On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> The difference between our work flows is that you are likely aiming
> for a visually pleasing colour balance whereas I'm often aiming for an
> accurate and repeatable colour balance. The easiest methods to ensure
> accurate colour balance are to sho
On 10/12/06, Peter Loveday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose this was easier on the E10 because the "live" CCD allowed it to be
> grabbed at any time without actually taking a shot?
No it actually made an exposure, the Oly being a hybrid SLR with
optical finder and fixed image splitter was a
Perry Pellechia wrote:
> How many of you with K10D's are shooting Raw+JPG?
Not so far, and I can't imagine a situation where I will to be honest. As
Rob mentioned, having the raw button was obviously considered more important
than having a custom WB button as on the *istD. Perhaps they could'
RDS, YOU'RE RIGHT! :-))
PS> Paul
PS> On Dec 8, 2006, at 1:47 PM, William Robb wrote:
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mark Roberts"
>> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>>
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>>>
>>> Like Santa photo
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From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: K10D WB system observations
> How much did you charge for a photo if you don't mind talking about
> prices?
> And would you say that this is a good business for you or not?
> greetings
All prices
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Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>
> Like Santa photos, school portraits, etc. Anyone on the list doing the
> school photo thing? I'll be
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Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
> IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE RIGHT! :-))
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Yes, as I'm processing my wedding pics from last night, I'd say I have
to agree. It would be nigh impossible in jpeg.
Paul
On Dec 8, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> Yes, for that kind of work, jpeg is better. I did my 300 or so wedding
>> pics in RAW, but I don'
On 09/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree on everything but weddings. In my thankfully brief experience
> shooting weddings I encountered all kinds of light sources: Daylight,
> fluorescent, incandescent, candlelight, daylight-through-stained-glass.
> Individually and in myria
On 09/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
> >Yes, for that kind of work, jpeg is better. I did my 300 or so wedding
> >pics in RAW, but I don't do this often. If I was trying to earn money
> >shooting things like weddings, schools or Santa pics, I would be
> >sh
;t work properly with the K10D. I
think I'll have to take the photos outside in open shade and use the built
in flash for fill.
James
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>> From: "Mark Roberts"
>> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
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Your attempt at humor is somewhat transparent. ;+]
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
> On Dec8, 2006 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>> Most likely slide film shooters due to the lack of latitude.
>>
> Slid
Paul Stenquist wrote:
>Yes, for that kind of work, jpeg is better. I did my 300 or so wedding
>pics in RAW, but I don't do this often. If I was trying to earn money
>shooting things like weddings, schools or Santa pics, I would be
>shooting jpeg as well. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE RIGHT! :-))
I ag
On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Most likely slide film shooters due to the lack of latitude.
>
Slide film shooters who live near the equator?
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at 1:47 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>
>
>>
>> Like Santa photos, school portraits, etc. Anyone on the list doing the
>> school photo thing? I'll bet th
What he said.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
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> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
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>
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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>>I would hate to lose the flexibility of RAW for my studio shoots. I
>>still sometimes want to tweak the curve a bit during conversion, plus I
>>th
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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>
> Like Santa photos, school portraits, etc. Anyone on the list doing the
> school photo thing? I'll bet that business has changed a lot over the
> years - in terms of peop
William Robb wrote:
>From: "Mark Roberts"
>
>> It may be that some of the photographers who work in JPEG do so
>> because
>> they're long-time film users who aren't yet fully immersed in the
>> digital process. Nothing wrong with that; what works, works. The end
>> result is what they get paid fo
On 12/8/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>
>
>
> > It may be that some of the photographers who work in JPEG do so
> > because
>
>> I've heard of some big-time studio photogs who use medium format
>> digital in the studio and shoot JPEG. Given that these people probably
>> don't have the throughput demands that Bill does, I *suspect* that
>> part
>> of their reason is unspoken - a lack of familiarity/comfort with RAW
>> work
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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
> It may be that some of the photographers who work in JPEG do so
> because
> they're long-time film users who aren't yet fully immersed in the
> digital process. Not
William Robb wrote:
>It's Santa photos fer Gawds sake, it ain't high art.
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David Savage wrote:
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> BTW, I miss the *istD's manual WB button.
So do I... The 20D's manual white balance is kind of a PITA...
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
>I would hate to lose the flexibility of RAW for my studio shoots. I
>still sometimes want to tweak the curve a bit during conversion, plus I
>think the interpolation to a larger size is superior from RAW. However,
>that wouldn't be an issue shooting medium format.
