Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same
thing would be true for a flagship Pentax. Pentax will never recover the
RD costs, let alone make a profit, on a hot snot film SLR. The whole film
SLR market is shrinking due to digital. It will go from single digit to
That was 1985. Only Herb Keppler and Goobers care what Minolta does now.
I doubt it.
regards,
Alan Chan
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Herb,
Resolution test done with real film indicate the performance of the
film
and lens combination. The actual resolution of the lens is much higher than
indicated in a simple test.
The relation ship is
1/final resolution = 1/film
Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The future existance of film based cameras might be debateble, but I always
thought good lenses were important. I know Photoshop can do wonders, but no
amount of sharpening can replace high resolution lenses. Am I missing
something?
I don't think so. We
I seem to remember seeing somewhere that Minolta sells more SLR's than
Pentax. Of course, Minolta does advertize.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/02 05:08AM
That was 1985. Only Herb Keppler and Goobers care what Minolta does
now.
I doubt it.
regards,
Alan Chan
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on Pentax
exposition :-(
http://www.ausstellerliste-koelnmesse.de/besuchsplanung/index.php?CLSID={3d7
5c7b3e03ec-15-50586}
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
sigh
same old news, then.
Strange, though, that Single Lens Reflex Cameras is listed
twice...
Jostein
-- Original Message --
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on
Pentax
exposition
- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting list!
Lenses for large and medium format cameras!
Schniender/Rodenstock - take notice!
Bob
Oh, it really does not list and new items.
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:47:17 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on Pentax
exposition :-(
http://www.ausstellerliste-koelnmesse.de/besuchsplanung/index.php?CLSID={3d7
5c7b3e03ec-15-50586}
--
Best
OK guys and gals, go shoot some Kodachrome, get it developed, and look at it
on the light table. You will all feel better as you wait to see what Pentax
has up it's sleeve.
Robert
Remember, Canon and Nikon lose money on their digital cameras(how the heck
do they stay in business anyway??).
)
Cheers,
Dave
Original Message:
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From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:18:23 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Touble is, with digital cameras the bugs don't get ironed out completely
- you get a replacement
Doug,
Neither do I.. :)
You'll note I said I would wait until AFTER Photokina :)
Cheers,
Dave
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From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:53:36 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
You know, I make all
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on Pentax
exposition :-(
http://www.ausstellerliste-koelnmesse.de/besuchsplanung/index.php?CLSID={3d7
5c7b3e03ec-15-50586}
Poppycock. There's nothing on that list that tells me that a DSLR will
not be shown.
Cotty
At 10:46 AM 9/4/02 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
THE FUTURE IS DIGITAL.
...
I still feel somebody is going to come up
with a full frame sensor which will retrofit
to existing film SLRs, especially once the
full frame sensors get cheap enuff. Maybe
not if DSLR bodies get cheap enuff real
fast.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Nosal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
At 10:46 AM 9/4/02 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
THE FUTURE IS DIGITAL.
...
I still feel somebody
optic
guided buggy whips.
BR
(Doug, you gotta fix the Digests!)
-Original Message-
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Photokina pages were updated
Doesn't Pentax lose money every year lately?
- Original Message -
From: Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
OK guys and gals, go shoot some Kodachrome, get it developed
Volume.
Actually, Canon does make money selling cameras:
http://www.photointer.com/pageset/page16.html
Camera segment sales were ¥211,392 million, up 20.8%. Silver-based photographic
cameras are cited as continuing to decrease due to market tilt toward digital cameras
and low pricing of
]: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
OK guys and gals, go shoot some Kodachrome, get it
developed, and look at
it
on the light table. You will all feel better as
you wait to see what
Pentax
has up it's sleeve.
Robert
Remember, Canon and Nikon lose money on their
digital cameras(how
I guess I wasn't being clear about this.
I'm definitely not saying that Pentax needs a DSLR to stay in business.
I'm saying that my fear is that Pentax might have so much financial
trouble (for any reason) that they will go the Olympus route and stop
producing their better cameras, especially
Pentax may have thought that it will not save them and
decided not to release their pj-1
--- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would such a camera
save Pentax. I
have no clue. It certainly didn't help Minolta that
much.
Dick wrote:
Didn't anyone read the repeat of Herb Keppler's article on Photokina here
yesterday? He explains very specifically why Pentax and Minolta are not in
the digital SLR game.
But Keppler is wrong. There are more Pentax lenses out there than Canon EF lenses.
Pål
Sylwester wrote:
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on Pentax
exposition :-(
Huh
Why not wait until Photokina and see whats being showed?
The web page you mention has never been a preview for whats being shown. Pentax won't
disclose anything until they release
JCO wrote:
They
didnt go AE till the ES, years after others had it.
Huh??
The ES was the worlds first camera with electronic shutter and the first with aperture
priority auto.
Pal
Ryan wrote:
Doesn't Pentax lose money every year lately?
Almost nothing comparisons to the market leaders in digital.
