Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 13.04.14 01:18, schrieb Paul Stenquist: >> 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it’s a bit smaller than >> a Nikon D4. > > Just received Ricoh Germany's newsletter with all the glorious details of the > new gem - pict

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 13.04.14 01:18, schrieb Paul Stenquist: 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it’s a bit smaller than a Nikon D4. Just received Ricoh Germany's newsletter with all the glorious details of the new gem - pictures, specs and all. I hate them! Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher -

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-14 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Steve Cottrell : On 13/4/14, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: I expect you're going to have to buy a new hat before that happens. Funny you should mention that Something along these lines, presumably? http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/ -- Cheers B

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/4/14, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: >I thought you were adopting the Ricoh exclusion clause (ie. any full >frame camera will be a Ricoh, not a true Pentax, therefore the >original premise is null and void). As long as it says Pentax on the front, it's a Pentax in my book.

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/4/14, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >I expect you're going to have to buy a new hat before that happens. Funny you should mention that -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
more often with the passing of every year. > > Paul > > >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" >> >> Subject: Re: 645Z specs >> >> >>&g

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
--- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" > Subject: Re: 645Z specs > > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? > > . To be able to use existing full-frame lenses > . To have access to smaller/lighter (and M

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Ken Waller
;35mm' lenses that would be hard/impossible to replicate in medium format if I went to medium format. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: 645Z specs Paul Stenquist wrote: Why would a

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/13/2014 2:06 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/4/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: ? To be able to use existing full-frame lenses ? To have access to smaller/lighter (and Med format) lenses ? To be able to use lenses for the full-frame on both full-frame and APS-C bodies ? To av

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread John Sessoms
No, but I could use my FA lenses until Ricoh came out with "full frame" lenses. On 4/13/2014 8:51 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Can't use all the Pentax APS-C lenses on 24 x 36 anyway. Pentax doesn't have a state of the art lens line for "full frame." Paul via phone On Apr 13, 2014, at 8:14 AM,

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Steve Cottrell : On 13/4/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: ? To be able to use existing full-frame lenses ? To have access to smaller/lighter (and Med format) lenses ? To be able to use lenses for the full-frame on both full-frame and APS-C bodies ? To avoid needing to bu

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Talking about price, I didn't see mentioned 645Z's: around $8500. Alex On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Paul Stenquist : > >> 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it?s a bit smaller >> than a Nikon D4. Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? > > > >

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm wrong. No in body stabilization. But some menses offer it. Only 16 dedicated lenses are available, but that's still a substantial number. Frame rate is 3 GPS. Enough for me. Paul via phone > On Apr 13, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > 645Z has in body image stabilization and mo

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
645Z has in body image stabilization and more than 30 autofocus lenses available.I believe the frame rate was substantial as well but don't have time to look now. APS-C is a great option, and 24 x 36 doesn't appear to be enough of an upgrade for me. Others of course will feel differently. Paul

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/13/2014 9:06 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: To watch me dine on cloth. Is hat cloth? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Boris Liberman
I agree with everything that you said, Mark. I could only add that personally I prefer wide angle to tele, and for me to shoot K/A 24/2.8 on FF body would be far easier (both in terms of size/weight and in terms of price) than to shoot 16/2.8 (probably from some big zoom lens) on APS-C. Obvio

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/4/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >? To be able to use existing full-frame lenses >? To have access to smaller/lighter (and Med format) lenses >? To be able to use lenses for the full-frame on both full-frame and >APS-C bodies >? To avoid needing to buy expensive full-frame gl

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread P.J. Alling
On 4/13/2014 1:09 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? • To be able to use existing full-frame lenses • To have access to smaller/lighter (and Med format) lenses • To be able to use lenses for the full-frame on both full-frame and APS-C bodies •

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Mark Roberts
>Paul Stenquist wrote: > >Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? • To be able to use existing full-frame lenses • To have access to smaller/lighter (and Med format) lenses • To be able to use lenses for the full-frame on both full-frame and APS-C bodies • To avoid needing to buy expensive full-f

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, you see, I cannot agree or disagree with your statement about appeal of bigger sensors (penile and Leican aspects aside), for it is too general for me to able to reason about it. In my opinion it very much depends on the specific case. It very well may be that in Israel and in Detroit people

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
The fashionable appeal of sensors of a certain size seems to be wearing thin. While a bigger sensor has had a certain cache in the past, like the Leica dot or a large penis, it seems to be fading. And I believe Pentax is currently selling as many K-3s as they can manufacture — although I have no

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Boris Liberman
I agree, that in the hands of capable photographer K-3 with DA* 16-50 is probably 95% as good as 6D with 24-70/2.8L if seriously lighter and somewhat smaller. However, it is not the opinion of knowledgeable photographer such as you, Paul, that matters (no disrespect here). In order for K-3 to compe

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
But I suspect that the K-3 with Pentax DA* lenses can outperform the 6D in most respects. Or at the very least, it’s roughly equivalent. Pentax is still a niche marketer. If they can succeed with the K-3 and the 645Z, they may well be at the limits of their current capacity. I’d hate to see them

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed, you're right, Paul. I should point out that Pentax 645Z would compete with the Nikon D4 or Canon 1Dx (or whatever the top models they have out there), which means prices in excess of USD 5,000. Pentax K-3 competes with Nikon D7100 and/or Canon 70D or should they introduce replacements for

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Can't use all the Pentax APS-C lenses on 24 x 36 anyway. Pentax doesn't have a state of the art lens line for "full frame." Paul via phone > On Apr 13, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it’s a bit smaller

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it’s a bit smaller than a >Nikon D4. Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? So they can use the same lenses on their full-frame and their APS-C cameras? And not buy another entire set of lenses? -- Mark Roberts - Pho

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
The 645Z too. :-) Paul via phone > On Apr 13, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > That's a valid point. Although I expect the 656z to be price competitive with > the best 24 x 36 cameras. > > Paul via phone > >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: >> >> Quoting Paul

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's a valid point. Although I expect the 656z to be price competitive with the best 24 x 36 cameras. Paul via phone > On Apr 13, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > > Quoting Paul Stenquist : > >> 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it?s a bit smaller than >> a Niko

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-12 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Stenquist : 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it?s a bit smaller than a Nikon D4. Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? Well, I don't, but price is one reason that people still want one. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters We

Re: 645Z specs

2014-04-12 Thread Mark C
This does seem like a very impressive tool. Earlier today I stumbled upon the announcement that the full line of 645 FA lenses are also now being sold in the US - taking the number of new 645 AF lenses sold in the US from 3 to 16. http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/fa-series-645-lenses-to-be-sol

645Z specs

2014-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it’s a bit smaller than a Nikon D4. Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? This would seem to be Pentax/Ricoh's “full frame” answer: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-645z-specifications-leaked.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM