Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-13 Thread Alan C
. Alan C -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! Every aircraft has to be judged by its function and service era. The Starfighter F-104 was an interceptor

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Every aircraft has to be judged by its function and service era. The Starfighter F-104 was an interceptor designed to climb quickly to high altitude and fire missiles at incoming bombers. That mission was taken over by ground based missiles almost before the Starfighter came into service. The

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-12 Thread knarf
100% agreement, Dan. The CF104 (I'm Canadian don't forget) was a compromise from the start. They knew that a quantum leap in jet engine technology was a couple of years away and they needed something to fill that gap. They went with a small, lightweight, minimalist design that extracted every

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Spitfire is also nice and would suffice. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-12 Thread John
On 2/12/2014 10:10 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The Vulcan was a heavy bomber, designed for the type of air-ground missions that fortunately were never required. It was an innovative machine with a unique, memorable design, and served many nations quite well. Fortunately it never had to

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You mean, of course, the invasion of Malvinas. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 2/12/2014 10:10 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The Vulcan was a heavy bomber, designed for the type of air-ground

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
to Chris! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! Great shot! This, however

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! Great shot! This, however, if what a REAL airplane looks like G: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10368188 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Coyle jco

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread Stanley Halpin
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! Great shot! This, however, if what a REAL airplane looks like G: http

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
my response to Chris! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! Great shot

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Stanley Halpin wrote: On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In air-to-air combat, neither the F-104 nor the Vulcan would be a match for the Phantom. I know; that used to be my job. Your job was to shoot down Vulcans and F-104’s? I know the Marines

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-11 Thread knarf
Dan - but see my response to Chris! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great shot! This, however, if what a REAL airplane looks like G: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10368188 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Sorry for the delay, had to dig out the relevant

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Mitchell
No! A mere toy. This is REALLY a real aeroplane: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3143.html Chris On 8 February 2014 08:30, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Great shot! This, however, if what a REAL airplane looks like G:

RE: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread Bob W
: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! No! A mere toy. This is REALLY a real aeroplane: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3143.h tml Chris On 8 February 2014 08:30, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Great shot! This, however, if what

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Can that thing even break the sound barrier, let alone reach Mach 2? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: No! A mere toy. This is REALLY a real aeroplane:

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Can that thing even break the sound barrier, let alone reach Mach 2? He could tell you, but obviously he'd have to kill you... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread John
. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Chris Mitchell Sent: 08 February 2014 09:32 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! No! A mere toy. This is REALLY a real aeroplane: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk

RE: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread John Coyle
Thanks Dan - but see my response to Chris! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially

RE: F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-08 Thread John Coyle
: Saturday, 8 February 2014 7:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: F104's revisited - especially for Frank! No! A mere toy. This is REALLY a real aeroplane: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3143.html Chris On 8 February 2014 08:30, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty

F104's revisited - especially for Frank!

2014-02-07 Thread John Coyle
Sorry for the delay, had to dig out the relevant slides and find a film scanner to scan slides! A shot taken at Biggin Hill or Farnborough in probably the early sixties, when the Canadian Air Force display team was showing off during the annual air show.