Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Actually, so does the Oly E-P1. Must be a trendy feature. Steve Desjardins On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:15 PM, "William Robb" wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "David Savage" > Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand > > >

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand And speaking of the Fn button, the D700 has another nice feature I use a lot. It has an "Info" button. Press it once and all the cameras current settings are d

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM, David Savage wrote: > :-) > > The D700's interface is more logical for me > > As an example, I could never get used to the directions you had turn > the thumb wheels to change aperture. Even after 3 Pentax DSLR's I > still turned the wheel the wrong way on occasion.

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

:-) The D700's interface is more logical for me As an example, I could never get used to the directions you had turn the thumb wheels to change aperture. Even after 3 Pentax DSLR's I still turned the wheel the wrong way on occasion. It just never made sense to me, and I always had to think about

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:56 -0400, "Ken Waller" wrote: > > Probably not an issue for a lot of users in that they most likely only > have > one body - not like alot of us here. Mark!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westne

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxu

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Yeah Savage! You should know that! Use the Pentax for a month and see if the Nikon doesn't give you pause. Frustrating. Hah! Harrumph! On Jul 16, 2009, at 07:03 , paul stenquist wrote: I think a preference for a particular camera and user-interface judgments are somewhat a product of wha

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:11 -0600, "William Robb" wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "paul stenquist" > Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand > > > >I think a preference for a particular camera and user-interface

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

- Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand I think a preference for a particular camera and user-interface judgments are somewhat a product of what one becomes accustomed to. When I was using the K10D e

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

I think a preference for a particular camera and user-interface judgments are somewhat a product of what one becomes accustomed to. When I was using the K10D exclusively, everything was automatic. I barely had to think. When I went back to it after using the K20D for a few months, I was con

Re: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

2009/7/16 Jens : > (and because I love the photographer oriented user-interface of most Pentax > cameras) I'm not being a sh!t stirrer, but people who say this have never really used a Nikon. And if you don't like the default button & dial assignments, you at least have the option of changing t

Re: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

erent. > >> Paul > >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> > >>> Adam Maas wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. > >>>> Alling >>>> > > >>>> wrot

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

From: Bob Sullivan Pentax is being very particular lately. The only places that the US web site lists as selling gear near me are Wal-Mart/Sams Club and Calumet Photo (Big Photo dealer on both coasts). None of the remaining local camera shops are listed. Perhaps they are frightened by Ritz going

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On 09/07/2009, at 12:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Juriy Lukin wrote: 2009/7/8 P. J. Alling : It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Nope. Lomo's adapter costs about $9 and has the same quality. I've hea

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Juriy Lukin wrote: 2009/7/8 P. J. Alling : It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Nope. Lomo's adapter costs about $9 and has the same quality. I've heard stories about non Pentax/Asahi adapters ge

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Juriy Lukin wrote: K-Adapter/M42 29.90 -> 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. SMC-A 1.4x S 279 -> 1599 (+ 473%) SMC-A 1.4x L 449 -> 2399 (+ 434%) SMC-A 2.0x S 489 -> 2599 (+ 431%) SMC-A 2.0x L 669 -> 2199 (+ 229%) I remember 2006, when 1.7x

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Juriy Lukin wrote: > Sounds like optimization (i.e. cutting) of expenses. > This way may lead to closing of all distributors except Japan :) For the USA, this may be realistic. No duty on cameras so no stay in customs. High value per pound so air freight delivery. C

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

>> For whatever reasons, Pentax has had a big shake-up in Germany. I >> surmise that out of that comes a new importer/distributor, and new >> employees. > > Pentax do their own distributing in Hamburg, Germany. Used to be the > European HQ. They're in the process of moving this to Paris. But Hambur

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Joseph McAllister wrote: > For whatever reasons, Pentax has had a big shake-up in Germany. I > surmise that out of that comes a new importer/distributor, and new > employees. Pentax do their own distributing in Hamburg, Germany. Used to be the European HQ. They're in the process of moving this

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

2009/7/8 P. J. Alling : > It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 > years.  The new price does seem a bit excessive. > Nope. Lomo's adapter costs about $9 and has the same quality. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

For whatever reasons, Pentax has had a big shake-up in Germany. I surmise that out of that comes a new importer/distributor, and new employees. For some reason, they are marking Pentax products up by untennable amounts. Then the stores they distribute to will mark them up again, or stop sel

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

I'd rather have an Alfa Romeo MiTo ... or http://tinyurl.com/kpyg3w -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- P

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

iam Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured t

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Perhaps they are trying to

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

P. J. Alling wrote: > It's a precision cut piece of steal :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Juriy Lukin wrote: K-Adapter/M42 29.90 -> 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. SMC-A 1.4x S 279 -> 1599 (+ 473%) SMC-A 1.4x

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

different. >>>> Paul >>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>>> >>>>> Adam Maas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. >>>>>> Alling >>>>>>

