FA* 80-200. my FA* 24 and my FA 24-90 are n

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Herb Chong
ent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 06:30 Subject: Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long)) > Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? > > Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread frank theriault
Well, there has to be some trade-off, doesn't there? Even if we take Pal's original statement as true ("today's best zooms are every bit as good as primes"), a zoom is going to exact some penalty on it's user. They're bigger, heavier, slower, more complicated, take more time to use (since you hav

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
It is being said that todays best zooms are every bit as good as primes. You can find it even in several photo books like the ones by John Shaw (who in earlier books only recommended primes), Charles Campbell etc. I would modified it to todays best zooms are better than yesterdays primes and th

Re: Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now abit long))

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
There are still "Hi-Fi" magazines around? Well I'll be darned! If you insist! :-) regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Zooms vs. primes (WAS: Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long))

2003-07-11 Thread Pål Jensen
Thank you Joseph. Your tests cured my zoom-phobia. I have always thought that the since 28-105 PZ has an excellent reputation as a very sharp lens but it still wasn't sharp enough when compared to any of my primes, I have to stick with prime lenses only. Turns out I was very wrong indeed. REPLY:

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long)

2003-07-10 Thread Joseph Tainter
"I will give that Tokina 28-80/2.8 a closer look." The Tokina is more prone to flare than a corresponding Pentax. I rarely shoot into the sun, so for me this is not a problem. I did notice one weakness with the Tokina, and did some rigorous testing to track it down. I will post about it soon, w

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ

2003-07-10 Thread Alan Chan
But that is one lens, in particular, where there seems to be a lot of sample variation. So to Pentax every lens that I have come accross since last October... regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Cassino
At 11:27 AM 7/9/2003 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had 2 samples of these lens, which is the only zoom lens I have at the moment, they couldn't be both bad I suppose, but I always find them lacking the "snap" of my prime lenses. I have a 28-105 f4 - 5.6 as well. I used it last spring as m

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ (now a bit long)

2003-07-09 Thread cyberstudio
> I'll repost below the result of some lens tests I did that > included the > PZ 28-105. I have two of these and used them as my basic zoom for > a > while. Then I discovered how much sharper is the Tokina 28-80 > f2.8, so > it is now my basic zoom. Thank you Joseph. Your tests cured my zoom

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ

2003-07-09 Thread Alan Chan
Alan, are there already owner reports about this lens? What about flare? - that is, by the SMC standards, from someone who's actually seen more than Canon glas... Not exactly any report, but a few asian users of this lens said that lens was pretty sharp even wide open, and they didn't expect

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ

2003-07-09 Thread Alan Chan
Alan, thank you for your quick reply and comment. If I go for that route, I would gladly pay extra for the FA*28-70/2.8. I used to have that lens but I sold it because it was too big (though not too heavy for such a big lens) and consume too much space in my camera bag. But as Caveman has pointed o

Re: Let's talk about the FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ

2003-07-09 Thread cyberstudio
> I have never had this powerzoom and know many people have prasied > this lens. > However, from what I read in an Australian magazine many years > ago, they > specifically said the sharpness was pretty low at the long end. > They wren't > impressed by this lens and didn't rate it that well.

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-21 Thread Brad Dobo
2002 5:00 PM Subject: Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF > > Hallo, > > could you give a short summery. It is hard to get in Germany the Pop Photo > > and the test is not on the web. > > Thanks > > Rüdiger > > > > From Popular Photography, September 2002: > > Actu

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-21 Thread Joseph Tainter
Rüdiger, the new 28-105 is tested in the current issue - September. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-20 Thread John Glover
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF > How much can I expect to pay for the 28-105 powerzoom model used? > (And does anyone have one for sale or trade?) It looks like B&H still > has the powerzoom model new -

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-20 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo, in which issue of Pop Photo is the test of the new 3.2-4.5 28-105? BTW, in Germany you can have this lens in black an silver. 6 month after the introduction of the silver version can the black version. Regards Rüdiger - >Joe, I have the Pop Photo lens tests of both. The old FA Power Zoom

