Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Brewer
Matthew Miller wrote: I understand that no one actually has a helpful answer to my question, but that doesn't mean that there *shouldn't* be one. Pentax customer support USA couldn't help me either -- presumably only some engineers in Pentax Japan know the answer. It irritates me that informatio

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh Heck Dave, it's been done... David Savage wrote: "I understand that no one actually has a helpful answer to my question" Mark! DS 2009/5/12 Matthew Miller : On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:01:02PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Well, sure. But I don't want the data for the sake of the d

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 07:34:28AM +0800, David Savage wrote: > "I understand that no one actually has a helpful answer to my question" > Mark! :) thanks. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org The Definitive Pentax P-TTL Flash Model Guide:

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-11 Thread David Savage
"I understand that no one actually has a helpful answer to my question" Mark! DS 2009/5/12 Matthew Miller : > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:01:02PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: >>> Well, sure. But I don't want the data for the sake of the data. I want it >>> so I can enter it into the other wb sett

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:01:02PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: >> Well, sure. But I don't want the data for the sake of the data. I want it >> so I can enter it into the other wb setting on the camera. > To what end? To save the setting? I've found that unless the light source > is controlled, co

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-10 Thread paul stenquist
On May 10, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:06:26PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: When I have to do a custom white balance, which of course is only when shooting jpegs, I just use the grey card or a white card for that matter. If I don't like the resul

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:06:26PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: > When I have to do a custom white balance, which of course is only when > shooting jpegs, I just use the grey card or a white card for that matter. > If I don't like the results, I use the -3 +3 adjustments. It

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-10 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets? When I have to do a custom whi

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-09 Thread paul stenquist
When I have to do a custom white balance, which of course is only when shooting jpegs, I just use the grey card or a white card for that matter. If I don't like the results, I use the -3 +3 adjustments. It doesn't really mater what the Kelvin temp might be if the shots look good

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-09 Thread Matthew Miller
e Kelvin values aren't changed by it. But the blue-amber axis, by virtue of including blue, seems like it must have a complicated relationship with the Kelvin number. And I guess that's the third thing: it's hard to measure the actual impact of changes here. I suppose the test is to s

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry to hear this Doug. This stinks. -- MaritimTim 2009/5/7 Doug Brewer : > William Robb wrote: > >> >> Say what? >> >> William Robb > > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > > Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news about an > hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. >

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-08 Thread Doug Brewer
Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:10:55PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: oh, sorry Matthew. I was looking into this and got distracted when I found out my job had been eliminated. Sorry to hear -- and sheesh, no worries: keep your priorities straight! thanks, and thanks to everyo

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:17:38AM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: > You can assign any combination of settings (including white balance) to > the "User" spot on the top dial. See page 167 of the manual. That won't > let you store a bunch of WBs, though; only one. Yeah, actually what I've got now is the

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:10:55PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: > oh, sorry Matthew. I was looking into this and got distracted when I found > out my job had been eliminated. Sorry to hear -- and sheesh, no worries: keep your priorities straight! > GM, near as I was able to guess, means gamma, and

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: William Robb wrote: Say what? William Robb yup. I've been cleaning out my office. I'm just about to leave home to go clean out my office, too. At least now that finals are over (and grades turned in) I can start seriously looking for work in Boston. -- PDML Pentax-Di

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Graydon
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:46:25AM -0700, Rick Womer scripsit: > It's a small card (about 6in/15cm square), and is in an outside pocket > of my bag. Shooting inside a church a few weeks ago, it came out 3 or > 4 times. Who said anything about consistent light? I took "series" in your original de

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Rick Womer
It's a small card (about 6in/15cm square), and is in an outside pocket of my bag. Shooting inside a church a few weeks ago, it came out 3 or 4 times. Who said anything about consistent light? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Graydon wrote: > On Thu, May 07, 2009 at

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets? > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > Damn. That sucks. I ended up back at Wallyworld last month because the home reno thing dried up enough t

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > William Robb wrote: > >> >> Say what? >> >> William Robb > > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > > Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news about an > hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. Doug. Really sorry to he

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread mike wilson
Doug Brewer wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > > > > Say what? > > > > William Robb > > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > > Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news > about an hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. Bum. (That's an expletive, not a descrip

