Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FWIW, Pentax expected DLSR sales volumes are dwarfed by even Sony. They are only 6% marketshare behind Sony and is the fastest growing DSLR manufacturer at present. If Sony doesn't release anything hot at Photokina the K100 and

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
I was talking more or less about the big picture worldwide. Basically company A selling as many cameras in a month as company B sells in a year. Tom C. >From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re:

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread P. J. Alling
;>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: DCRP K100D Review >>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:18:12 -0400 >> >>If there's enough of a price differential, many will settle for the >>six just to move up to a DSLR. I see six

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Adam Maas
product available on the shelf when a > customer wants it does not help sales or loyalty. > > It's a fine line. > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mai

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
You could be right... there's a diverse market of buyers. See how reaonable I can be? :-) Tom C. >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: DCRP K100D Review >Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
If there's enough of a price differential, many will settle for the six just to move up to a DSLR. I see six megapixel models eventually selling for $300 new. Paul On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Tom C wrote: > That wasn't the point though. The point is, 6 months from now, or > even now, > wil

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
ne line. Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: DCRP K100D Review >Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:24:49 -0400 > >If a store orders a large batch Pentax will build them, but

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread P. J. Alling
If a store orders a large batch Pentax will build them, but they won't build lenses or cameras to keep in stock, "on spec." so to speak. They seem to be getting large orders for K100D cameras so they're building them as fast as they can. That's a huge batch, for Pentax at least. Tom C wrote:

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
That wasn't the point though. The point is, 6 months from now, or even now, will most customers be willing to buy a 6 MP DSLR when that's perceived as the bottom of the barrel? (regardless of how good a camera it may be). Tom C. Paul S wrote: > >My six megapixel camera takes excellent pictur

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
>Manufacturers don't make things in huge batches any more. You need to >keep up with modern methods. > >John > One of the reasons why Pentax doesn't sell things in big batches. LOL. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Tom C
> >And then what? Throw 'em in the trash? > >keith whaley > > > This is simple economics. It applies to all companies, in all market > > economies. > > > > John > Dumpster Diving for Pentax. LOL. Sorry. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" > >> Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese >> companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in >> detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the >> company was bought by the Japanese. It depends

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: DCRP K100D Review > Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese > companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in > detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese >> companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in >> detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the >> company was bought by the Jap

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese > companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in > detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the > company was bought by t

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Don Williams
Some time ago I wrote an article on trouble shooting production lines for an industrial giant that shall be nameless. I went to Germany and studied the lines day after day. I can tell you, without any qualification, that the tiniest error in placement of a component on an assembly line can caus

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They >build to fill orders. Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few year

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-09-01 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:43:02 +0200 schreef keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > John Forbes wrote: >> There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to >> permit massive price cuts. >> >> Pentax will sell 6mp bodies for as long as people want to buy them. >> Once >> the price pe

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Nope, I haven't but this is SOP for most manufactures these days. Why would I assume that Pentax is any different. Paul Stenquist wrote: >You've been to board meetings and you're sure that is their intent? >On Aug 31, 2006, at 10:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>Pentax doesn't warehouse muc

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
You've been to board meetings and you're sure that is their intent? On Aug 31, 2006, at 10:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They > build > to fill orders. When they can no longer recover costs they'll stop > making them and sell out what

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread John Forbes
Manufacturers don't make things in huge batches any more. You need to keep up with modern methods. John On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:43:02 +0100, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Forbes wrote: >> There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to >> permit massive price

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
My six megapixel camera takes excellent pictures now. I suspect that it will continue to do so until it dies. Which may well be many years from now. My Pentax HP2 still takes excellent pictures. On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:43 PM, keith_w wrote: > John Forbes wrote: >> There won't be massive price cu

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They build to fill orders. When they can no longer recover costs they'll stop making them and sell out what little is left and take the loss as a tax write off. keith_w wrote: >John Forbes wrote: > > >>There won't be massive pri

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread keith_w
John Forbes wrote: > There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to > permit massive price cuts. > > Pentax will sell 6mp bodies for as long as people want to buy them. Once > the price people are willing to pay drops below the price at which Pentax > can turn a profi

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread John Forbes
PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: DCRP K100D Review >> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Dear All, >> >> Yet another K100D review: >> http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-re

Re: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread P. J. Alling
The cut and paste monster strikes... From the review: /Since the two cameras have much in common, I will be reusing portions of my Samsung GX-1S review here. Then just a few paragraphs further down /There is no battery grip available for this or any Pentax D-SLR. Either he just did a find an

RE: DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread Tom Cakalic
>From: Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: DCRP K100D Review >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear All, > >Yet another K100D review: >http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-revi

DCRP K100D Review

2006-08-31 Thread Douglas Newman
Dear All, Yet another K100D review: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-review/index.shtml Very nice, though it is rather unfair to compare continuous shooting performance with the D80 - that is a camera that will compete with the K10D. The K100D should be compared with the D50. Doug