RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Bob W
t; To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras > > Bob - > > After reading all of these replies, you're starting to get a lot of > different ideas of how the meter can be used. > > Before you spend a bunch of mon

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread George Sinos
digital set me browsing > the Sekonic site, where they now offer specifically digital light meters > <http://www.sekonic.com/Products/All/Overview.aspx>. > > Mine are both relics of the film days, including a L-308s and whatever was > the equivalent back then of the L-758 mete

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Larry Colen
thanks. On May 15, 2012, at 5:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> I seriously don't see what light meter will get you that a little creative >> work with the camera and histogram won't. > > Let me Google that for you: http://www.scantips.com/lights/metering3.html > See also: http://www.scantips.com/

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Larry Colen
On May 15, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I was asking a serious question here. > > Larry, believe it or not, I was answering you seriously. My silly > scenario has been repeated at many studio workshop shoots I've > attended. And

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Bob W wrote: > > Is anyone else here using a calibrated meter / camera combo? If so, how much > difference does it make, and is it easy to use or just another damn thing > getting in the way? > > Thanks, > Bob I still have my Minolta IVF but i find it underexpose

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
s can operate on both reflected and incident light. Incident light metering nets a more direct measure of the light falling on a subject regardless of subject reflectivity, relative to a calibration constant (usually 18% average reflectance). Reflected light meters are subject to the same considerations

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen I don't have time for a full on discussion right now, but my issue with incident light meters is that they don't take into account the reflectivity of the subject. The incident meter tells you how much light is falling on the subject. Expose for the amount of li

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I was asking a serious question here. Larry, believe it or not, I was answering you seriously. My silly scenario has been repeated at many studio workshop shoots I've attended. And it contains the basic truth that you aren't yet grokking. But

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Darren Addy
> I seriously don't see what light meter will get you that a little creative > work with the camera and histogram won't. Let me Google that for you: http://www.scantips.com/lights/metering3.html See also: http://www.scantips.com/lights/metering2.html and http://www.scantips.com/lights/metering.h

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
On May 15, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Bob W wrote: >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> Larry Colen > [...] >> >> People seem to have taken my question as a challenge to their adulthood >> or something. I seriously don't see what light meter will get you >> that

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
On May 15, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I was asking a serious question here. I grew up using the meter in my > camera, or occasionally the luna pro, or some other meter. Once I learned > about the histogram I was blown away by how much more information it gave me. > It's the dif

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
On May 14, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> >> Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>> Bob and Darren have actually said all that needs to be said in defense >>> of using a meter, and nothing more needs to be said, so here I go ... >>> >>>

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-15 Thread Postmaster
Doug Franklin wrote: >When you're shooting action, especially outdoors, you're going to >take one in the forehead every so often, no matter what your technique. Wisdom! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, p

RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Peter Loveday > > I have an L-308s, I hadn't actually seen that they had new "digital" > versions out. > > As far as I can see, it's more or less just the added ability to > calibrate that's different? There are some v

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Peter Loveday
May 15, 2012 3:47 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] People seem to have taken my question as a challenge to their adulthood or something. I seri

RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Larry Colen [...] > > People seem to have taken my question as a challenge to their adulthood > or something. I seriously don't see what light meter will get you > that a little creative work with the camera and histogra

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
I was asking a serious question here. I grew up using the meter in my camera, or occasionally the luna pro, or some other meter. Once I learned about the histogram I was blown away by how much more information it gave me. It's the difference between a scalar and a vector, the light meter just

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-05-14 22:44, Bruce Walker wrote: Anyways, this is one of those "you get it or you don't" issues, and Well, it's partly that, and it's partly a "what you shoot" issue. When you're shooting action, especially outdoors, you're going to take one in the forehead every so often, no matter

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-05-14 17:43, Bob W wrote: You can't bracket a once-in-a-lifetime shot. If your subject is moving and your timing is critical bracketing is not a viable option. I don't remember Larry invoking bracketing as a solution, I'm just using this quotation as an entree' to reply. :-) When sh

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: > > >Bob and Darren have actually said all that needs to be said in defense > >of using a meter, and nothing more needs to be said, so here I go ... > > > >You're in the studio. There's seamless setup, the model has come

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: >Bob and Darren have actually said all that needs to be said in defense >of using a meter, and nothing more needs to be said, so here I go ... > >You're in the studio. There's seamless setup, the model has come out >of makeup and hair and is raring to go. The studio costs $50 a

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bruce Walker
digital, you always have the option of > >> combining the frames in post production. > > > > I can't argue with your logic, Larry. > > Oh, of course I can. > > :) > > I don't have time for a full on discussion right now, but my issue with > incide