Re: 28-105/4-5.6

2002-08-20 Thread Cmlillja55
Joe, there might be a power zoom model at KEH. There's usually one or two. Good Luck, Chris L. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-20 Thread Joe Wilensky
B&H and $190 at Adorama. Joe >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:26:48 -0600 >From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF > >Joe, I have the Pop Photo lens tests of both. The old FA Power Zoom may >be just slightly sharper overall, but the differenc

Re: 28-105/4-5.6 IF

2002-08-20 Thread Joseph Tainter
Joe, I have the Pop Photo lens tests of both. The old FA Power Zoom may be just slightly sharper overall, but the difference is so small that you would be hard put to notice. Go by other considerations: - the old PZ will balance nicely on your PZ-1 and gives you power zoom functions, if you need

RE: Pentax 28-105 4 5.6 Power Zoom Auto Focus lens

2002-06-07 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore
or two. (The digital milieu isn't exactly a repository of permanence.) I recommend you buy the zoom! Rob >Hi All, > >I was wondering if anybody has used this lens (Pentax 28-105 4 5.6 >Power >Zoom Auto Focus lens) or could comment on it. I have a friend >who knows a &

Re: WTB: FA 28-105/4-5.6

2002-05-28 Thread Brendan
Want a sigma 28-105 F2.8-4, real cheap only $100 and it's yours :-) --- Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The older version. With the success of my previous > WTB posting, I thought > I'd try here again before committing elsewhere. > Thanks in advance, > jerome > - > This m

WTB: FA 28-105/4-5.6

2002-05-28 Thread Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes
The older version. With the success of my previous WTB posting, I thought I'd try here again before committing elsewhere. Thanks in advance, jerome - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ build quality?

2002-05-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Hi! I plan to buy old, good SMC FA 28-105 Powerzoom. Unfortunately I have used FA 28-80/3.5-4.7 PZ, which build quality was... erghhh not so good (loose zoom ring etc). What about build quality of this 28-105? Is it better? Can users of it confirm that it is ok after years of use? Thanks! -- Bes

Re: Pentax 28-105/4-5.6 Power Zoom

2001-01-31 Thread John Francis
John Glover wrote: > > Robert, > > I just got a used one a few days ago, they are not that difficult to find but you >pay a premium for them, even used. I'd guess they are discontinued, since Pentax is >now selling the rebadged Tamron 28-105's. did you get this off of Pentax's web site >abo

Re: Pentax 28-105/4-5.6 Power Zoom

2001-01-30 Thread John Glover
ses still being current? John - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Pentax 28-105/4-5.6 Power Zoom > According to Pentax, this is still a current lens. Does anyone know if it > has been discon

Pentax 28-105/4-5.6 Power Zoom

2001-01-29 Thread Joseph Tainter
You're right, it's the best there is. Therefore it's probably discontinued. Frankly, I have been expecting Pentax to discontinue this lens. It appeals mainly to serious users, and Pentax has the Tamron rebadge for other (most?) buyers. Plus the Power Zoom has - let's not mince words - power zoom.

Pentax 28-105/4-5.6 Power Zoom

2001-01-29 Thread RDJ92807
According to Pentax, this is still a current lens. Does anyone know if it has been discontinued? Many retailers no longer seem to have it in stockyet its the best of the 28-105s! Any information out there? Robert James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe,

Re: FA 28-105/4 - 5.6 Power Zoom ?

2001-01-12 Thread ToddEStan
At 02:16 PM 1/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >2) If I set the aperture at 5.6 or 8, will the aperture remain constant through out the zoom's range (28-105)? > Depends, if you set the aperture via the aperture ring to 5.6, it will only be at F5.6 at 28mm, and one stop less at 105mm (F8). All focal len

FA 28-105/4 - 5.6 Power Zoom ?

2001-01-11 Thread Frank Knapik
Three questions about the Pentax 28-105/4 - 5.6 Power Zoom: 1) Is this lens quick to focus in indoor lighting situations such as a wedding reception? 2) If I set the aperture at 5.6 or 8, will the aperture remain constant through out the zoom's range (28-105)? 3) The photodo.com revi