etn ... but I notice no mention of the SMELL. That eau de fixer that stayed in
etn the nose for hours and took the joy right out of the next meal.
Fix in NaCl as Talbot did, or use non-smelling fixer (yes there are
such), use coffee developers and it will bring the joy back - nothing
like
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/20 Wed AM 12:41:40 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
For me it's always about
doing things the easy way - I take pride in the skills I have as well as
the craft of photography.
I do hope
This is the sculpture that I want to photograph:
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/sunbather.html
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist
I thought about your shot while I was out for my morning walk on this
lovely spring day. The classic way to accomplish this on film (or
Hmmm. Tough one. I see the cluttered background as the main problem. If I were
to shoot an angle like that seen in your digipic, I might try to shoot it at
night with two flash units carefully aimed and diffused. You'd probably get
random lights in the background from the houses, but that might
Tks Tom ...
I don't own a flash, and don't know how to use one. I'll have to pass on
that suggestion ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Tom Reese
Shel Belinkoff asked:
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how
does one do it with color? For example,
LOL Yes, there is a missing not in there. Good catch ;-))
Shel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For me it's always about
doing things the easy way - I take pride in the skills I have as well as
the craft of photography.
I do
Ah, but where does that not go? Before always, or after about ?
Shel Belinkoff mused:
LOL Yes, there is a missing not in there. Good catch ;-))
Shel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For me it's always about
doing
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
This is the sculpture that I want to photograph:
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/sunbather.html
Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best ones.
Have you considered taking a large flashlight
if you don't like doing it in Photoshop, shoot 3 BW frames through
R, G and B filters. you'll get your channels on your beloved TriX, and
you'll be able to combine it back into color with as much control as you
like, bathing in the (ferro)cyanide.
or take three exposures of the same frame of the
background.
Just 2 cents worth from a repair guy/wannabe photographer.
Don
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From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:37 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
This is the sculpture
In the same situation I might be tempted to add light to the artwork
with a flash, but that might not be the effect you want.
S
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how does one
do it with color? For example, there's a piece of artwork that I'd
Bob,
And what was America's mommy nation?
John
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:38:22 -0700, Bob Blakely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh God! Not the old, British unnecessary u thing again. Next you'll be
trying to get us infected with your mommy nation's national dyslexia,
insisting that it's not
At 00:19 2005.04.19 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:37:37 -0700
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how does one
do it
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:38:22 -0700, Bob Blakely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with lots of snips inbetween
unnecessary mommy unnecessary! While wimmin! especially immigrants
sorry pill
You were saying??
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Email sent from www.ntlworld.com
Of course with BW you have the option of colored filters to selectively
alter the light. With color, it's tough to exercise a lot of control in
camera. More light on the rusted art with a reflector or diffused flash
would help. With negative film a bit of overexposure might help as
well. But
Hi Paul,
That's the thing ... it's easy to do in Photoshop, but I'd like to find a
way to do it outside of Photoshop, ideally using natural light, and making
it happen with film choice, exposure, processing, and so on.
Thanks for your suggestion about exposure ... 'tween you and Bob and a
Shel Belinkoff asked:
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how
does one do it with color? For example, there's a piece of artwork
that I'd like to photograph. It's rusted metal and the background
is green grass. I'd like to photograph it in such a way that the
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
going to approach this. After all, photographers did things like this for
years without Photoshop.
Can you keep us posted? I am very interested. I don't follow PAWs and
PESOs; that's my problem, not yours, but thought to let you know in
case you
Hi Shel,
I thought about your shot while I was out for my morning walk on this
lovely spring day. The classic way to accomplish this on film (or
digital for that matter) is to shoot the scene when backlit using
large reflectors to light the sculpture. The sun should be off to one
side or the
I'm going to be quite close to the sculpture this afternoon, and I may just
bop over there and grab a couple of shots with the digi so I can show you
the setup. It's probably not quite what you think it is, as the artwork
lays on the ground, unlike most sculptures that are upright. The location
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Production assistants? LOL, I'd probably have to recruit some.
Frantisek, any recommendations from your latest interview round?
Kostas ;-)
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
I've gotten several responses by private mail suggesting Photoshop sigh.
That's easy enuf to do, and I can think of several ways to accomplish
that.
I guess with color film, unless when uses tricky
Wow! That is so cool ... Too bad they are so spendy. I'd hate to think
what they's cost for a 49mm or 58mm size.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: William Robb
A notch filter is a narrow band rejection filter. They reject a certain
frequency while passing all others.
Sadly, they are
Of course, there's a small problem, that being whatever is photographed on
film would have to be scanned and posted here, which may negate or change
that which was originally captured on film. Anyway, I'm heading over to
the sculpture this afternoon to make some preliminary shots on the digi,
and
On 4/19/05, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh God! Not the old, British unnecessary u thing again.