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
I can't argue with your logic, Larry. > Oh, of course I can. > :) I don't have time for a full on discussion right now, but my issue with incident light meters is that they don't take into account the reflectivity of the subject. Note, that I also didn't suggest brac

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing that I don't understand is how a handheld light meter would work > significantly better with digital than taking a photo and looking at the > histogram.  Or, for that matter, if it's an important shot, why not just > bracket.  Drop

RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bob W
> > > > One thing that I don't understand is how a handheld light meter would > > work significantly better with digital than taking a photo and > looking > > at the histogram. > > you get an incident light reading rather than a reflected reading, and > you take the reading before you start shooti

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Postmaster
d you camera doesn't have the ability >to display histograms or delete test shots. I expressed this opinion a couple of years ago and Bill Rob explained how light meters are invaluable for determining lighting ratios (among multiple light sources) in studio photography. Of course, for the

RE: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bob W
> > > The thread about exposure differences for film and digital set me > > browsing the Sekonic site, where they now offer specifically digital > > light meters <http://www.sekonic.com/Products/All/Overview.aspx>. > > > > Mine are both relics of the film

Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
On May 14, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Bob W wrote: > The thread about exposure differences for film and digital set me browsing > the Sekonic site, where they now offer specifically digital light meters > <http://www.sekonic.com/Products/All/Overview.aspx>. > > Mine are both re

Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

2012-05-14 Thread Bob W
The thread about exposure differences for film and digital set me browsing the Sekonic site, where they now offer specifically digital light meters <http://www.sekonic.com/Products/All/Overview.aspx>. Mine are both relics of the film days, including a L-308s and whatever was the equivalen

Re: Adjust your light meters

2009-04-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:02 +0100, "Bob W" wrote: > the sun is dimming... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8008473.stm > > Bob Bugger. So is my eyesight. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwa

Adjust your light meters

2009-04-21 Thread Bob W
the sun is dimming... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8008473.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: light meters

2009-02-27 Thread John Graves
Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: light meters which side? The other side... If you buy your port in those cardboard cartons with the plastic bag inside it's not hard at all. Just

Re: light meters

2009-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: light meters which side? The other side... If you buy your port in those cardboard cartons with the plastic bag inside it's not hard at all. Just turn the littl

RE: light meters

2009-02-27 Thread Bob W
which side? > > If you buy your port in those cardboard cartons with the plastic bag > inside it's not hard at all. Just turn the little valve and the port > comes right out. > > From: Christian > > Hard to port! > > > > > > -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ John > Fran

Re: light meters

2009-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
And when it's empty, you can use the aluminized plastic baggie as a reflector / diffuser on your flash! :-) On Feb 27, 2009, at 05:32 , John Sessoms wrote: If you buy your port in those cardboard cartons with the plastic bag inside it's not hard at all. Just turn the little valve and the p

Re: light meters

2009-02-27 Thread John Sessoms
If you buy your port in those cardboard cartons with the plastic bag inside it's not hard at all. Just turn the little valve and the port comes right out. From: Christian Hard to port! -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ John Francis wrote: > Widdershins, of course. > > On

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Francis
ITYM "Left hand down a bit" [I wonder who will be first with the correct followup?] By the way, my original remark was serious - in some of the more interesting mathematical symmetry models used by theoretical physicists things do not remain unchanged after a 360 degree rotation, but only after 7

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Christian
Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Christian wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: light meters Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one o

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: light meters I like your style, Bill. MARK!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and f

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Christian wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: light meters Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No compl

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: light meters Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoever. Me three. Wi

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: light meters Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoever. Me three. William Robb Can I w

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: light meters Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoe

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Christian
Hard to port! -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ John Francis wrote: Widdershins, of course. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:25:11PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: I'd suggest rotating through 720 degrees, just to be certain. Which way, cw or ccw? Facing north or south ? You gotta b

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 06:58:28PM -0500, Fernando wrote: # On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Bob W wrote: # I haven't really bother trying it (so far so good with whatever I get # with autoWB), I was really trying to understand what did Adam mean # with "However its only truly useful for the RAW

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 07:40:58PM -0500, John Francis wrote: # # Widdershins, of course. But today, the sunwise are investing in bio-deiseal -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.co

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Francis
ller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "John Francis" > Subject: Re: light meters > > >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:16:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> Mat Maessen wrote: >>>> On 2/26/09, Luiz

Re: Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Jens
Funny - I just ordered one - to take the place of my old Gossen Lunasix F. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Feb 27, 2009 00:39 "William Robb" wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Doug Brewer" > Subject: Re: lig

