Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2003-12-31 Thread Mark Roberts
"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >AP being Amateur Photographer, a British mag. The did a three camera >shootout with the Pentax, a Nikon F75, and whatever the equivalent priced >Canon are. They had some sort of point-scoring system, and the Canon and >the Nikon scored 89% each, a

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2003-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! BD> I bought a film *ist as a backup to my *istD. Overall, it is quite BD> nice and has enough features. Pretty usable overall. Certainly not BD> an MZ-S by any stretch of the imagination, but at 1/3 cost, there are BD> not very many features on the MZ-S that it is lacking. BD> My daughter

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. Happy New Year, Kostas

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread frank theriault
essimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: &

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Christian Skofteland
t: Thursday, January 01, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about it already... > > > > -f

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. >> >> Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. > >It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; >Pentax aren't g

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread John Francis
> > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about it already... Well, in all honesty, we don't know what the real story is. But, in any case, it's about time Pentax started using modern technology. It w

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread brooksdj
> > - Original Message - > Think more positively: > Pentax FA-E mount. > > The "E" stands for "Enablement".. > > an excuse to buy new lenses. > > William Robb > Damn.My first Newyears resolution out the window.:-) Dave

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Pieter Nagel
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 12:32:53PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: > I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' > lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era > bodies as well as the lenses. This statement doesn't quite make sense to me. It's not just pe

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread ernreed2
John Francis posted: > > So which mount is "crippled"? The one that offers the capability of full- > precison, error-free control, or the one that relies on mechanical aids? > >From my POV, the one that can't use MY lenses! ERN, shaking head with a half-grin: isn't it obvious?

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread graywolf
Me? I think today's photographers are crippled. The problem with the new cameras is you have to carry them around. If they were truely automatic, you could just tell them what kind of shots you wanted and they would go out and get them for you. I still say real photographers use the Speed Graph

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Bill Owens
> I still say real photographers use the Speed Graphic. Juat ask Weegee. > > And wet glass plates as their medium? :-) Bill

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread ernreed2
Tanya posted, among many other things: .. > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? (oh, right, me -- both times I shot weddings. Moving on ...) ERN

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
ERN asked: > Tanya posted, among many other things: > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > > > Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? #blink# Is this a trick question? -- Glenn

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
ERN asked: "Who wears a skirt when taking photographs??" Actually, you know what, I should have said that I was 'figuratively' speaking when I typed that cause, guess what? I NEVER wear a skirt when I am shooting - and especially not weddings. Last week I had 3 guys hoist me and my tripod up onto

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
LOL! He'll be a bit out of fashion dressed like that though! tan. - Original Message - From: "Pieter Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > On Fri, Jan 02, 2

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Christian Skofteland
> - Original Message - > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Very interesting, very very interesting... > > > > Looks like TV and Tanya will be out of jobs next year. > > - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hmmm, bet he can't cl

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > we said already, the -10 does both. Why not a 1,200 pound camera? Egads! - that would make the 6x7 seem a mere Minox by comparison! Who could lift it, let alone carry it about hour after hour through wilderness stalking the ever elus

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Christian said: "bet he can't drop his cameras" hmmm, maybe so, and even if he did, he is probably equipped with the technology to fix them himself anyways! lol... Christian asked: "have you seen tv in a skirt...?" *eek*, i really didn't need *that* picture in my mind's eye, that is going to

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread George Sinos
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:00:00 + (GMT) Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "I am open to suggestions for something better. If PC is your style, we could go "disabled-mount". If you like the lack of backwards compatibility, we can try calling them "perfect-mount", "way of the future

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tanya wrote: > Pieter Nagel wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:53:24AM +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: > > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > True. Lewis the Robot Photographer is more suited for a corset and hoop > > dress. > LOL! He'll be a bit out of fashion dressed like t

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> Tanya posted, among many other things: >> > and i know who looks better in a skirt... >> > >> >> Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? Do nappies (diapers) count? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Ok, I SO didn't need THAT mental picture just before going to sleep... Cotty, I blame you if I have nightmares tonight! tan. ERN wrote: "Tanya posted, among many other things: and i know who looks better in a skirt... Who wears a skirt when taking photographs??" To which, Cotty responded:

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I believe the FA lenses also incorporate aperture-sensing encoders on >the inner mechanism, so it is possible for such a lens to accurately >report aperture setting over the digital communication pin. I fully >expect to see a future Pentax body that reli

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Ok, I SO didn't need THAT mental picture just before going to sleep... > >Cotty, I blame you if I have nightmares tonight! > > > >tan. > >ERN wrote: > >"Tanya posted, among many other things: and i know who looks better in a >skirt... >Who wears a skirt w

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Belak
Hi Bruce, BD> I bought a film *ist as a backup to my *istD. Overall, it is quite BD> nice and has enough features. Pretty usable overall. Certainly not BD> an MZ-S by any stretch of the imagination, but at 1/3 cost, there are BD> not very many features on the MZ-S that it is lacking. could you

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cotty asked: > >> Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? > Do nappies (diapers) count? I think that'd be a separate category. [ponders a bit] Oh. Oh my. I've done that, too. Hallowe'en costume a couple of years ago -- nappies (do you have any idea how many diapers one has to layer atop

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Jordan commented: > Although around here men have been seen in skirts, (they call them kilts, > but if it looks like a skirt, call it one). *shrug* Context context context. According to clothing taxonomy, dictionary definitions, fashion history ... a kilt is a type of skirt. A type of ski

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Jordan
This may be technically correct, but I wouldn't suggest standing in the centre of Glasgow or Edinburgh and shouting it out loud. Not unless you want to be hear the traditional Scottish farewell, "Pick your window". (a rough translation of this is "please choose how you wish to leave this room") :

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Chris Brogden wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > > > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. > > > > Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. > > > > Happy New Year, > > Kos

Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Chris Brogden wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. > > > > > > Pity

Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2003-12-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
I bought a film *ist as a backup to my *istD. Overall, it is quite nice and has enough features. Pretty usable overall. Certainly not an MZ-S by any stretch of the imagination, but at 1/3 cost, there are not very many features on the MZ-S that it is lacking. My daughter has been "testing" it fo

Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era bodies as well as the lenses. They might be enticed by the MZ-S (much more the same style in handling and feel), but certainly not enough of them would go for an

Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
ter about it already... ft> ft> -frank (on his lawyer's advice) ft> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist ft> fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer >>From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply

Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Pieter, We were talking about the FILM *IST - not the DIGITAL *IST D. The film *ist is a very inexpensive camera targeted more at first time users who are going to buy the FAJ zooms. My point was, that the people who complain about the lack of support of older lenses (people who have the l

Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best

2004-01-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Peter, I only have a ZX-10 to compare with. The sound of the *ist is louder than the ZX-10. It is a much more confident sound (solid - less cheesy), but is louder. If stealth is important, the ZX-10 is the better choice (lot less features). I can't really say how loud the ZX-10 is compar