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

n Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Some more statistics: smc35: +76% smc35: +30% without smc-A convertors smc645: +43% smc67: +15% all:+33.5% Mostly some bags kept their price. Not a single product became cheaper, not even the K20D. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter htt

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

> I checked myself by now, since both 2007 and 2008 are still on their site. I found my 2005 list now as well: http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg274600.html I do not know about the prices before, but the prices remained all the same for 2005/2007/2008. Spreading 20 % across four years

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

> K-Adapter/M42 29.90 -> 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. > SMC-A 1.4x S     279 -> 1599  (+ 473%) > SMC-A 1.4x L     449 -> 2399  (+ 434%) > SMC-A 2.0x S     489 -> 2599  (+ 431%) > SMC-A 2.0x L     669 -> 2199  (+ 229%) I remember 2006, when 1.7x AF tele-conver

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

> > Two examples, list of august 2008 -> new list: > > DA 12-24: 699 -> 1299 > > DA 35 Limited: 399 -> 729 > > Somewhat above inflation and in no relation to recent exchange rate > variations. I checked myself by now, since both 2007 and 2008 are still on their site. They raised the price

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

ng> wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Adam Maas wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: >>>>> >>>

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling> wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Adam Maas wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: >> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" >>> Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax ha

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" > Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand > > > > >> Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no mor

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

- Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as m

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

From: Ralf R. Radermacher > Subject: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand > To: "Pentax Mailingliste" > Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:23 AM > Here's their new German pricelist: > > http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1214/media/bd210b383b89e271ae354bae55fcded3 &

RE: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Fate wants you to buy that Leica you've been yearning for... > > Ralf, I just hanged the phone having talked with local customer > service. The clerk indicated that there is a possibility that Pentax > K-7 will *not* be sold in Israel all together. Further, she said, if I > were to buy it abroad,

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Vistek and Henrys here are listing the basic stuff at least. McBain in Alberta is having a Pentax month and lots of sales, or at least some of the prices are back to what they were last year. Dave On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Pentax is being very particular lately. > The

RE: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

ailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:44 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Sadly, prices of *everything* have risen sharply in the midst of this worldwide economic crisis. I'm glad I have g

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Martin Trautmann wrote: > I don't know last year's prices by heart. Do you have them for direct > comparison? Two examples, list of august 2008 -> new list: DA 12-24: 699 -> 1299 DA 35 Limited: 399 -> 729 Somewhat above inflation and in no relation to recent exchange rate variations. Thi

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Sadly, prices of *everything* have risen sharply in the midst of this worldwide economic crisis. I'm glad I have good equipment that I like using already. I'll concentrate on my photography and not on buying equipment until either the prices settle down or my income goes back up. -- Godfrey www

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Original-Nachricht > Datum: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:04:43 +0200 > Von: fotor...@gmx.de > An: pdml@pdml.net > Betreff: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand > Martin Trautmann wrote: > > > What's your point? I did not check

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P. J. Alling wrote: > Are those prices in any way negotiable? They certainly are. But they reflect substantial rises of the prices their dealers have to pay which will affect street prices once existing stocks have been sold. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany B

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Martin Trautmann wrote: > What's your point? I did not check how much lens prices exploded. Exactly. Look at the prices of the better lenses, i.e. SDM, DA* and Limited... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : h

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Here's their new German pricelist: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1214/media/bd210b383b89e271ae354bae55fcded3 /Produkinformation_Juli_09.pdf As if the wrecking of their customer service hadn't been enough. Ralf Are those prices in any way negotiable? In the US, n

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

> Here's their new German pricelist: > > http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1214/media/bd210b383b89e271ae354bae55fcded3 > /Produkinformation_Juli_09.pdf > > As if the wrecking of their customer service hadn't been enough. What's your point? I did not check how much lens prices exploded. Do you care a

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Bob Sullivan wrote: > Pentax is being very particular lately. Things are really getting out of hand. First they wreck their German customer service which was one of the main arguments for people buying Pentax, over here. Meanwhile, the German discussion forums are full of people who've last seen

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

I can provide prices in Russia. DA 16-50 $1647 DA 60-250 $2337 DA 12-24 $1945 And after all, they want us to buy Pentax? No way... We're not the richest people of the world. Russian photo market is about 4% of the total. I don't think they could increase it. C*n*n, N*k*n, S*n* - with ea

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Pentax is being very particular lately. The only places that the US web site lists as selling gear near me are Wal-Mart/Sams Club and Calumet Photo (Big Photo dealer on both coasts). None of the remaining local camera shops are listed. Perhaps they are frightened by Ritz going bankrupt? They seem q

Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Ralf, I just hanged the phone having talked with local customer service. The clerk indicated that there is a possibility that Pentax K-7 will *not* be sold in Israel all together. Further, she said, if I were to buy it abroad, I will have no warranty coverage as they don't provide international war

As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand

Here's their new German pricelist: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1214/media/bd210b383b89e271ae354bae55fcded3 /Produkinformation_Juli_09.pdf As if the wrecking of their customer service hadn't been enough. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real