I'd ne
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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
> I've heard of some big-time studio photogs who use medium format
> digital in the studio and shoot JPEG. Given that these people probably
> don't have the throughput deman
I would hate to lose the flexibility of RAW for my studio shoots. I
still sometimes want to tweak the curve a bit during conversion, plus I
think the interpolation to a larger size is superior from RAW. However,
that wouldn't be an issue shooting medium format.
Paul
On Dec 8, 2006, at 7:57 AM, M
Well, then I'll have to give it a try. As I said, I did set it
manually when shooting some classic cars with the D, but I haven't
bothered since then.
Paul
On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:43 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 08/12/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bruce's argumentation is
William Robb wrote:
>From: "Paul Stenquist"
>
>>And I don't understand why anyone would want to shoot jpegs.
>
>Wants don't always enter into it.
>I need to be able to take a card out of the camera and put it into my
>printer and make prints. Several hundred prints at a time, and they have
>to be o
On 08/12/06, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, I did play with the WB stuff a bit. and agree that
> it is very flexible but a tad complex for daily use.
> Perhaps you quickly get used to the parts you really use.
If you check the manual there really is no quick and easy way to se
On 08/12/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce's argumentation is exactly my thoughts as well, or at least has
> been until very recently. I stumbled onto this post at OpenRaw that
> relates to Pentax raw files:
> http://openraw.org/node/1541
>
> If this holds for the K10D as well, i
Bruce's argumentation is exactly my thoughts as well, or at least has
been until very recently. I stumbled onto this post at OpenRaw that
relates to Pentax raw files:
http://openraw.org/node/1541
If this holds for the K10D as well, it makes sense to get the white
balance right from the beginning e
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From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>I can do that shooting RAW as long as my exposures are accurate and
> repeatable. jpeg leaves too much to chance. in fact, Rob wasn't
> talking about shooting jpeg. I have ha
gt; - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist"
> Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>
>
>> I shoot only RAW, so I always use AWB and correct the color
>> temperature
>> in conversion. Shot a wedding today (about 300 frames) in various
>&
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From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Re: K10D WB system observations
>I shoot only RAW, so I always use AWB and correct the color temperature
> in conversion. Shot a wedding today (about 300 frames) in various
> kinds
> of light. No time to fool w
At 11:13 AM 8/12/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>I shoot only RAW, so I always use AWB and correct the color temperature
>in conversion. Shot a wedding today (about 300 frames) in various kinds
>of light. No time to fool with WB. Much easier to adjust it when
>converting. I don't understand why anyone
On 08/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shoot only RAW, so I always use AWB and correct the color temperature
> in conversion.
I only shoot RAW, so I never use AWB and don't have to correct colour
temperature during conversion, however I shoot a lot of photography
that's colour
On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I shoot only RAW,
Me, too.
> I don't understand why anyone would want to play with WB
I frequently fiddle with the white balance settings when I'm shooting
with flash in a mixed-light environment and want to drag the shutter to
keep ambien
Bruce Dayton wrote:
> One of the reason I shoot RAW is to not have to deal with WB during
> the shoot. This is especially true for weddings, where the lighting
> changes quite a bit and you don't have time to fiddle with it, along
> with forgetting to change it.
>
> So even on the *istD, I leave
I shoot only RAW, so I always use AWB and correct the color temperature
in conversion. Shot a wedding today (about 300 frames) in various kinds
of light. No time to fool with WB. Much easier to adjust it when
converting. I don't understand why anyone would want to play with WB
unless they're sh
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From: "Digital Image Studio"
Subject: K10D WB system observations
>
> I'd love to hear how other owners are finding the k10D WB system in
> use (I have my nicely WB flameproof suite on).
>
>
In use, it is rather daunting, I expec
Hi Rob,
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:24:44 +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
>I'd love to hear how other owners are finding the k10D WB system in
>use (I have my nicely WB flameproof suite on).
Not really in a position to have a founded opinion yet,
just got the K10D yesterday :-)
However, I did pl
One of the reason I shoot RAW is to not have to deal with WB during
the shoot. This is especially true for weddings, where the lighting
changes quite a bit and you don't have time to fiddle with it, along
with forgetting to change it.
So even on the *istD, I leave it on AWB and set it in the Raw
Well I know I'm not supposed to diss the K10D but the honeymoon period
is over now so, has anyone else got past the glitter and sparkle of
the K10D WB system and actually tried to use it?
All the time I've been shooting using digital SLRs I've preferred
never used AWB and in difficult lighting I p
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