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Graydon
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:17:38AM -0700, Rick Womer scripsit: > I always shoot RAW. In tricky light I toss a black/grey/white card into the > scene, and take a shot. In Lightroom I use the eyedropper on the image of > the card, and set all the pics from that series to the resulting WB. When m

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread paul stenquist
Sorry to hear that. Good luck. Paul On May 6, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: William Robb wrote: Say what? William Robb yup. I've been cleaning out my office. Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news about an hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. -- PDML

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Rick Womer
the scene, and take a shot. In Lightroom I use the eyedropper on the image of the card, and set all the pics from that series to the resulting WB. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Matthew Miller wrote: > From: Matthew Miller > Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating cu

RE: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-07 Thread Bob W
> > William Robb wrote: > > > >> > >> Say what? > >> > >> William Robb > > > > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > > > > Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news > > about an hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. > > Doug: Really sorry to hear about your job.

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Subash
On Wed, 06 May 2009 23:34:34 -0400 Doug Brewer wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > > > > Say what? > > > > William Robb > > yup. I've been cleaning out my office. > > Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news > about an hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. sorry to he

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 6, 2009, at 21:15 , Joseph McAllister wrote: As far as the K110 D, if there have been no bids you can remove it. I meant K10 D If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pen

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Joseph McAllister
John Coyle wrote: That's bad news Doug - hope that something you want to do turns up soon. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: "Doug Brewer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating

RE: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread John Coyle
That's bad news Doug - hope that something you want to do turns up soon. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: "Doug Brewer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating custom white ba

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Doug Brewer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets? William Robb wrote: Say what? William Robb yup. I've been cleaning out my office. Looks like it

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Doug Brewer
William Robb wrote: Say what? William Robb yup. I've been cleaning out my office. Looks like it's back to hustling photo gigs. Too bad I got the news about an hour after I listed my K10 on ebay. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets? > > oh, sorry Matthew. I was looking into this and got distracted when I found > out my job had been eliminated. > Say what? William Robb

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Doug Brewer
Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:42:04AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: which camera we talking about here? Um, K10D. I can't believe I left that out in such a long message. But, as far as I know, this information is a complete mystery for any Pentax dSLR. oh, sorry Matthew.

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:42:04AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > which camera we talking about here? > Um, K10D. I can't believe I left that out in such a long message. But, as far as I know, this information is a complete mystery for any Pentax dSLR. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattd

Re: [k10d] replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-04 Thread Matthew Miller
ends up with a green tint. Now, I can -- and >> do -- set the white balance perfectly with a gray card. But since the >> lighting there is always the same, what I'd _like_ to do is transfer that >> setting to one of the three custom white balance settings available. >> >

Re: replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-03 Thread Doug Brewer
card. But since the lighting there is always the same, what I'd _like_ to do is transfer that setting to one of the three custom white balance settings available. Unfortunately, there's no way in-camera to read what the snapped white balance is (is there)? There's some possibl

replicating custom white balance in kelvin + offsets?

2009-05-03 Thread Matthew Miller
hting there is always the same, what I'd _like_ to do is transfer that setting to one of the three custom white balance settings available. Unfortunately, there's no way in-camera to read what the snapped white balance is (is there)? There's some possible information in the extende

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Custom White balance > You're a shipwrecked sailor, aren't you? What else is there to do? > Reminds me of the story of the six sailors and one lady who were marooned on a desert island. After a few weeks th

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Custom White balance > On 2/5/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>You have my permission to masturbate in public. But, please, no >>pictures! > > I told you these Norwegians were nutty.