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Fernando
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Bob W wrote: >> > > What does the white balance have to do with the accuracy of the histogram? > Sounds like nonsense to me; white balance is applied to output, not to > input. > > Bob It's probably better explained here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readfla

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: light meters Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoever. Me three

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread David Savage
t; http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "John Francis" > Subject: Re: light meters > > >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:16:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> >>> Mat Maessen wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2/26/09, Luiz

RE: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Bob W
> > > But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. > > However its only truly useful for the RAW shooter as a good > histogram > > delivers the best data, not necessarily the best looking JPEG. > > Hi Adam, > > You mean that the histogram is based on RAW data? I thought

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Ken Waller
I'd suggest rotating through 720 degrees, just to be certain. Which way, cw or ccw? Facing north or south ? You gotta be more specific in things like this. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: light m

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:16:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: > Mat Maessen wrote: >> On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe wrote: >>> Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the >>> shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually >>> through some hours of

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Poirier
vid Wright" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: light meters I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like s

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
Sorry, but the moment you rotate anything off it's plane it just vanishes. I tried to lose my mother in law that way but my wife wouldn't allow it. Mat, developing slide film in the outskirts of civilized world may be a pain, believe me. Lost my temper more than once due to "glitches" that tu

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
That's one Pentax I miss... Mark, he uses a digital camera - a Canon Xti - in that studio. I wanted to use the Gossen for a test, in my first try at his place. Something about being a grumpy old film critter... willing to use color neg in my LX rather than just using the Xti as he does. Still

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then brack

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe wrote: > Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the > shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually > through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square > root of 1, then bracketed like hell

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Christine Aguila" From: "Bob W" > > I have also had an L-208, which is extremely small and light, but I wasn't > happy with the readings it gave me - they tended towards underexposure I've had this problem with the L-208 as well. Some Sekonic meters will allow you to adjust the exp

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Christian
Luiz Felipe wrote: I still use a Gossen Pro F - both flash and ambient, accepts a proprietary variable angle adapter, display in needle/ circular adjustable scale, one 9volt battery. Old fashioned but effective. I had one of these. Really nice meter but the ergonomics of a brick. Mine had so

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Luiz Felipe wrote: Attention please... the sample exposure test method works only with digital cameras... I simply forgot to mention he uses a Xti in his brand-new studio. And he doesn't have access to a digital camera? That's how I shoot with my Pentax 67 (with the meterless prism): I take b

RE: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" Sekonic Studio Deluxe is probably the only current one that doesn't use batteries. It's a venerable standard that's been in use by professionals for years. It's not light by modern standards, but it's perfectly usable. It does require you to use metal slides under many circumstances

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
. Still older light meters used no batteries, relying on the output of a special foto-sensible cell and a precision (for the time) voltmeter. Dad used them, and they're around, but their output is questionable at least since 1970 - those samples we have in the house, I understand others are

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
small differences under 1/2 stop. I had to use one from Vivitar for a while, and really hated that damned thing. Still older light meters used no batteries, relying on the output of a special foto-sensible cell and a precision (for the time) voltmeter. Dad used them, and they're around

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have two light meters: Sekonic L208 and Sekonic L328. I use them both. I don't seem to have the problems that others report with the L208 suggesting underexposure but then, to me, a meter is just that: a meter. I interpret the meters' reading per what I know of the scene. The

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing to the right or whatever, but they don't say anything about lighting ratios. Yeah, in the studio a good incident meter would be the way to get lightin

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Doug Brewer
Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoever. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRI

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's where I use my flash meter as well. It's much better than the guess and look method of light adjustment:-). Paul On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:17 AM, William Robb wrote: I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread William Robb
I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing to the right or whatever, but they don't say anything about lighting ratios. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinf

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Fernando
This the post I was mentioning: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=22957362&page=1 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Fernando wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. >> Ho

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Fernando
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. > However its only truly useful for the RAW shooter as a good histogram > delivers the best data, not necessarily the best looking JPEG. Hi Adam, You mean that the histogram

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Nick David Wright
s.com/ - Original Message > From: Paul Stenquist > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:08:18 AM > Subject: Re: light meters > > For all but the most difficult subjects, you can use the spotmeter on a > Pentax > digital to determine z

Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
- Original Message From: Bob W To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18:06 PM Subject: RE: light meters Shooting digitally (more accurately, shooting raw) changes the way you meter. Whenever you use a reflected meter you have to deal with the fact that n

Re: Re: light meters

2009-02-26 Thread Jens
I find metering very easy. I do bracketing - mostly three shots, when working with my K20 of K10. I don't have time for guessing and experimenting a lot. I often use TvA program for shooting in varied light conditions. I set the shutter to perhaps 1/250 and the aperture to F:8. Then i simply con