No, it's that English Proper Spelling Thing.
Next you'll be
trying to get us infected with your mommy nation's national dyslexia,
insisting that it's not theater, but theatre
Correct.
,
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, frank theriault wrote:
Actually, I think we should abolish vowels.
Try arabic, I am told there are no vowels there.
Kostas
Production assistants? LOL, I'd probably have to recruit some.
KK Frantisek, any recommendations from your latest interview round?
KK Kostas ;-)
LOL
Best is just a photographer girlfriend/boyfriend/s.o. :)
Good light!
fra
Hi Shel,
apart from control of the light on location (which could be your best
bet), these things can alter colour tonal relationship:
* cross processing
* bleach bypass during C41 processing and fixing in BW fixer
(increases contrast and desaturates colours - for a computer simulated
bleach
At 3:26 PM +0100 4/19/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, frank theriault wrote:
Actually, I think we should abolish vowels.
Try arabic, I am told there are no vowels there.
Kostas
Now, pay attention...
A Plan for the Improvement of English
Spelling
Alan P. Hayes mused:
A Plan for the Improvement of English
Spelling
by Mark Twain
[. . .]
You beat me to it!
frank theriault mused:
I'm gonna work on this. I think I could have a winner here (I mean, a
wnnr hr LOL)
ITYM wnr hr. HTH. HAND.
On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Thanks for your suggestion about exposure ... 'tween you and Bob and a
comment or two made by another person off list, I think I know how I'm
going to approach this. After all, photographers did things like this
for
years without Photoshop.
...
You must be slow today! That never happens. Twain is wonderful. How
many people manage to stay funny for over a hundred years?
Orthographic reform is a loser, but I think the phenomenon
represented by the following passage is worthy of further
development. http://typographi.com/000687.php
By
Message -
From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: A question for color film users
Oh God! Not the old, British unnecessary u thing again. Next you'll be
trying to get us infected with your mommy nation's national dyslexia,
insisting that it's not theater, but theatre, not center, but
centre. I say
HAR!
Regards,
Bob...
A picture is worth a thousand words,
but it uses up three thousand times the memory.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:38:22 -0700, Bob Blakely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with lots of snips inbetween
unnecessary
My thoughts would be to go along the lines of time of day Using
the golden hour of sunset, when the sun is red, if you can catch it
with the sun full on the statue, you will get the best light at
least as I envision it. I suppose that maybe a morning sunrise shot
would work as well... I
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From: Bob Blakely
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
Why Bill! I didn't know you were French! And I thought you were in
Saskatchewan, not Quebec!
I am, and while all this was going on, my ancestors were still in Scotland,
minding their own business
Necessary? Nope. I don't find it at all painful to try and make photos
outside of Photoshop and the digital work flow. For me it's always about
doing things the easy way - I take pride in the skills I have as well as
the craft of photography. Photoshop and digi stuff is fine, but there's
more
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
(poetic memories of darkroom work -- good reading but too long to quote)
... but I notice no mention of the SMELL. That eau de fixer that stayed in
the nose for hours and took the joy right out of the next meal.
I miss a few things about the chemical
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how does one
do it with color? For example, there's a piece of artwork that I'd like to
photograph. It's rusted metal and the background is green grass. I'd like
to photograph it in such a way that the grass is much darker and the
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: A question for color film users
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how does one
do it with color? For example, there's a piece of artwork that I'd like
to
photograph. It's rusted metal and the background
That should read colour film.
William Robb
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From: William Robb
Subject: Re: A question for color film users
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: A question for color film users
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how
Frankly, I'd do it with light control. You know, good old fashioned
reflectors to light the rusted artwork. I suppose you could put a skylight
filter on. It wouldn't put any noticeably unacceptable color casts on rust
or grass, but the advantage may not be noticeable either. Rust is a reddish
Oh God! Not the old, British unnecessary u thing again. Next you'll be
trying to get us infected with your mommy nation's national dyslexia,
insisting that it's not theater, but theatre, not center, but
centre. I say Noah Webster didn't go far enough! It should be ded, not
dead. That damned a
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: A question for color film users
Oh God! Not the old, British unnecessary u thing again. Next you'll be
trying to get us infected with your mommy nation's national dyslexia,
insisting that it's not theater, but theatre, not center
.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: A question for color film users
I know how to control contrast and tonality with BW film, but how does
one
do it with color? For example, there's a piece of artwork that I'd like
Hi Bob,
I was thinking I might have more control with slide film and shooting
during magic hour early in the AM or in the evening when the red from the
sun light would enhance the red of the art work, and maybe not have so
great an effect on the green grass (which, over the years, I've found
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