Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-19 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kenneth Waller wrote: Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) Shel, I'm worried about the trying part... I think I get what he means though. Kostas

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Perry Pellechia
> > > > > > Now don't you go start flashing your ideas about. > > > > > > > > On 1/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You both oughta keep your big apertures shut! > > > > > > > > > >

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread derbyc
h oughta keep your big apertures shut! > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pd

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Perry Pellechia
art flashing your ideas about. > > > > On 1/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You both oughta keep your big apertures shut! > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Kenneth W

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread derbyc
our big apertures shut! > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. > > >Date: We

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Perry Pellechia
into a tiff. > > > >Kenneth Waller > > > >- Original Message - From: "Perry Pellechia" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. > > > > > >>They don't call it RAW mode

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
You both oughta keep your big apertures shut! Tom C. From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:45:42 -0500 They don't call it RAW mode for nothing. Pe

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Perry Pellechia
> - Original Message - > From: "Perry Pellechia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. > > > > They don't call it RAW mode for nothing. > > > > > > On 1/18/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
They don't call it RAW mode for nothing. Perry, off hand I'd say that that comment will probably get alot of people into a tiff. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Perry Pellechia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Perry Pellechia
gt; > - Original Message - > From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. > > > > Cotty wrote on 18.01.06 15:15: > > > >> Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? > > And yo

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? And your right hand will grow bigger and bigger over time :-P And you will go blind. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Shel's right, all it takes is money! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. On 1/18/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Digital is like trying to make love

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) Shel, I'm worried about the trying part... Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Digital is like trying to

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
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Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. I apologize. Don't.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment! Don't. Tom insults. Everyone WW I apologize. Tom C.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment! Don't. Tom insults. Everyone WW

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. To me, it's not that I miss the "disadvantages" (or even the advantages) of using film, but that I sometimes miss handling particular instruments that happen to use f

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. On 18/1/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: You're a wanker. Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment! Don't. Tom insults. WW

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Why still use film? Last week my wife (who consults re Creative Memories archival scrapboooking thingies) talked to a woman whose home computer crashed. Five (5) years of digita

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. While I have never made love to a hooker. There's a dirty joke in there somewhere... It's the first line in the chorus of a country music love ballad. William Robb

RE: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Yep. Me too. > >> > >>Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, > >>sometimes not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure > does beat the > >>instant result. > >> > >>Still, on the risk of exten

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 8:04, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > "Real Men" don't buy film. It's stored in their freezer > > That's where mine has been for four years. It will probably never get > out of there again. I've been getting mine out re

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Yep. Me too. Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure does beat the instant result. Still, on the risk of extending the metaphor, I like the best of both worlds. Swiss Tony! http://www.ogmac.co.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
and *I* will take that as a compliment... Tom C. From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: "pentax list" Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:23:45 + On 18/1/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Definition of a mistress: Between a mister and a mattress Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling > You want a Ds, a D is more like a mistress. > > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >On 1/18/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Digital is like trying to make love to a ho

RE: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jens Bladt wrote: > One good reason - perhaps not yours - may have to do with > archiving pictures. > I'm pretty sure 90% of digital images won't make it to the > next generation. > I recently became a grand parent as my youngest daughter gave > birth to a girl. > I thought it was amusing to be

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread frank theriault
On 1/18/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Left arm well muscled then? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. (but yeah, a bit) cheers, lefty -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
2006 10:48 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: A reflection on digital camera use. During December I rarely used a camera and when I did, it was for those sort of pictures that required onward transmission quickly (eBay postings, school concerts and Xmas pictures of the children to e-mail to relat

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Ok, you're a wanker. (Feel better now?) You shouldn't need to ask :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >You're a wanker. Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Left arm well muscled then? frank theriault wrote: On 1/18/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless you're a lefty. I'm a lefty. What's your point? cheers, frank, who wants to remind you that lefties are in their right mind... -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Hen

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread frank theriault
On 1/18/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless you're a lefty. I'm a lefty. What's your point? cheers, frank, who wants to remind you that lefties are in their right mind... -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Bob W
> Yep. Me too. > > Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, > sometimes not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure does > beat the instant result. > > Still, on the risk of extending the metaphor, I like the best > of both worlds. > Swiss Tony! http://www.ogmac.co.uk