Pål
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Subject: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Photokina pages were updated, and it seems there is no D-SLR on
Pentax
exposition :-(
http://www.ausstellerliste-koelnmesse.de/besuchsplanung/index.
php?CLSID={3d7
5c7b3e03ec-15-50586}
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
, 2002 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
JCO wrote:
They
didnt go AE till the ES, years after others had it.
Huh??
The ES was the worlds first camera with electronic shutter and
the first with aperture priority auto.
Pal
Plus, how many pros would buy a yellow camera :-)
No good. Doesn't have a metal lens mount . . .
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/02 12:41PM
Really?
I hear Nikon will have a fifty-foot high F5 carved out of cheese,
despite the objections of neighbouring standholders.
--
Kristian
Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quote from Herb Keppler's article :
In other words, unlike film, the bigger sensor area does not necessarily
produce needed higher resolution.
Just what has he been smoking?
Man, he's gonna get a *lot* of mail on that gaffe!
(But think of all the money
Steve wrote:
I'm definitely not saying that Pentax needs a DSLR to stay in business.
I'm saying that my fear is that Pentax might have so much financial
trouble (for any reason) that they will go the Olympus route and stop
producing their better cameras, especially the 35 mm variety. I
JCO wrote:
Other SLR makers most notably Konica had AE
(shutter priority) via automatic aperture setting lenses
around 5 years before the Pentax ES.
aperture priority isnt the only way to get AE.
But only Konica nd Canon bothered with this kind of auto. Most other manufacturers
like
Bruce wrote:
Are these, like, every lens ever made, catalog entries, or real (you can buy) AF
lenses in current production?
I'm talking production numbers. Not exclusively AF lenses. I find the idea of a
digital slr that take 70's or 80's lenses, in addition to current ones, to be a sound
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quote from Herb Keppler's article :
In other words, unlike film, the bigger sensor area does not necessarily
produce needed higher resolution.
Just what has he been smoking?
Man, he's gonna get a *lot* of mail on that gaffe!
nothing because
Subject: Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Plus, how many pros would buy a yellow camera :-)
No good. Doesn't have a metal lens mount . . .
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/02 12:41PM
Really?
I hear Nikon will have a fifty-foot high F5
carved out of cheese,
despite
Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same thing would
be true for a flagship Pentax. Pentax will never recover the RD costs, let alone
make a profit, on a hot snot film SLR. The whole film SLR market is shrinking due to
digital. It will go from single digit to
...if those were only legal in my state...
Anyone trying to make a case for Pentax coming out
with a new high end body and line of lenses is a
strong candidate for psychotropic drugs.
Move to Nevada. It looks like they're getting close . . .
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/02 04:05PM
...if those were only legal in my state...
Anyone
the leaders in that area.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
JCO wrote:
Other SLR makers most notably Konica had AE
(shutter priority) via
You know, I think the 50 ft F5 of cheese has the makings of acrhetype,
at least for Pentaxians. I think Kristian gets the credit. Jung would
have been proud. . . .
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
Bruce wrote:
Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same thing
would be true for a flagship Pentax.
But Minolta had huge sucess with their 7000 in spite of being a Minolta.
Pentax will never recover the RD costs, let alone make a profit, on a hot snot film
JCO wrote:
Zero impact? I disagree, if you wanted AE in the 1960's
SLR, Pentax couldnt deliver.
I think my point was that hardly anyone wanted AE in the 60's. Particularly not in
that form..
Pål
Hi, Dave,
You just go sell your LX along with your k-mount lenses. You just go whole hog
into a C or N digital system.
Just lemme know what you're selling before you post on the list. Remember how I
didn't haggle on the CL? And, you won't have to find boxes to pack stuff in and
get
Hi, Pal,
The Yashica Electro 35 had an aperture priority electronic shutter. When did they
come out, around
1968? Maybe earlier. I'm quite certain that they preceded the ES. Of course, they
were rangefinders,
so the ES would be the first aperture priority SLR with an electronic shutter,
: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Hi, Dave,
You just go sell your LX along with your k-mount lenses. You just go whole
hog
into a C or N digital system.
Just lemme know what you're selling before you post on the list. Remember
how I
didn't haggle on the CL? And, you won't have to find boxes
Hey, Dave,
You obviously missed my point. I wanted you to offer them to ~me~ before the
list!
I'm thinking Viv 19mm, SMC 1.4 50mm, and the LX body...
g
-frank
David Chang-Sang wrote:
Not to worry Frank..
everything (if I decide to go that route) will be offered list wide first
before
Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quote from Herb Keppler's article :
In other words, unlike film, the bigger sensor area does not necessarily
produce needed higher resolution.
Just what has he been smoking?
Man, he's gonna get a *lot* of
Not a gaffe. Think a little more...
Regards,
Bob...
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quote from Herb Keppler's article :
In other words, unlike film, the bigger sensor area does not necessarily
produce needed higher resolution.
Just what
give us a clue?
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Herb Keppler's article (Re[2]: No Pentax D-SLR on
Photokina?)
Not a gaffe. Think a little more...
Regards,
Bob...
From: Mark
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