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:26:13PM -0800, Nick David Wright wrote: # # But then we are talking about hand-held meters here which definitely require a look away from the finder. ;) Perhaps not if your lens focuses close enough, or you have really long arms. -- Photographs are like sentences,

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: light meters Err...that should read +1 stop. Or a serious suntan. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: > > I personally really hate that process. Shoot, chimp, shoot, chimp. I like to > just be able to shoot and know that the photo was exposed the way I wanted it. > > That's one of the myriad reasons I was so anxious to switch back to Pent

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread David Savage
Err...that should read +1 stop. Cheers, Dave 2009/2/26 David Savage : > I just spot meter off the back of my hand & dial it down -1 stop which > gets me pretty close to 18% grey. > > As for a meter recommendation the L-308 meters are relatively cheap, > easy to use. > > Cheers, > > Dave -- PDML

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Nick David Wright
we are talking about hand-held meters here which definitely require a look away from the finder. ;) ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message > From: Bob W > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18:06 PM &g

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread David Savage
I just spot meter off the back of my hand & dial it down -1 stop which gets me pretty close to 18% grey. As for a meter recommendation the L-308 meters are relatively cheap, easy to use. Cheers, Dave However, depending on how much time I've spent in the sun affects the calibration somewhat :-)

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Cesar, I have a Gossen Luna Pro Digital meter that I used all the time. The issue becomes, however, how best to expose for the camera or film in question. When shooting film, the light meter works well. But when shooting digital, a histogram works much better because it shows you how the

RE: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Bob W
> > I personally really hate that process. Shoot, chimp, shoot, > chimp. I like to just be able to shoot and know that the > photo was exposed the way I wanted it. > > That's one of the myriad reasons I was so anxious to switch > back to Pentax, in my experience with the cameras in the past >

histograms (was: Re: light meters)

2009-02-25 Thread Nick David Wright
vid Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message > From: Cesar Matamoros II > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:35:54 PM > Subject: Re: light meters > > Larry Colen wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 03:30:

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Nick David Wright
asty old gear-headedness poking its head up again. ;) ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message > From: Larry Colen > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:17:03 PM > Subject: Re: light meters > > On Wed, F

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 03:30:57PM -0800, Nick David Wright wrote: # # I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simp

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've seen some that do no

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Christian
Nick David Wright wrote: I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 03:30:57PM -0800, Nick David Wright wrote: # # I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Bob W" I have also had an L-208, which is extremely small and light, but I wasn't happy with the readings it gave me - they tended towards underexposure I've had this problem with the L-208 as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Nick David Wright" Subject: light meters I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd l

Re: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
Nick, Yes, Sekonic L-398 probably fits your need. http://www.sekonic.com/products/Sekonic%20L-398A%20STUDIO%20DELUXE%20III.asp On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: > > I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near > future. But I'm not really sur

RE: light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Bob W
et [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of Nick David Wright > Sent: 25 February 2009 23:31 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: light meters > > > I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime > in the near future. But I'm not really sure whic

light meters

2009-02-25 Thread Nick David Wright
I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've seen some that do not req

Re: Incident light meters

2008-02-04 Thread David Savage
Another vote for the Sekonic L-308 relatively cheap & very simple to use. Cheers, Dave On Feb 4, 2008 3:27 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gang, > > My old Minolta Pro light meter died a grisly, high speed death a few > months back and I've been without a hand held meter ever

Re: Incident light meters

2008-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: Incident light meters > > > I have the Minolta IV F. Not sure what the prices are these days, but > its a good meter. Does flash meter to. > I have a Minolta 3F, and also a Gossen Lunasix of some sort. B

Re: Incident light meters

2008-02-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Feb 3, 2008 1:27 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gang, > > My old Minolta Pro light meter died a grisly, high speed death a few > months back and I've been without a hand held meter ever since. > Recommendations for another incident light meter would be much > appreciated. No

Re: Incident light meters

2008-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I use a Sekonic L328 FlashMate. Have had it for years, I'm sure it's been superceded now. Very effective, reasonably priced, accurate. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link dire

RE: Incident light meters

2008-02-03 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Scott Loveless > Sent: 03 February 2008 18:28 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Incident light meters > > Hi gang, > > My old Minolta Pro light meter died a grisly, high s

Re: Incident light meters

2008-02-03 Thread Beaker
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/257033-REG/ Gossen_GO4006_Digisix_Ultra_Compact_Lightmeter.html I have it's bigger brother- the Gossen Digiflash. It adds a flash meter. It was only a little more expensive than the Digisix when I bought it. Now they are both way more expensive... It is a ni

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