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This is just too funny...!! Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On May 3, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Bob W wrote: You're a shipwrecked sailor, aren't you? What else is there to do? I did not, I repeat; NOT, ask for permission to masturbate in public. How can you think such about me? -- MaritimTim 2009

RE: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread Bob W
You're a shipwrecked sailor, aren't you? What else is there to do? > > I did not, I repeat; NOT, ask for permission to masturbate in public. > How can you think such about me? > > > -- > MaritimTim > > 2009/5/3 Cotty : > > On 2/5/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>You hav

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
I did not, I repeat; NOT, ask for permission to masturbate in public. How can you think such about me? -- MaritimTim 2009/5/3 Cotty : > On 2/5/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>You have my permission to masturbate in public. But, please, no >>pictures! > > I told you these Nor

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/5/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >You have my permission to masturbate in public. But, please, no >pictures! I told you these Norwegians were nutty. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-02 Thread paul stenquist
You have my permission to masturbate in public. But, please, no pictures! Paul On May 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: OT: Followed the link in the first post. What I got was a BAD REQUEST message with large bold letters. What did I do to deserve that? Didn't ask if it's OK to masturbat

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-02 Thread Nick Wright
LOL. I decided to take that site down sorry. Here's a working link to that essay. http://heartofliving.blogspot.com/2009/04/wildlife-encounters.html On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > OT: > > Followed the link in the first post. > What I got was a BAD REQUEST message with larg

Re: Custom White balance

2009-05-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
OT: Followed the link in the first post. What I got was a BAD REQUEST message with large bold letters. What did I do to deserve that? Didn't ask if it's OK to masturbate in public did I? -- MaritimTim ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, auto wb. The difference is that with LR or full versions of CR used with PSCS, you can adjust an arbitrary number of similar photos with the same one click. I often color correct an entire shooot's photos by picking the right point in one and applying that to all the ones shot under

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Nick Wright
That's interesting about the white instead of grey reference. I just assumed that it could be either grey or white like the other brands'. But it does seemed to have worked fine. Yeah, I wasn't happy entirely with the noise. Most of those were shot at ISO3200. Especially the tighter shots where I

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Nick Wright
I'm assuming you mean Auto white balance and not ISO, right? In my version of iPhoto (one gen from the latest) the WB function is one of its strongest features. You can choose an eyedropper function to click a white or grey point. And you can also adjust temperature and tint. Exactly like the demo

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Nick Wright wrote: I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our public library last night. [...] The photos from the event are here: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after setting the custom WB, everything

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
er > a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. > > And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white balance is so much > easier to set than Canon's. > > With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the menu for > setting the custom balance, t

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread paul stenquist
Some nice shots here. I like the two girls with the snake, and Kyle Petty with the lizard. Well he looks like Kyle Petty:-). Paul On Apr 28, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Nick Wright wrote: These were shot in RAW. Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The cameras' Auto ISO algorithms simply have a relatively limited range of adaptation/adjustment. It doesn't make much difference to me whether I spend a half second in Lightroom to color correct white balance, so that's a pretty small advantage. I don't think I've ever moved any of my came

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Nick Wright
your tweet last night. > > Godfrey > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > >> These were shot in RAW. >> >> Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white >> balance. >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick W

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
e benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Nice gallery! Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Nick Wright
These were shot in RAW. Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Nice gallery! > > Shoot RAW.  You'll love it even more! > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW &g

Re: Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Rick Womer
sults from the auto white > balance and after > a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. > > And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white > balance is so much > easier to set than Canon's. > > With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then

Custom White balance

2009-04-28 Thread Nick Wright
I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our public library last night. I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white balance and after a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white balance is

Re: Setting custom white balance

2009-02-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
y suited for the purpose of establishing a custom white balance in any lighting conditions. The material/ construction is such that you could tuck it into a pocket or corner of your camera bag. Or use it as a soft lens cap while your camera is in the bag... The concept makes sense. I

Re: Setting custom white balance

2009-02-25 Thread ann sanfedele
en more than a shower cap, it reminds me of the elasticized plastic cover you might buy to place over a small dish of left-overs in the refrigerator. But presumably the optical transmission of this particular plastic makes it particularly suited for the purpose of establishing a custom white

Re: Setting custom white balance

2009-02-22 Thread Brendan MacRae
n Halpin > Subject: Setting custom white balance > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 9:12 PM > There was a thread here sometime in > the last few days about setting white balance in > stage-lighting conditions. I didn't pay that much att

Setting custom white balance

2009-02-21 Thread Stan Halpin
p, it reminds me of the elasticized plastic cover you might buy to place over a small dish of left-overs in the refrigerator. But presumably the optical transmission of this particular plastic makes it particularly suited for the purpose of establishing a custom white balance in any lighting