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Unless you're a lefty. Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Cotty wrote on 18.01.06 15:15: Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? And your right hand will grow bigger and bigger over time :-P -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
Yes there is. :) From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:24 -0500 On 1/18/06, Sandra Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
ok about 3 family portraits for friends around christmas. I take pictures of all the baptisims and baby dedications at church. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:08:19

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread frank theriault
On 1/18/06, Sandra Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I have never made love to a hooker. There's a dirty joke in there somewhere... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
You want a Ds, a D is more like a mistress. Scott Loveless wrote: On 1/18/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) Shel Sweet! I'm ordering my *istD RIGHT NOW! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Sandra, Sounds like it's more a relationship problem than a hardware problem:-). Seriously, digital has been very good to me, and my results are generally better than they were with film. But I haven't changed the way I approach the task. I still shoot as though I don't have a frame to spare

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Ok, you're a wanker. (Feel better now?) Cotty wrote: On 18/1/06, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: Yep. Me too. Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure does beat the instant result. Ipso facto,

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
I was Just curious... what's the Pz-1p issue? In green mode it's a fancy P&S. In Hyper-program you have full control. Tom C. From: "Sandra Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A reflection on

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
era when I am unsure of how much longer we will be building trucks. If I didn't have Sami it would be easier. san From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread John Francis
I'd agree with that. The camera does what you want, with no questions asked; the whole purpose is to make the experience enjoyable for you. On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:50:30AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) > > Shel > > > > > > On

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
What's stopping you from going back to film? Tom C. From: "Sandra Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:22:45 + While I have never mad

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
While I have never made love to a hooker. I feel the same way. I danced a fine dance with my Pz-70. The enterance of digital into my camera collection allowed me room for error. Yes the *Ds is a marvolous camera, but it gives me room to try again and I often miss the special moment that I fo

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Juan Buhler
This last weekend I decided to exercise the Leica a bit. I went out and shot one full roll of Tri-X. It was interesting not having an LCD to chimp off of, and one or two times I tried to take two shots in quick succession without advancing the film :) What was fun was just after finishing the roll

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? Just call me a wanker :-) Cheers, Cotty I was just getting ready to say that... You're a wanker. Tom C.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 18.01.06 15:15: > Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? And your right hand will grow bigger and bigger over time :-P -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It used to be for me as well, until one morning I woke up next to a Linhof ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Making the analogy that using a camera is like having sex in any way > is too weird for me.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: "Real Men" don't buy film. It's stored in their freezer That's where mine has been for four years. It will probably never get out of there again. I mean, really: I don't fondle cameras or get off on how wonderful they feel. The bigges

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/18/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) > > Shel > Sweet! I'm ordering my *istD RIGHT NOW! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

RE: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
O, that ought to go over well! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:51 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: A reflection on digital camera use. > > > Digital is like

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) Shel > On 18/1/06, Derby Chang said: > >Yep. Me too. >Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, sometimes >not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure does beat the instant result.

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
"Real Men" don't buy film. It's stored in their freezer Shel > [Original Message] > From: Derby Chang > Malcolm Smith wrote: > > During December I rarely used a camera and when I did, it was for those sort > > of pictures that required onward transmission quickly (eBay postings, school > >

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yep. Me too. > >Film is like making love. Take your time. Sometimes it works, sometimes >not. No guarantees. But when it does, it sure does beat the instant result. Ipso facto, digital is like self-abuse? Just call me a wanker :-) Cheers

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why still use film? Last week my wife (who consults re Creative Memories archival scrapboooking thingies) talked to a woman whose home computer crashed. Five (5) years of digital data all gone. And the backups were non-existent. While we geeks & tech weenies here may revel is our success, as we a

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Malcolm Smith wrote: During December I rarely used a camera and when I did, it was for those sort of pictures that required onward transmission quickly (eBay postings, school concerts and Xmas pictures of the children to e-mail to relatives etc) and I noticed how easily it was to get used to ins

Re: A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Derby Chang
Malcolm Smith wrote: During December I rarely used a camera and when I did, it was for those sort of pictures that required onward transmission quickly (eBay postings, school concerts and Xmas pictures of the children to e-mail to relatives etc) and I noticed how easily it was to get used to inst

A reflection on digital camera use.

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
During December I rarely used a camera and when I did, it was for those sort of pictures that required onward transmission quickly (eBay postings, school concerts and Xmas pictures of the children to e-mail to relatives etc) and I noticed how easily it was to get used to instant results. This morn