Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-09 Thread frank theriault
On 2/1/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 - Dave As the only (former) bike courier on this list (that I know of), I feel equiped to comment

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-09 Thread graywolf
...And the guy with the helmet mounted camera is the craziest one of the lot. frank theriault wrote: On 2/1/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8

RE: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Nice to have you back Frank. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 9. februar 2007 15:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Cycle couriers On 2/1/07, David Mann

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan Lee
Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: OT: Cycle couriers This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/01 Thu PM 09:51:38 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Cycle couriers On 1/2/07, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: Damn fools...pure and simple. Yeah but *happy* damn fools ;-) *Lucky*, happy damn fools

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread mike wilson
From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/01 Thu PM 11:50:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers That is the best demonstration of the most irresponsible, illegal, and downright dangerous example of cycling I have ever seen. Ignoring

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
On 2/1/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a bike courier crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian light controlled crossing some years back, of course the lights were red for the cyclist :-( I

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
thought cyclists in Brisbane could be bad John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: OT: Cycle couriers This has to be about the scariest

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread mike wilson
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 10:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers I thought it was great :-) If one gets wiped out bad luck. They know the risk they're taking. Cheers, Dave And if they hit your

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
On 2/2/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 10:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers I thought it was great :-) If one gets wiped out bad luck. They know the risk they're

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 02/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These cyclist's may be reckless, but they are no more dangerous than most drivers. Hmm, I'd hate to meet one piloting a big truck. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread mike wilson
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 11:11:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers On 2/2/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 10:33:45 GMT

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
On 2/2/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to (quite) respectfully disagree with that. 8-) That's fine Mike. I'm pretty frazzled at the moment, so almost everything I've said in the last few hours is suspect. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 11:11:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers On 2/2/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 10:33:45 GMT

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread mike wilson
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri PM 02:49:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 11:11:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri PM 02:49:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cycle couriers mike wilson wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/02 Fri AM 11:11:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread John Coyle
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Cycle couriers SNIP Don't look at Youtube much, do you? Just desserts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBXgqZd1tcmode=relatedsearch= - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've taken to playing chicken with aggresive cyclists on pavements. The ones who are courteous and careful I have no problems with; I realise that it's my judgement as to who is cc. But it's just so much fun watching their faces as they realise just how big I am and I'm _not_

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
That's why they don't get drivers licenses... Digital Image Studio wrote: On 02/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These cyclist's may be reckless, but they are no more dangerous than most drivers. Hmm, I'd hate to meet one piloting a big truck. -- -- The more I

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've taken to playing chicken with aggresive cyclists on pavements. The ones who are courteous and careful I have no problems with; I realise that it's my judgement as to who is cc. But it's just so much fun watching their faces as they realise just how big I

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I've taken to playing chicken with aggresive cyclists on pavements. The ones who are courteous and careful I have no problems with; I realise that it's my judgement as to who is cc. But it's just so much fun watching their faces as they

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I've taken to playing chicken with aggresive cyclists on pavements. You should try the tactics of a certain Sky News reporter (who shall remain nameless) when confronted with a cyclist on the

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2007, at 12:24 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 02/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These cyclist's may be reckless, but they are no more dangerous than most drivers. Hmm, I'd hate to meet one piloting a big truck. You should see our bus drivers. - Dave -- PDML

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: if you're complaining about their behavior and then you stand in the way on purpose, you're doing the same thing they are ... putting yourself and another person in harm's way needlessly ... and contradicting the implicit judgment you've

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-02 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Cotty wrote: You should try the tactics of a certain Sky News reporter (who shall remain nameless) when confronted with a cyclist on the pavement (sidewalk). In a thick Irish brogue as he literally grabs them by the scruff of the neck: Get off that fucken pavement

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 05:52:50 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Cycle couriers This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
If they can survive midtown Manhattan traffic, they can survive anything. In my crazier, younger days, I once roller bladed those same streets. Paul On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:52 AM, David Mann wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's true that drivers in NY are aware of the environmnet, but they follow no rules. I remember when I used to drive to work in midtown. To get into 53rd Street from Third Avenue I had to turn left from about the third lane over, cutting across two lanes of traffic. That was the only way I

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
Digital Image Studio wrote: I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a bike courier crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian light controlled crossing some years back, of course the lights were red for the cyclist :-( I blame frank. :-) -- Christian

Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Rick Womer
Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a bike courier crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian light controlled crossing some years back, of course the

Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
I was wondering the same thing. Haven't heard from him in at least a week. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote:

Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/2/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? He's a courtin ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? Or Shel ? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf? Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital

Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
Kenneth Waller wrote: Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days??? Or Shel ? shel was in the hospital for a procedure of some sort. someone posted that he is out and doing well. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:22, Paul Stenquist wrote: It's true that drivers in NY are aware of the environmnet, but they follow no rules. I remember when I used to drive to work in midtown. To get into 53rd Street from Third Avenue I had to turn left from about the third lane over, cutting

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 31, 2007, at 9:52 PM, David Mann wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 Wonderful piece. Reminds me of the tour I got of London with my friends who were ex-motorcycle

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
God forbid, indeed. I usually showed up there just before nine and had to get to my parking garage which was right around the corner. If I waited my turn, I would have been cut off by a dozen or more cabs that were doing exactly what I described below. It's the no-rules rul of NYC driving. I

re: Shel (was: re: OT: Cycle couriers)

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Someone asked about Shel. He's home and doing ok. Taking it easy. I correspond with him from time to time, checking in, see how he's doing. Seems a bit down on energy but otherwise all right. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread keith_w
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 01/02/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 I wouldn't give them 30mons in Sydney, the NYC drivers are very

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/2/07, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: Damn fools...pure and simple. Yeah but *happy* damn fools ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread John Coyle
Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: OT: Cycle couriers This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
in Brisbane could be bad John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: OT: Cycle couriers This has to be about the scariest video I've ever

OT: Cycle couriers

2007-01-31 Thread David Mann
This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen. These guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8 I wouldn't give them 30mons in Sydney, the NYC drivers are very accommodating from my experience as a

Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't give them 30mons in Sydney, the NYC drivers are very accommodating from my experience as a pedestrian. Hmm, try 30 seconds. I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a bike courier crossing one of the cities busiest